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cajunron · 6 October 2012, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hsfrank

Actually, while I posted that mainly as a joke, I do not believe that threats or intimidation is a very effective method .

Whether or not it was a joke, I am sure you had good intentions. That was an honorable thing to do, and I for one appreciate it. Good to know someone is looking out.

BOA · 6 October 2012, 10:57 AM

Regarding two pictures in this thread, the second one linked, the first strikes me as a boob job; the second some boob without a job.

ba dum ching

Knappo 1307 · 7 October 2012, 02:02 AM

Any updates? Did you get the watch back?

RRsDJ · 7 October 2012, 12:35 PM

If you get the watch back tell Paypal she sent you a rock. ;)

Seriously, I hope they side in your favor but as others have said they usually always side with the buyer. This is why I'd never sell anything more than a couple hundred dollars on eBay. Theres way too many scammers out there nowadays!!

Good luck OP!

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pknopp · 7 October 2012, 03:56 PM

Robert,

It will do no good refusing the package. I'm not a watch expert but I have been buying and selling on eBay for 12.5 years.

Once she shows that you refused the package Paypal will grant her the refund. She is obviously reading here so I will refrain from making suggestions here. Having sold on eBay for 12.5 years though as a general thing I have become very well aquinted with the ladies at the Post Office. Ebay wants you to do all shipping through them. Buy your postage and what have you. Not me. If I have an item that is more than I'm willing to lose it goes to the Post Office and I have one of the ladies watch me pack it and box it.

I then hand it to her. They will take their Priority Tape and tape it up for you. If I know someone is sending something back, I tell them to hold it and I open it in front of them.

I have a real asset in pursueing Postal Fraud then. You are far more likely to get things resolved this way than through the authorities for reasons I could explain in a PM. There are other ways, but again, not on the forums.

eBay/Paypal cares less about your proof. Their policies encourage fraud.

Lgear080 · 7 October 2012, 08:39 PM

This is prime for reddit. I find this particular fraud requires
A larger audience. I'm sure the perp won't appreciate the
Interest she'll surely receive. I'd give that a shot. In the back
Of my mind I think you may have some identity theft going
On in concert. Has anyone visited the physical address used
For shipping?

StreetGlide · 8 October 2012, 04:53 PM

I certainly hope this works out in your favor. It is so discouraging to learn that EBay / PayPal frequently sides with the buyers.

I have been considering selling my watch on EBay for some time now but now I think not.

mastermixer · 9 October 2012, 03:02 AM

Hey Guys,

I will update you guys more as soon as I can. I have filed a police report, I also have in my opinion overwhelming evidence and I have been told if the person continues they can go after the person for Fraud.

Ditch · 9 October 2012, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastermixer

Hey Guys,

I will update you guys more as soon as I can. I have filed a police report, I also have in my opinion overwhelming evidence and I have been told if the person continues they can go after the person for Fraud.

Like

Good luck!

Pattyrn · 9 October 2012, 08:17 AM

This sounds more like a federal issue. Since it went across state
Lines. FTC or something like that. If this person is trying to scam you out
Of 5k imagine what she has tried to do to others as well. You are probably
Not her first.

jolimont · 9 October 2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastermixer

Hey Guys,

I will update you guys more as soon as I can. I have filed a police report, I also have in my opinion overwhelming evidence and I have been told if the person continues they can go after the person for Fraud.

good to hear, hope the right thing gets done by you

caryyee · 9 October 2012, 09:46 AM

Keep us in the loop, it may be a bit of a drawn out process though ...

vintagewaferthin · 9 October 2012, 10:24 AM

please keep us updated on this Robert. really hope that this works out for you.

RolexPete32 · 9 October 2012, 12:12 PM

Wow keep us in the loop. Good work everyone. I blocked her on FB. I also agree you can park a small suv between that. AUGH! yuck bad set.

RolexPete32 · 9 October 2012, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hsfrank

Be careful with your threats.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...size=604%2C453
This guy is presumably her husband

I wanted to block him too but it seems he took his account down. OH well

PcarSBA · 9 October 2012, 12:29 PM

My logic: Someone earlier wrote it's a classic case of "he said, she said" and nailed it.

By the end of the day this isn't an oversight from Robert or her but one or the other side has deliberately pulled off a nasty scam. This got me thinking why (motive). Then it clicked: False sense of entitlement. Yup, guilty as charged. She did it again and it is her false sense of entitlement !!! First the fake headlights and now a timepiece she can't afford. Tsk.

