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Old 3 October 2023, 07:36 PM   #1
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Icon20 Rolex 1625 Dial

I had posted about my Rolex with a repainted dial some time ago and from the information and word around, it seems that these dials are quite difficult to find.

My watchmaker was able to find a compatible dial for it. (looks a lot like 1601/1603 dial)

However,
- I have not seen any 1625 around with this color dial and golden makers combo.
- An experienced resource here told me that it will not fit.
- From the looks of it it doesn't seem that anything has been tampered with or re done except for the logo.

Tried separately, the dial fits in the case and the movement properly.

Any opinions or anything I should be looking out for?
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Old 3 October 2023, 07:55 PM   #2
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A 1625 is basically a 1603 with a rotating bezel instead of fixed bezel.
Authentic 1600 series datejust dials will fit since they are for the same 1570 cal movement and 1600 series case.
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Old 3 October 2023, 09:19 PM   #3
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There is so much conflicting information, Thanks for clarifying.

So technically it will be a franken. Right?

P.S. Looks like a sigma dial.
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Old 4 October 2023, 04:40 AM   #4
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According to my watchmaker the case is slightly different, the 1625 dials are about 0.5mm smaller in diameter than the other 1600-series datejust dials.

If the dial your watchmaker got for you fits, it should be a 1625 dial. Ask him to measure it and compare it to a regular 160X datejust dial.

Here are a couple of recent discussions about it with pictures of a shaved down regular dial fitted to a 1625:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=12846876
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=876320

I sold my 1625 years ago and never measured the dial myself:
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Old 4 October 2023, 05:17 AM   #5
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According to my watchmaker the case is slightly different, the 1625 dials are about 0.5mm smaller in diameter than the other 1600-series datejust dials.

If the dial your watchmaker got for you fits, it should be a 1625 dial. Ask him to measure it and compare it to a regular 160X datejust dial.

Here are a couple of recent discussions about it with pictures of a shaved down regular dial fitted to a 1625:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=12846876
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=876320

I sold my 1625 years ago and never measured the dial myself:
Thanks for the link to this.

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For any one else who is interested in knowing the answer in the future.
The 1601 Dial is 27.7 - 27.8 mm diameter.
The 1625 Dial is 27.2 mm diameter.

Sadly no internet seller attached the diameters in his adverts, but a friendly collector did the meassuring for me.

Thanks to watchcrank for his help.
So in the end there’s a small difference in dial size on 1600 series vs 1625 TOG dials.
Nice one…
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Old 4 October 2023, 06:28 AM   #6
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Watchmaker put the dial in front of me. Right after I checked it for sanding because I had seen the RootBeer post. (its up for sale on chrono 24 for 30k) haha!!

Fits perfectly and no half cut problem. The weird thing is that I my research I only came across slate dials for 1601 and 1603.

I am happy with the end result, but still curious. :)
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Old 4 October 2023, 07:28 AM   #7
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Dials for the 1625 are smaller than Datejust. A Datejust dial will not fit unless cut down. I had a 1625 with a slate sigma dial with gold markers and print.
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Old 2 February 2024, 05:00 PM   #8
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Hello everyone, I'm sharing this post here as it pertains to the latest discussion on 1625 dials. For those on the lookout for a dial, it's widely acknowledged that they are elusive, and sellers often price them accordingly due to their scarcity. After nearly a year of searching for a silver version with gold markers, but unwilling to pay over $700 for the sole one available on eBay, I decided to delve into understanding the key differences between the 1625 and 1601 dials.

I'll outline the insights I gained that proved instrumental:

Initially, I discovered that in the 1625 dial, the "TSWISST" at the bottom consistently resides between the Tridium "ball" and is in close proximity to the 6 o'clock marker. In contrast, the TSWISST on the 1601 dials is positioned below the ball.
In the 1625 dial, the minute markers are noticeably small and consistently situated very close to the minute markers. Additionally, the majority of 1625 dials feature "stick" markers.
I recommend acquiring various images of confirmed 1625 dials alongside known 1601 dials to meticulously study the differences. Over time, these distinctions become apparent, enabling you to swiftly identify a 1625 dial.

The significant revelation that led me to finally obtain the elusive dial I had been seeking is as follows: Many eBay sellers mislabel dials as 1601 when they are, in reality, 1625. Once you train yourself to recognize them, you'll spot them in the market—I personally identified at least five such instances.

It's a time-consuming process, requiring the scrutiny of hundreds of dials on eBay, but they are indeed out there. I also suggest conducting a worldwide search. Once you find the one you desire, I highly recommend politely asking the seller to measure the dial to confirm its diameter is 27.2 mm; anything larger indicates a 1601.

I hope this information proves helpful to someone.

Happy hunting.
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Old 3 February 2024, 10:59 PM   #9
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Here are two examples to help visualize the differences of a 160x and a 1625:

The bottom pictures belong to a 160x dial - filed down - note the letters cut off at the bottom. Also compare the length of the minute markers to the authentic one on top. The misrepresented dial was sold on Ebay as a 1625 dial, even with a baggie to finish the prop.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40454496982...Bk9SR-rKqe-tYw
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