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cslume · 12 February 2017, 11:48 PM

Greetings! This is my first time on the site and my first foray into Rolex. I wear Panerai today but love the vintage Rolex.

To get to the point, I was at a convention of collectors yesterday and stumbled on what appeared to be a genuine Comex Sub sitting in a display case with a vintage leather strap. I thought nothing of it at first but then did a quick google search to remind me of the rarity of the Comex. The asking price for this watch was $5,500. I was a bit shocked and am wondering if it's a fake or a fake dial etc. I may go back today to take pictures. Aside from reference numbers, what would be some other indicators that it's not genuine?

Given that this was a convention of knowledgeable collectors I was surprised to see the price and am wondering if they're pretending to not know what it is and sell a fake one at an inflated price.

Any help you can provide is much appreciated!

offrdmania · 13 February 2017, 12:54 AM

You would need to verify the model of sub as well as the serial number to see if it falls into the correct range of time for the Comex. Then you would need to ask if there is any documentation for the piece.
At that price, most likely it isnt a true Comex. I give it a very small % that its authentic, especially in its environment.

Chasseur · 13 February 2017, 02:19 AM

if it's right, you will make the best deal ever

watchlovr · 13 February 2017, 02:22 AM

If it looks too good to be true...........

MonBK · 13 February 2017, 02:36 AM

If it's real, hurry back.

MattCH · 13 February 2017, 02:47 AM

Many fake dials out there. Be careful. Make some HQ photos and post them here.

FTX I · 13 February 2017, 02:49 AM

I suspect that in a convention of knowledgeable collectors (assuming they collect watches, obviously) you wouldn't see a real one being sold for that price, nor a fake one being sold at all. I'm curious to know what you will find out about this watch.

Vincent65 · 13 February 2017, 06:03 PM

Good luck!

petereoin · 13 February 2017, 07:40 PM

I would suspect that it isn't truly a Comex, but someone's project, hence the price

swatty · 13 February 2017, 07:58 PM

Maybe the seller doesn't have internet ?

cslume · 14 February 2017, 01:18 AM

Attached are the photos I took. The bezel and dial both had a blue/navy color to them. The seller said he knew the dial had been replaced because he had it checked out but i don't know if that means whoever checked it out saw the logo and figured it had been replaced or knew for sure it was a different dial and not a real Comex.

Let me know what you think. Thanks again!

thomaspp · 14 February 2017, 01:34 AM

No bueno.....

this was at the Miami bantique show yes?

roh123 · 14 February 2017, 01:38 AM

Doesn't look right eventhough I know almost nothing about comexes. Walk away..

The guy selling it obviously knows it is shit as the price is as it is. Quite bad form to be honest.

77T · 14 February 2017, 01:46 AM

Since you could still see it a day later - at that asking price - and in a room full of knowledgeable collectors - the answer should be clear...

But the key is "replaced dial". Rolex isn't printing NOS COMEX dials. A service dial would be blank despite the head having been made for a bulk COMEX order. Very likely a refinished dial.

cslume · 14 February 2017, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomaspp

No bueno.....

this was at the Miami bantique show yes?

Yep, how'd you know?

cslume · 14 February 2017, 01:48 AM

Thanks all. I figured it was too good to be true as well and upon looking at it closer, it did seem a bit rough and just not right.

77T · 14 February 2017, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslume

Thanks all. I figured it was too good to be true as well and upon looking at it closer, it did seem a bit rough and just not right.

Welcome to TRF

...and hope you sign up as a Pledge Member since you just gained 10x in value above the small fee!

cslume · 14 February 2017, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Welcome to TRF

...and hope you sign up as a Pledge Member since you just gained 10x in value above the small fee!

Haha thank you!!! Indeed I did!

Haywood_Milton · 14 February 2017, 02:10 AM

We've seen that artist's work elsewhere...

This is something like what he was aiming for :

...but with the rarer, inverted depth / Submariner text.

Move along quickly now !

H

tjbender · 14 February 2017, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haywood_milton

we've seen that artist's work elsewhere...

this is something like what he was aiming for :

...but with the rarer, inverted depth / submariner text.

Move along quickly now !

H

rofl

swish77 · 14 February 2017, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslume

Attached are the photos I took. The bezel and dial both had a blue/navy color to them. The seller said he knew the dial had been replaced because he had it checked out but i don't know if that means whoever checked it out saw the logo and figured it had been replaced or knew for sure it was a different dial and not a real Comex.