Seriously, I hope someone nails her and this works out for you Robert. Good luck.

MoBe · 9 October 2012, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexPete32

I wanted to block him too but it seems he took his account down. OH well

Maybe because he`s in on the scam?

RolexPete32 · 9 October 2012, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoBe

Maybe because he`s in on the scam?

Could be. He sure knows about it becuase he saw this thread/his account posted here then closed his FB account. So he is either supprised with the actions of his other half in which case I am not sure why she told him? Or he is aware that this is going on which is more likley given his quick closing of his account.

BTW: This whole I am calling my law office on everybody business makes me laugh. It really speaks to who we are dealing with. What an example to set for childern. This theard will live forever on the internet. One day soon the kid will google his/her mom and this will come up on the internet search.

Johny · 9 October 2012, 09:13 PM

i'm beginning to think that perhaps she has made a mistake and that by accident she has mixed up the contents of two different packages.

Ditch · 9 October 2012, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

i'm beginning to think that perhaps she has made a mistake and that by accident she has mixed up the contents of two different packages.

If she's reading, I'd definitely recommend that she take that 'approach'. Say sorry for 'accidently' mixing up two watches. Return the real watch to correct her 'mistake', thereby doing the right thing by the seller and perhaps he will drop the highly compelling case against her.

wmoore · 9 October 2012, 10:41 PM

I bought my first Rolex from Robert and he made the process easy and I received more than I expected, as a total neophyte, I would have been easy prey if that was Robert's game, which it is NOT.
Good luck and I hope it all works out in your favor and the scammers get what they deserve.

subtona · 10 October 2012, 12:47 AM

still ongoing.... hope it works out soon.

Knappo 1307 · 10 October 2012, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

i'm beginning to think that perhaps she has made a mistake and that by accident she has mixed up the contents of two different packages.

This

...... I think for her sake, since she is monitoring the thread, this would be in her best interest..

beetleything · 10 October 2012, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexPete32

Could be. He sure knows about it becuase he saw this thread/his account posted here then closed his FB account. So he is either supprised with the actions of his other half in which case I am not sure why she told him? Or he is aware that this is going on which is more likley given his quick closing of his account.

BTW: This whole I am calling my law office on everybody business makes me laugh. It really speaks to who we are dealing with. What an example to set for childern. This theard will live forever on the internet. One day soon the kid will google his/her mom and this will come up on the internet search.

BINGO.

Internet = powerful tool!

Most people now - employers - interested parties etc - check people or businesses out on the internet.

Johny · 11 October 2012, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

i'm beginning to think that perhaps she has made a mistake and that by accident she has mixed up the contents of two different packages.

it's an easy thing to occur. you open both parcels then you get distracted by the kids and things get mixed up etc etc. happens all the time. honest mistake, easily sorted.

Kringkily · 12 October 2012, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

it's an easy thing to occur. you open both parcels then you get distracted by the kids and things get mixed up etc etc. happens all the time. honest mistake, easily sorted.

I don't think you confuse a 5 thousand dollar REAL watch with a fake one especially when you are going to file a claim.....

Be like you filing an insurance claim for your 10k diamond bracelet only to realize it was actually the other CZ one......

MrTito · 12 October 2012, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kringkily

I don't think you confuse a 5 thousand dollar REAL watch with a fake one especially when you are going to file a claim.....

Be like you filing an insurance claim for your 10k diamond bracelet only to realize it was actually the other CZ one......

Think you've missed the point there chap

Johny · 12 October 2012, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTito

Think you've missed the point there chap

PcarSBA · 12 October 2012, 02:41 AM

...trying to get toothpaste back into the tube, once it's out it's hard but hey...

John's trying to map out a path.....

Knappo 1307 · 12 October 2012, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

x2....

9 October 2012, 09:13 PM	#109
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	i'm beginning to think that perhaps she has made a mistake and that by accident she has mixed up the contents of two different packages. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

9 October 2012, 10:41 PM	#111
wmoore "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Wayne Location: Nova Scotia Watch: 116263, 79280 Posts: 255	Robert is a true gentleman I bought my first Rolex from Robert and he made the process easy and I received more than I expected, as a total neophyte, I would have been easy prey if that was Robert's game, which it is NOT. Good luck and I hope it all works out in your favor and the scammers get what they deserve.

