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Hwkaholic · 6 February 2017, 06:07 AM

Hello. I know I am new to TRF, but I am on he hunt to join the community on a more regular basis. I have been on "that other forum" for quite a while and have an excellent reputation over there. I have never owned a Rolex but am currently on the hunt to own my first. I have owned Omega, Tudor and several other brands. In fact, way more watches that I care to count. I have decided that I am going to get a 116610 or 116600. There are things that I love about each with some major differences that I dislike about each.

That said, in my research I have found that there are some differences in the font and/or printing on the dial of a SubC. I have seen some reputable online dealers selling SubC's with each of the dials below.

Essentially, the differences are most noticeable on the "1000 ft = 300 m" and the font used in all of the print other than "SUBMARINER".

Was there a point in time, year or iteration that Rolex changed the font??

Top photo is straight from Rolex's website. Notice the spacing between the "300" and the "m". As well as the font and size of the "ft" proceeding "1000". Also, the font used in all of the subsequent react below "SUBMARINER" seems to have "tails" on the ends of the letters whereas on the pic straight from Rolex, the font is a blocked font.

Any input and expertise is appreciated!!

Thanks!
Ty

From Rolex. Notice the wider spacing.

From web. Notice the tighter spacing.

Hodog16 · 6 February 2017, 06:30 AM

There's a few different dials but these are the major differences. One has serif and one sans serif for the SUBMARINER. From what others have said on previous threads, there is no rhyme or reason and one is not newer than the other.

It's the same for all Sub dials including the blue and green dials.

Hwkaholic · 6 February 2017, 06:37 AM

Thanks for the reply! I just wanted to make sure both variations were legit. Through some research I have found some legitimate dealers stating that the one with the more tightly spaced printing is or could be a fake.

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mistermann · 6 February 2017, 06:55 AM

I have the bottom style and like it a lot better.

seand442 · 6 February 2017, 06:56 AM

Dials all seem to have their own identities. Every so often, it seems Rolex modifies the type or spacing for reasons only they know.

Boaters · 6 February 2017, 07:18 AM

I have the top and love it!

Sydny2 · 6 February 2017, 07:27 AM

I have the bottom one. Bought it from AD two months ago.

JacksonStone · 6 February 2017, 07:43 AM

It looks like the date wheels are different on both versions, too. The non-serif dial has a non-serif date, and vice versa. Is that normal?

For what it's worth, my SubC Date is all serifs, and was purchased in November 2016 from an AD.

kauffee · 6 February 2017, 09:08 AM

Lots of threads on this topic, so you might want to run a search. But the short version, as others have said, is that there are multiple versions which are all legitimate and one is not necessarily newer than another.

Harvey G. · 13 February 2017, 01:11 PM

I'm a very new Rolex owner and am glad to see this thread. Hopefully someone here can ease my mind a little. I've had my Rolex, a 116610ln, for less than two weeks. I bought it new from an authorized dealer so there would be no worries about it being legitimate.

I have read about the font variations and have no real concern with that. I just want to be sure the watch is really a Rolex. My problem is that there is one font change that I have never seen mentioned regarding a real Rolex. My concern is with the "A" in "SUBMARINER".

Everything I have read says that fakes usually have a pointed "A" while the real Rolex "A" has a flat top. Naturally mine has the pointed top on the "A" just to mess up my mind. This also does apply to some of the other "A"s on the dial.

I have looked at countless Submariner pictures over the last few months and have never seen the pointed "A" on any of them. Always a flat topped "A". I have seen the pointed "A" on pictures of fakes.

They said they received my watch from Rolex around December of 2016 so it is definitely relatively recent production.

Has anyone else seen a quite new legitimate Submariner (date) with a pointed "A" in the word SUBMARINER?

Thanks for anything you may be able to contribute.

Matt_75 · 9 April 2017, 07:10 AM

New to these forums and Rolex, but searched about the font differences in the dial dealing with the FT and 1000ft=300M marking/spacing as well. I just really wanted to say that I too have a newer sub that I bought last month and it too has the pointed "A" vs the flat top for the SUBMARINER font. It was purchased from an AD as well. It also has the serif font and tightly spaced 1000ft=300M markings.

MovieGuy · 9 April 2017, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey G.

I have read about the font variations and have no real concern with that. I just want to be sure the watch is really a Rolex.

If you bought a new Rolex from an AD you bought a genuine Rolex. That's one of the biggest benefits of buying directly from an AD: peace of mind.
What would an AD have to gain by selling a non-authentic Rolex? It would be immediately discovered when any service work was done.

watchwatcher · 9 April 2017, 11:00 AM

There's another watch forum?

s15blk · 9 April 2017, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey G.

I have looked at countless Submariner pictures over the last few months and have never seen the pointed "A" on any of them. Always a flat topped "A". I have seen the pointed "A" on pictures of fakes.

They said they received my watch from Rolex around December of 2016 so it is definitely relatively recent production.

Has anyone else seen a quite new legitimate Submariner (date) with a pointed "A" in the word SUBMARINER?