Let me know what you think. Thanks again!

That's just straight up insulting. Who's the seller trying to fool?! What a piece of you know what.

saskmh · 15 February 2017, 01:49 AM

I would wager that is a fake dial. The round markers are HUGE... Like a maxi dial.

ever · 15 February 2017, 03:58 PM

FAKE FAKE FAKE, runnnnnnnnnnnn

yannis · 15 February 2017, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

We've seen that artist's work elsewhere...

This is something like what he was aiming for :

...but with the rarer, inverted depth / Submariner text.

Move along quickly now !

H

or this:

12 February 2017, 11:48 PM	#1
cslume "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 5	Comex Found? Greetings! This is my first time on the site and my first foray into Rolex. I wear Panerai today but love the vintage Rolex. To get to the point, I was at a convention of collectors yesterday and stumbled on what appeared to be a genuine Comex Sub sitting in a display case with a vintage leather strap. I thought nothing of it at first but then did a quick google search to remind me of the rarity of the Comex. The asking price for this watch was $5,500. I was a bit shocked and am wondering if it's a fake or a fake dial etc. I may go back today to take pictures. Aside from reference numbers, what would be some other indicators that it's not genuine? Given that this was a convention of knowledgeable collectors I was surprised to see the price and am wondering if they're pretending to not know what it is and sell a fake one at an inflated price. Any help you can provide is much appreciated!

13 February 2017, 12:54 AM	#2
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,838	You would need to verify the model of sub as well as the serial number to see if it falls into the correct range of time for the Comex. Then you would need to ask if there is any documentation for the piece. At that price, most likely it isnt a true Comex. I give it a very small % that its authentic, especially in its environment. __________________ TRF Member 11738

13 February 2017, 02:47 AM	#6
MattCH "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: EU Watch: PP/ROLEX Posts: 165	Many fake dials out there. Be careful. Make some HQ photos and post them here. __________________

13 February 2017, 06:03 PM	#8
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	Good luck! __________________

13 February 2017, 07:58 PM	#10
swatty "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,404	Maybe the seller doesn't have internet ? __________________ 5513, 7928, 1601(gifted to my daughter), 16610LV, 14060, 16610(Random serial),116610, ,79280P, 70330, 25600TB, 792500BM, M56000, 79030B, 25707B/21 (won this special watch),

13 February 2017, 02:19 AM	#3
Chasseur "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: John Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,077	if it's right, you will make the best deal ever

13 February 2017, 02:22 AM	#4
watchlovr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: UK Posts: 252	If it looks too good to be true...........

13 February 2017, 02:36 AM	#5
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	If it's real, hurry back.

13 February 2017, 02:49 AM	#7
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,652	I suspect that in a convention of knowledgeable collectors (assuming they collect watches, obviously) you wouldn't see a real one being sold for that price, nor a fake one being sold at all. I'm curious to know what you will find out about this watch.

13 February 2017, 07:40 PM	#9
petereoin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ireland Watch: 5513,16610 Posts: 216	I would suspect that it isn't truly a Comex, but someone's project, hence the price

14 February 2017, 01:34 AM	#12
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	No bueno..... this was at the Miami bantique show yes? __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

14 February 2017, 01:38 AM	#13
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	Doesn't look right eventhough I know almost nothing about comexes. Walk away.. The guy selling it obviously knows it is shit as the price is as it is. Quite bad form to be honest.

14 February 2017, 01:46 AM	#14
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,687	Since you could still see it a day later - at that asking price - and in a room full of knowledgeable collectors - the answer should be clear... But the key is "replaced dial". Rolex isn't printing NOS COMEX dials. A service dial would be blank despite the head having been made for a bulk COMEX order. Very likely a refinished dial. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

14 February 2017, 01:48 AM	#16
cslume "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 5	Thanks all. I figured it was too good to be true as well and upon looking at it closer, it did seem a bit rough and just not right.

14 February 2017, 02:10 AM	#19
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,319	We've seen that artist's work elsewhere... This is something like what he was aiming for : ...but with the rarer, inverted depth / Submariner text. Move along quickly now ! H __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 *RNCD DSSD 116660.

15 February 2017, 01:49 AM	#22
saskmh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 1,027	I would wager that is a fake dial. The round markers are HUGE... Like a maxi dial. __________________ RCN (Canadian) Tudor Milsub database co-manager

15 February 2017, 03:58 PM	#23
ever "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: south Posts: 165	FAKE FAKE FAKE, runnnnnnnnnnnn

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