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Old 4 November 2016, 10:50 PM   #1
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116500 WD vs ROC SS

Hallo,
I do have the 116500 WD brand new, got an offer to swap my watch +1-2k € for a ROC 26320ST.OO.1220ST.02. White
Not quit sure, maybe sell the Rolex and buy not the latest edition of ROC?
Opinions please

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Old 4 November 2016, 11:42 PM   #2
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ROC = Royal Oak Chrono?
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Old 4 November 2016, 11:48 PM   #3
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Depending on the rest of your collection....I may want to swap a Daytona for an AP.
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Old 4 November 2016, 11:51 PM   #4
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Hallo, yes royal oak chronograph not Offshore!
Collection just a Daytona.
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BTW both are new w/ stickers
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Old 4 November 2016, 11:54 PM   #5
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Not a bad deal financially...though I'd push for a straight swap. I haven't paid much attention to the AP market lately, but I think the ROCs are relatively easy to get for the price of what the NIB white dial 116500s are listing for on secondary market.

If the other party won't do it and you still want the ROC instead, I'd think you could sell the 116500 and put that cash into the ROC.
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Old 5 November 2016, 03:00 AM   #7
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Thank for the response. I do believe the AP has a higher second market price.
Furterhmore, does anyone know what is the better watch in terms of robustness, value (at least staying at the same price), appreciation, horolologicness (AP uses F.P Caliber/ Rolex own) Scratches, Service costs etc. I was able to find a comparison between the AP ROC and the old 116520, so .... what is with the 116500 ?

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Old 5 November 2016, 03:01 AM   #8
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if stickered that daytona is worth 16-17k.

it should be an even swap IMO

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=502649
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Old 5 November 2016, 03:07 AM   #9
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Thank 4 the link. what would you do? keep the rolex or upgrade, prices of rolex d are gonna fall anyways in 1 year, AP prices don't know :)
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Old 5 November 2016, 03:11 AM   #10
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Thank 4 the link. what would you do? keep the rolex or upgrade, prices of rolex d are gonna fall anyways in 1 year, AP prices don't know :)
id call takuya and see if you can work out a deal. if the rolex isnt signing to you cash out your equity. that watch is exactly the one you want.

noticed you are not in us. may be a problemo.
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Old 5 November 2016, 03:14 AM   #11
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there is a slight problem. Iam located in Europe, Austria, Vienna. Therefore iam unable to deal w/ Takuya. Anyways, thanks for letting me know.
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Old 5 November 2016, 03:15 AM   #12
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Its an even swap. So pretty much it comes down to which you want to wear. I would go with the AP ROC.
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Old 5 November 2016, 03:21 AM   #13
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I prefer ROC WD, but in terms of robustness heard rumors every 4 years service, and bezel scratches easily etc. (Anyone experience, is it possible to change the WD to a Blue one)

I am gonna contact the guy maybe he is willing to trade 1:1.
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there is a slight problem. Iam located in Europe, Austria, Vienna. Therefore iam unable to deal w/ Takuya. Anyways, thanks for letting me know.
Then maybe speak to Orologeria Bodoni in Torino....they were great when I dealt with them a few months ago.
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I'd keep the Daytona, more robust and durable and it will hold value better. For an AP chrono I much prefer the 44mm ROO which I def would trade towards.
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The Daytona has got to be more reliable and robust than any AP.
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Old 5 November 2016, 04:13 AM   #18
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Although I don't own a ceramic daytona, I do own a AP15400 and have also tried on the AP Royal Oak Chrono version as well.

I do believe that Rolexes do provide better bang for your buck as they are priced much lower than APs, but in terms of the finishing on the watches, I would say it would be damn hard for Rolex to compete with the unbelievable finishing on the APs.

If I were you, I would take advantage of the hyped up demand of the ceratonas and would trade your watch for an AP chrono. The price for the daytonas are eventually going to fall back to the MSRP in a couple of years, whereas the RO would not.
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Old 5 November 2016, 09:46 AM   #19
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Thank you very much, now its my turn to pull the trigger.

I ll keep you updated.
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Old 5 November 2016, 11:06 AM   #20
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Keep the daytona
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Old 5 November 2016, 11:10 AM   #21
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As nice as the Daytona is, I prefer the ROC.

A couple of years ago I traded my white 116520 for a blue dial ROC and never looked back.
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Old 5 November 2016, 11:18 AM   #22
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AP ROC for sure. Good luck.
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Old 5 November 2016, 02:02 PM   #23
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Seems like the 116500 is losing average 1k a month premium, I think once holidays are out of the way and Basel on the horizon, Rolex seems to be ramping up production on these& all these lists with 2 year waits will quickly accelerate to the inevitable price of MSRP, so the people on lists which I'm quite sure is 80% flippers will pass when they get the call because from a profit they will be looking at a loss. My is around March the 500 will be more available and at MSRP. So if you want to maximize your trade I would do it know familiar with other watch companies and availability but this probably
to do that transaction from a financially standpoint if you want it.

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Old 6 November 2016, 07:34 AM   #24
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k cheers mate, appreciate your opinions. Seller is already contacted, Does anyone here has a good relationship with AP? cuz i want the Boutique exclusive Dial :)
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