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16 December 2018, 09:57 AM | #1 |
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Suddenly concerned with my 3 year old Sub
So I’ve had this 116610LN for almost 3 years now that I got as a gift. I’ve since gotten a few others, including the LV. I never once suspected this could be fake, but I’m suddenly concerned about the rehaut. It doesn’t seem to perfectly align with the second markers the way the LV does. Not only that, but the rehaut and dial font is slightly different than the LV but I do think that’s normal since they make slight changes to them with no mention.
Does this look suspicious at all? The last pic is the LV. IMG_0114.jpgIMG_0115.jpgIMG_0113.jpgIMG_0112.jpgIMG_0116.jpg |
16 December 2018, 10:10 AM | #2 |
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I can add my 2 cents by saying that warranty card looks good. It's glossy, has the right font and size. Would be interesting to see a front under the UV.
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16 December 2018, 10:12 AM | #3 |
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The LV doesn't seem to align perfectly either according to the pics.
Is the weight the same ? Do they wind the same, does the second hand sweep the same as the LV? |
16 December 2018, 10:26 AM | #4 |
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I’d have to see other Sub alignment . My Milgauss letters align perfectly with each tic and the serial aligns perfectly between tics.
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likely just the pictures but the rehaut on the black sub (first pic) does not appear quite the same as the lv to me, aside from the misalignment it looks a bit bolder and heavier?
otherwise looks good.
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Call Gundersons and see if they sold the watch 3 years ago.
Do you see the laser etched crown at 6 o'clock? |
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I suggest some clear pics of the front of watch showing the crown guards, the Date font and how the crown on the rehaut lines up.
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16 December 2018, 11:12 AM | #8 |
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Please post clear pics showing more of the watch. Dial fonts of hulk vs. black Sub are known to be different, also the R O L E X engraving on the rehaut went through a change.
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Gunderson's is very reputable. I know them well. They are a small AD in Iowa that has a couple other stores in Sioux Falls and Omaha.
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16 December 2018, 11:37 AM | #10 |
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Looks real to me but I'm no expert. I do own a sub, though.
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17 December 2018, 01:28 AM | #11 |
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Rehaut alignment on Subs and GMTs is all over the map. There are dozens of threads on this in the Rolex General Discussion forum. Also, as you said, there have been changes to the font of the rehaut text. So if that's the only issue, you have nothing to worry about.
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17 December 2018, 03:31 AM | #13 |
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Pictures are useless to confirm or deny.
Need photo of movement or engraving between lug at 12 o clock
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I would say the pics are useless because they are not straight on.
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18 December 2018, 05:55 AM | #19 |
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I didn't take it anywhere or call Gunderson's. I think this was just me overreacting and not realizing the rehaut or dial being slightly off is not that uncommon. I've worked with and bought and sold Rolex for years now at a jewelry store and have always hit on real vs fake. I think this was more of a weird brain fart by me.
However, if I call Gunderson's, they would be open to giving me info on this piece? |
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Get photos of the movement or writing between lugs and then a proper decision can be made and not speculation A
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So I’m guessing you didn’t buy the 3 y. o. Sub from an AD? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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18 December 2018, 01:16 PM | #24 |
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Take a straight on picture like this. This sub is from DsvidSW site for sale so it’s confirmed authentic.
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Is it me or does the coronet on the rehaut look off on the DavidSW photo but the "R" and 9 o'clock is spot on? I know the rehauts don't always line up but I thought it if it was off, it'd be off all the way around. Maybe just a lens distortion.
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I guess a fix for this is to adjust the dial feel so the dial clocks round slightly. I’d imagine that’s where the discrepancy lies in this type of thing as there must be more variables from the dial to movement fit than the case etching. Biggest mistake Rolex made was trying to make it line up in the first place. They’d have been better off spacing them out more and just letting it fall randomly. |
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And to the original poster, that's a bummer you are questioning your watch after 3 years, but on a side note, if its still keeping time after 3 years, its probably genuine. I'm guessing even the good looking fakes don't have a precision movement that will hold up for a couple years without failing. |
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Whatever misalignment there may be, it seem to me that it is within normal limits.
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23 December 2018, 10:27 AM | #30 |
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There should be NO misalignment - nor if it exists be corrected by moving anything. The "REHAUT" is a fixed part of the case, and you can not move the movement (dial)
How these rare pieces slip by ROLEX, I got NO idea - maybe fake cases? Really I got no idea. But it "should" be spot on Adam
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