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Tony64 · 21 February 2017, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WAK4

They didn't renege on the PP yet...which is what I was referring to, though we don't yet know if there is any deposit on any of it yet.

But would agree if there was a deposit on the 116500, I'd be demanding that back now.

I understood your point, but if the AD didn't honor his commitment on the Daytona (as documented in email), then I'd feel morally justified cancelling my Patek order and demanding any deposit be returned. Legality aside, surely the AD should be held to at least the same ethical standard as the buyer. Play by the rules, or don't play at all.

ugazag · 21 February 2017, 06:29 AM

I understand all the arguments about business is business, etc. I know there were email communications confirming you were next. Is that an enforceable contract? Was any money put down on the Daytona?
All of that is just navel gazing. The real issue is that you have been a regular and loyal customer of his for a number of years. You took him at his word, and he didn't live up to his word. Therefore, he is no longer deserving of your business.

porschejeff · 21 February 2017, 06:33 AM

Yes you got screwed. That's a bunch of BS and either you remind him of your past loyalty or time to move on to another AD with your business and the friends you have referred. Just my 2 cents on this.

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EDL7 · 21 February 2017, 07:40 AM

You should get him to give you a nice big fat discount on the PP..or take your $$..somewhere else..

douglasf13 · 21 February 2017, 08:05 AM

I'm a business owner, and I would never knowingly break my word to a customer. Honestly, I would not only pull my PP order, but I would also mention the name of the AD in threads like this.

Hairdude1 · 21 February 2017, 08:53 AM

That sucks, I would cancel the Patek order and take your business elsewhere

freefly · 21 February 2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jameson

So Basel last year, called this small-town AD same day and they said I was first on the list for Daytona 116500. Confirmed it in an email.

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Originally Posted by jameson

Finally the owner calls me this weekend, says that they have gotten 2 in, owner kept one and they gave the other one to a very good client.

That's all you really need to know right there. Total BS. If they don't intend on honoring a "list" then they shouldn't have one in the first place.

freefly · 21 February 2017, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by maxbaris

What boggles my mind is why on earth would anyone would behave like this to a loyal customer! It's hard to comprehend.

Greed and/or lack of business ethics.

kilyung · 21 February 2017, 10:22 AM

If it was me... they'd have lost a good customer.

Vipes · 21 February 2017, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by freefly

That's all you really need to know right there. Total BS. If they don't intend on honoring a "list" then they shouldn't have one in the first place.

Exactly my thoughts.

MCO1 · 21 February 2017, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiboy

I would cancel your PP order with this AD. Then I would call other Rolex/PP dealers and tell them you would like to buy both watches from them and see what they can do.

I'd be quite pissed at this AD, as it sounds like you have given and referred them a a lot of business.

Last time I checked entry into Patek is twice the retail of the new Daytona. I believe I would do as the above said. I certainly wouldn't spend anymore money with these folks.

Johny · 22 February 2017, 12:23 AM

hi op. the ad never kept his word. cancel the pp and go elsewhere. tell all your friends and contacts.

Gaijin · 22 February 2017, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

hi op. the ad never kept his word. cancel the pp and go elsewhere. tell all your friends and contacts.

Agreed.

kitsgq · 14 March 2017, 05:40 PM

I feel your frustration. Many of the Rolex ADs I reached out to sounded quite arrogant and pompous when I asked to be put on the list. One went so far as to say it's better you shop local. Really? You don't think I thought of that already? Instead of inquiring about the other watches on my purchase list this year or how we can establish a new relationship together, many ADs are riding the strong demand at the moment and forgetting who their client base is. I would drop the dealer in question and try your luck elsewhere. I When things are slow at the AD in question, and no business is immune to the cyclical nature of demand, perhaps they will reflect on how short sighted they were with you. And by then, I'm sure you'll have found a new AD. Good luck with the PP and your Daytona purchase. I'm sure you'll have one sooner than you think.

jfoord27 · 14 March 2017, 07:41 PM

Here's an idea.
1) cancel PP order - he doesn't deserve it
2) pay Archie Luxury $20 to make a video naming and shaming the AD about the shady way he treats customers, so that others spend their money at othee dealerships.

Racerdj · 14 March 2017, 08:31 PM

Same here! This is why I deal with George at Govberg.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

If it was me... they'd have lost a good customer.

21 February 2017, 06:33 AM	#93
porschejeff "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Michigan Watch: DD 228238 Posts: 2,456	Yes you got screwed. That's a bunch of BS and either you remind him of your past loyalty or time to move on to another AD with your business and the friends you have referred. Just my 2 cents on this. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk __________________ Rolex DD 228238 Daytona 116515 (sold) AP 15710 Rolex 116710 BLNR And a few others...

21 February 2017, 08:53 AM	#96
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	That sucks, I would cancel the Patek order and take your business elsewhere __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

22 February 2017, 12:23 AM	#102
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	hi op. the ad never kept his word. cancel the pp and go elsewhere. tell all your friends and contacts. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

21 February 2017, 06:29 AM	#92
ugazag "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Dennis Location: Savannah, GA Watch: 114060 Posts: 117	I understand all the arguments about business is business, etc. I know there were email communications confirming you were next. Is that an enforceable contract? Was any money put down on the Daytona? All of that is just navel gazing. The real issue is that you have been a regular and loyal customer of his for a number of years. You took him at his word, and he didn't live up to his word. Therefore, he is no longer deserving of your business.

21 February 2017, 07:40 AM	#94
EDL7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 842	You should get him to give you a nice big fat discount on the PP..or take your $$..somewhere else..

21 February 2017, 08:05 AM	#95
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,615	I'm a business owner, and I would never knowingly break my word to a customer. Honestly, I would not only pull my PP order, but I would also mention the name of the AD in threads like this.

21 February 2017, 10:22 AM	#99
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	If it was me... they'd have lost a good customer.

14 March 2017, 05:40 PM	#104
kitsgq "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: US Posts: 403	I feel your frustration. Many of the Rolex ADs I reached out to sounded quite arrogant and pompous when I asked to be put on the list. One went so far as to say it's better you shop local. Really? You don't think I thought of that already? Instead of inquiring about the other watches on my purchase list this year or how we can establish a new relationship together, many ADs are riding the strong demand at the moment and forgetting who their client base is. I would drop the dealer in question and try your luck elsewhere. I When things are slow at the AD in question, and no business is immune to the cyclical nature of demand, perhaps they will reflect on how short sighted they were with you. And by then, I'm sure you'll have found a new AD. Good luck with the PP and your Daytona purchase. I'm sure you'll have one sooner than you think.

14 March 2017, 07:41 PM	#105
jfoord27 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 194	Here's an idea. 1) cancel PP order - he doesn't deserve it 2) pay Archie Luxury $20 to make a video naming and shaming the AD about the shady way he treats customers, so that others spend their money at othee dealerships.

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