Thanks for anything you may be able to contribute.

I bought my LVc on November 2016 from a Rolex Boutique. It has a pointed A.
Hope that helps to ease your mind. Now, go and enjoy your new watch in good health!

6 February 2017, 06:07 AM	#1
Hwkaholic "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Hawkeye Country!! Posts: 63	Change in 116610LN dial?? Hello. I know I am new to TRF, but I am on he hunt to join the community on a more regular basis. I have been on "that other forum" for quite a while and have an excellent reputation over there. I have never owned a Rolex but am currently on the hunt to own my first. I have owned Omega, Tudor and several other brands. In fact, way more watches that I care to count. I have decided that I am going to get a 116610 or 116600. There are things that I love about each with some major differences that I dislike about each. That said, in my research I have found that there are some differences in the font and/or printing on the dial of a SubC. I have seen some reputable online dealers selling SubC's with each of the dials below. Essentially, the differences are most noticeable on the "1000 ft = 300 m" and the font used in all of the print other than "SUBMARINER". Was there a point in time, year or iteration that Rolex changed the font?? Top photo is straight from Rolex's website. Notice the spacing between the "300" and the "m". As well as the font and size of the "ft" proceeding "1000". Also, the font used in all of the subsequent react below "SUBMARINER" seems to have "tails" on the ends of the letters whereas on the pic straight from Rolex, the font is a blocked font. Any input and expertise is appreciated!! Thanks! Ty From Rolex. Notice the wider spacing. From web. Notice the tighter spacing.

6 February 2017, 06:56 AM	#5
seand442 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Earth Watch: 116610 Posts: 3,455	Dials all seem to have their own identities. Every so often, it seems Rolex modifies the type or spacing for reasons only they know. __________________ NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT. FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL. THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.

6 February 2017, 06:30 AM	#2
Hodog16 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: NC Watch: RG Olive DD40 Posts: 1,711	There's a few different dials but these are the major differences. One has serif and one sans serif for the SUBMARINER. From what others have said on previous threads, there is no rhyme or reason and one is not newer than the other. It's the same for all Sub dials including the blue and green dials.

6 February 2017, 06:37 AM	#3
Hwkaholic "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Hawkeye Country!! Posts: 63	Thanks for the reply! I just wanted to make sure both variations were legit. Through some research I have found some legitimate dealers stating that the one with the more tightly spaced printing is or could be a fake. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 February 2017, 06:55 AM	#4
mistermann "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: Drew Location: Iowa Watch: 116600 Posts: 496	I have the bottom style and like it a lot better.

6 February 2017, 07:18 AM	#6
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,649	I have the top and love it!

6 February 2017, 07:27 AM	#7
Sydny2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: SubC, GMT Posts: 248	I have the bottom one. Bought it from AD two months ago.

6 February 2017, 07:43 AM	#8
JacksonStone Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,150	It looks like the date wheels are different on both versions, too. The non-serif dial has a non-serif date, and vice versa. Is that normal? For what it's worth, my SubC Date is all serifs, and was purchased in November 2016 from an AD.

6 February 2017, 09:08 AM	#9
kauffee 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Portland, OR Watch: 116610LN, 116500LN Posts: 1,379	Lots of threads on this topic, so you might want to run a search. But the short version, as others have said, is that there are multiple versions which are all legitimate and one is not necessarily newer than another.

13 February 2017, 01:11 PM	#10
Harvey G. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1	I'm a very new Rolex owner and am glad to see this thread. Hopefully someone here can ease my mind a little. I've had my Rolex, a 116610ln, for less than two weeks. I bought it new from an authorized dealer so there would be no worries about it being legitimate. I have read about the font variations and have no real concern with that. I just want to be sure the watch is really a Rolex. My problem is that there is one font change that I have never seen mentioned regarding a real Rolex. My concern is with the "A" in "SUBMARINER". Everything I have read says that fakes usually have a pointed "A" while the real Rolex "A" has a flat top. Naturally mine has the pointed top on the "A" just to mess up my mind. This also does apply to some of the other "A"s on the dial. I have looked at countless Submariner pictures over the last few months and have never seen the pointed "A" on any of them. Always a flat topped "A". I have seen the pointed "A" on pictures of fakes. They said they received my watch from Rolex around December of 2016 so it is definitely relatively recent production. Has anyone else seen a quite new legitimate Submariner (date) with a pointed "A" in the word SUBMARINER? Thanks for anything you may be able to contribute.

9 April 2017, 07:10 AM	#11
Matt_75 Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Kailua, HI Posts: 1	New to these forums and Rolex, but searched about the font differences in the dial dealing with the FT and 1000ft=300M marking/spacing as well. I just really wanted to say that I too have a newer sub that I bought last month and it too has the pointed "A" vs the flat top for the SUBMARINER font. It was purchased from an AD as well. It also has the serif font and tightly spaced 1000ft=300M markings.

9 April 2017, 11:00 AM	#13
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,479	There's another watch forum?

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