10 October 2012, 12:47 AM	#112
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,995	still ongoing.... hope it works out soon. __________________

6 October 2012, 10:57 AM	#92
BOA "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Bruce Location: Chicago, IL Watch: Meteorite DD Posts: 2,159	Regarding two pictures in this thread, the second one linked, the first strikes me as a boob job; the second some boob without a job. ba dum ching

7 October 2012, 02:02 AM	#93
Knappo 1307 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,557	Any updates? Did you get the watch back?

7 October 2012, 12:35 PM	#94
RRsDJ Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Watch: 16078 / 16618 Posts: 434	If you get the watch back tell Paypal she sent you a rock. ;) Seriously, I hope they side in your favor but as others have said they usually always side with the buyer. This is why I'd never sell anything more than a couple hundred dollars on eBay. Theres way too many scammers out there nowadays!! Good luck OP! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 October 2012, 03:56 PM	#95
pknopp Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: WV Posts: 50	Robert, It will do no good refusing the package. I'm not a watch expert but I have been buying and selling on eBay for 12.5 years. Once she shows that you refused the package Paypal will grant her the refund. She is obviously reading here so I will refrain from making suggestions here. Having sold on eBay for 12.5 years though as a general thing I have become very well aquinted with the ladies at the Post Office. Ebay wants you to do all shipping through them. Buy your postage and what have you. Not me. If I have an item that is more than I'm willing to lose it goes to the Post Office and I have one of the ladies watch me pack it and box it. I then hand it to her. They will take their Priority Tape and tape it up for you. If I know someone is sending something back, I tell them to hold it and I open it in front of them. I have a real asset in pursueing Postal Fraud then. You are far more likely to get things resolved this way than through the authorities for reasons I could explain in a PM. There are other ways, but again, not on the forums. eBay/Paypal cares less about your proof. Their policies encourage fraud.

7 October 2012, 08:39 PM	#96
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	This is prime for reddit. I find this particular fraud requires A larger audience. I'm sure the perp won't appreciate the Interest she'll surely receive. I'd give that a shot. In the back Of my mind I think you may have some identity theft going On in concert. Has anyone visited the physical address used For shipping?

8 October 2012, 04:53 PM	#97
StreetGlide Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Watch: Oysterquartz 19018 Posts: 16	I certainly hope this works out in your favor. It is so discouraging to learn that EBay / PayPal frequently sides with the buyers. I have been considering selling my watch on EBay for some time now but now I think not.

9 October 2012, 03:02 AM	#98
mastermixer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Michael Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,474	Hey Guys, I will update you guys more as soon as I can. I have filed a police report, I also have in my opinion overwhelming evidence and I have been told if the person continues they can go after the person for Fraud.

9 October 2012, 08:17 AM	#100
Pattyrn "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: USA Posts: 6	This sounds more like a federal issue. Since it went across state Lines. FTC or something like that. If this person is trying to scam you out Of 5k imagine what she has tried to do to others as well. You are probably Not her first.

9 October 2012, 09:46 AM	#102
caryyee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: A Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,180	Keep us in the loop, it may be a bit of a drawn out process though ...

9 October 2012, 10:24 AM	#103
vintagewaferthin "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth Watch: Air-King 5500 Posts: 2,609	please keep us updated on this Robert. really hope that this works out for you.

9 October 2012, 12:12 PM	#104
RolexPete32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Canada Watch: You know... Rolex Posts: 1,520	Wow keep us in the loop. Good work everyone. I blocked her on FB. I also agree you can park a small suv between that. AUGH! yuck bad set.

9 October 2012, 12:29 PM	#106
PcarSBA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Santa Barbara Watch: IWC, Jaeger, Rolex Posts: 123	My logic: Someone earlier wrote it's a classic case of "he said, she said" and nailed it. By the end of the day this isn't an oversight from Robert or her but one or the other side has deliberately pulled off a nasty scam. This got me thinking why (motive). Then it clicked: False sense of entitlement. Yup, guilty as charged. She did it again and it is her false sense of entitlement !!! First the fake headlights and now a timepiece she can't afford. Tsk. Seriously, I hope someone nails her and this works out for you Robert. Good luck.

12 October 2012, 02:41 AM	#119
PcarSBA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Santa Barbara Watch: IWC, Jaeger, Rolex Posts: 123	...trying to get toothpaste back into the tube, once it's out it's hard but hey... John's trying to map out a path.....

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