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28 March 2020, 02:57 AM | #4051 |
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Italy last 24 hours death toll = 919
Total cases = 86,498 Total deaths = 9,134 That's over 11% of mortality for infected people! |
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I just saw that, ouch, devastating death number. I think that's the highest they've had yet. The new cases number seems to have flattened out. I keep hoping to see these numbers improve, but they disappoint every day.
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Please don’t get me wrong. I get your point. And it’s horrifying. Just trying to find whatever positivity we can. Either way it’s terrible. But likely better for all of us if we don’t go down the road of negativity. Positive can keep our immune systems strong. True story.
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28 March 2020, 03:11 AM | #4056 |
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I don't know myself, I keep asking myself the same thing. Their numbers were improving for a few days, looked hopeful and then this. Suffering is the right word. Absolutely tragic.
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Here's a video from an MD in Madrid, Spain, playing a recording of a statement from another MD in Madrid, who asked that this message get out to the public. It was posted on a retired UK nurse's YouTube channel, Dr. John Campbell. It is sobering and sometimes profane.
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28 March 2020, 03:15 AM | #4058 |
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Italy- their actual cases are much higher than their documented cases. They know it. Getting the case count right is a job for down the road, after people stop dying on gurneys in the hospital hallway. I am ashamed that the US isn’t prepared to help them in any material way. Dark days.
Spain- pretty bad there, too. How is Switzerland holding up? I saw that they are another nation that isn’t testing those with mild symptoms. |
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My understanding Italy has a relatively older population, more smokers and extended families relative (no pun intended) to the states.
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When comparing mortality rates of Covid-19 to influenza, the argument is frequently made that not every case of Coronavirus is known because not every ill person is tested. Thus, we don't know the denominator in the mortality fraction. However, the same applies to influenza. Millions of people sit at home with influenza and are never tested because they know they have "the flu." The true denominator for flu is just as nebulous as for Covid.
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-Industrial North has a very high cost of living, skewing population towards elderly or seniors that are generally more wealthy able to afford living costs. Large portion of global workers as well in industry that travel quite frequently. I'm also not convinced the air quality isn't fairly poor when comparing pollution images from satellites and changes since shutdown. -From a society perspective, the high cost of living has generally resulted in many more multi-generation households compared to some other countries. It's not uncommon for 3 generations to be living under the same roof. Shows the importance of not being carriers for those more vulnerable. -Huge tourism industry that has a very high global travel rate. Venice really is a town of just tourists nowadays to be honest as an example. Milan, Florence, Torino, Rome are all high turnover in terms of travelers and also restaurant and accommodation industries. -Generally higher proportion of adults that smoke cigarettes (especially older generations), that increase complications potentially from a respiratory illness. Hoping they are able to turn the corner, and recovery. |
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A good interview with Dr. Fauci (Daily Show). Regardless of how you feel about the Daily Show bias, Trevor Noah asks unbiased and informative questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A3jiM2FNR8 |
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The weather conditions from 50N L to 30N L are an absolute tinderbox for virus transmissions. Cool temps with low humidity. Most of the Conus lies between these latitudes. Spain, N Italy...NYC, Iran...etc All the hotspots are in this zone...there are clearly a lot more cities in there that won’t consistently warm up for another 8weeks or so. Watchout. New Orleans and Florida would organically be in better shape, but the influx of tourists for Mardi Gras and Spring Break screwed it up. But it’s getting hot in Florida so let’s see what happens. Not seeing wildfire spread in Mexico and Latin America...yet, so maybe the heat is helping interfere with transmission? Mother nature’s coming summer fever in the norther hemisphere might be what it takes to put this down for long enough for us to prepare for wave 2. |
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The mortality rate is completely skewed because it’s based on people who have actually been officially tested as positive. Of course every person who has died has probably counted to the official death number. I personally know several people who have the symptoms but are just staying home and riding it out so they will not count to the official infected number and therefore the real mortality rate must be way lower than the official number.
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Yes, I have seen that the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), counting all who arenindected (most of whom are not being counted) May be .3%, still much higher than the flu, but not 2-4%.
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Finger prick antigen test to be rolled out for front line NHS workers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52070199 This is good news, not so much from a selfish perspective, but firstly because the staff at my GP practice are utterly terrified (and needlessly so, for the most part, I think). I rather suspect many of them will be pleasantly surprised to find they’ve already been infected, which in turn will boost morale for the serious uptick in workload I anticipate in the coming weeks. Secondly we might be able to keep most of the doctors and nurses in the building instead of everybody with a cough instantly having to self isolate.
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https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...sis-finds.html
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Every time I hear/see that story, I can’t help but think of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. I hope they can produce reliable results during trials. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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However I understand Public Health England has been undertaking a vigorous process of validation on the tests behind the scenes which is close enough to completion for them to feel confident enough to announce the roll out.
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Yes, I don’t doubt that - I believe they will do it right. The Theranos thought that popped to mind was that her defense case would ironically strengthen if this proves to be effective. Defense attorney can say “See, Elizabeth was just ahead of her time.” But back on topic, each and every innovative outcome from this pandemic moves humankind another step ahead for the future. Thanks for sharing the update. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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I know many of us are dealing with the stress of this pandemic. Some are quarantined, others voluntarily isolating and all of us separated from socializing and hanging out - that which was a normal part of life. Just getting out of the apartment or house for a walk is now a blessing.
Today I had a little revelation that I thought worthy of sharing. I’ve been walking and running in parks for years. But the parks are crowded due to kids out of school and workers furloughed. I went to a different place today and found it virtually empty - peaceful and quiet - my family’s cemetery. I usually go for the reasons many cultures do, and usually every month. So today it was a revelation, as well as a veneration of the family. All their names on granite and marble row upon row. A peaceful walk away from the crowds and bustle of the city. Birds and trees and squirrels and monuments to courage. A quiet stillness on a warm early Summer’s day. Two miles along the paths and roads lifted spirits more than any past visit in this new reality we all share. So maybe that idea is something you might feel warmed by doing - and maybe take a flower or two with you. Have a great weekend wherever you are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Good idea honestly. I went cycling today and man the bike paths were busy. Felt like I was probably riding through clouds of aerosol CV yikes
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That and to go margaritas from the restaurants around me and things are looking up! |
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