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Old 12 February 2017, 01:38 PM   #1
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5370p

I do not pay much attention to chronograph. Does 5370P worth to collect?
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Old 12 February 2017, 01:45 PM   #2
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I do not pay much attention to chronograph. Does 5370P worth to collect?
The black enamel dial is quite a beauty! It has probably surpassed the popularity of the 5204 since its release. It is a great piece for the astute Patek collector.
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Old 12 February 2017, 02:18 PM   #3
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Brian, I noticed your other post and my advice would be to forget the 5271P and 5270R and opt for the 5370P if it is an affordable option. It is one of the nicest watches they have made in years and the price tag certainly reflects that
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Old 12 February 2017, 03:24 PM   #4
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brian, i noticed your other post and my advice would be to forget the 5271p and 5270r and opt for the 5370p if it is an affordable option. It is one of the nicest watches they have made in years and the price tag certainly reflects that

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Old 12 February 2017, 03:59 PM   #5
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A dream watch for me, I absolutely love the 5370p
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Old 12 February 2017, 05:34 PM   #6
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Am I silly not even pay any attention to this beauty? It is nice to come here to discuss Patek watch with nice people here.
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Old 12 February 2017, 05:39 PM   #7
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Brian, I noticed your other post and my advice would be to forget the 5271P and 5270R and opt for the 5370P if it is an affordable option. It is one of the nicest watches they have made in years and the price tag certainly reflects that
How about 5270P? How do you think about 5370P compare to 5270P? 5271P is a little more expensive than 5370P. Maybe it is a good idea for me to change my mind to go for 5370P. Then I can save a few money.
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Old 12 February 2017, 05:42 PM   #8
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The black enamel dial is quite a beauty! It has probably surpassed the popularity of the 5204 since its release. It is a great piece for the astute Patek collector.
I agree with you. 5204P is not very attractive to me. Love to hear your opinion.
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Old 12 February 2017, 06:00 PM   #9
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I have owned 5204p 5270r and 5271p as well as two 5270g and various 5970s. 5270p does not yet exist. If I was starting again I would pick 5970p folllowed closely by the 5370p.

It is a very personal decision. Can you tell us what you are trying to achieve with your collection and whether they are for wearing and enjoying or collecting?
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Old 12 February 2017, 09:12 PM   #10
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Conkers is spot on
5970p or a 5370 are both wonderful choices on so many levels
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Old 12 February 2017, 10:16 PM   #11
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At any given time, where would be the best place to find a 5370p? Any particular country or continent im more likely to find one of these than another?
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IMHO a Perpetual Chronograph /spilt chrono is a patek philippe must have if you have the funds. I know i would
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Old 13 February 2017, 12:46 AM   #13
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Go with what fits your wrist and traps your eyes.

A collection is YOURS, no one else's, and if the watch doesn't fit perfect, or look perfect to you, then forget about it.
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I think you need to try all of these on, you have a lot of fantastic choices to make so have a great time and fly out to UK or wherever and enjoy the selecting ride.
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Also there is something to be said about a nice manual wind chrono that you can just wind, set the time, and strap her on and go (the fact that it is a split second makes it even better). A Perpetual Chrono is great however a bit involved when it comes to setting the date and moonphase. Playing with the watch is part of the fun for me but if the Perpetual Calendar Chrono is not wound every few days it could become a nuisance. Just my opinion
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Old 13 February 2017, 03:16 AM   #16
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I have owned 5204p 5270r and 5271p as well as two 5270g and various 5970s. 5270p does not yet exist. If I was starting again I would pick 5970p folllowed closely by the 5370p.

It is a very personal decision. Can you tell us what you are trying to achieve with your collection and whether they are for wearing and enjoying or collecting?
It is very simple. I only buy watches that I like. I wear Most of my watches. Sometimes, it is a good idea to hear opinions from other watch fans because I am not always right.

I have some experience about buying watches. I do not like to make wrong decision again and again. What happen when you make wrong decision? You will more likely to sell a watch that you don't like it after you bought it. Sometimes, you find a better watch after you buy. Then, what are you going to do? Some people may choose to sell it to buy a new watch.

I like to wear my watch like this and enjoy the watch, not put in the safety box.

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Do you know what happen to my 5961P? I sold it after I wear it again and again. It is a nice watch, but it is too heavy for me to wear(not confortable). I didn't try the 5961P before I bought it and I didn't ask opinions from others. This is my mistake.

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I hope I am going to like my 6104/1G. I don't even have a chance to try it before I bought it. I don't think I can try this watch before I make a decision. However, I do like it so far.

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There are too many stories to tell. Just want to hear more opinions before making a decision.
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Old 13 February 2017, 03:38 AM   #17
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At any given time, where would be the best place to find a 5370p? Any particular country or continent im more likely to find one of these than another?
My AD will help me to get 5370P if I want to buy it. I think Big AD must have 5370P, but it all depends on your relationship with AD. I believe you can get a better price in Europe.
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Old 13 February 2017, 03:51 AM   #18
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I think you need to try all of these on, you have a lot of fantastic choices to make so have a great time and fly out to UK or wherever and enjoy the selecting ride.
I am just too lazy to fly to London to try watches. Now I am going to do with your suggestion.

Thank you.
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Old 13 February 2017, 04:18 AM   #19
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Also there is something to be said about a nice manual wind chrono that you can just wind, set the time, and strap her on and go (the fact that it is a split second makes it even better). A Perpetual Chrono is great however a bit involved when it comes to setting the date and moonphase. Playing with the watch is part of the fun for me but if the Perpetual Calendar Chrono is not wound every few days it could become a nuisance. Just my opinion
I agree with you. Good point.
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Old 13 February 2017, 04:54 AM   #20
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Go with what fits your wrist and traps your eyes.

A collection is YOURS, no one else's, and if the watch doesn't fit perfect, or look perfect to you, then forget about it.
very good point. Thanks.
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Old 13 February 2017, 10:19 AM   #21
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Given the amounts of money involved and the cost of making mistakes I think you must make the time to try before you buy. That 6104 in particular.
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My AD will help me to get 5370P if I want to buy it. I think Big AD must have 5370P, but it all depends on your relationship with AD. I believe you can get a better price in Europe.
So Europe would be a more likely place to get a 5370 than somewhere like Hong Kong or Asia as a whole?
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Given the amounts of money involved and the cost of making mistakes I think you must make the time to try before you buy. That 6104 in particular.
I real don’t like to try a watch in unknown AD. I can not expect what I am going to be treated. Some AD just do not pay any attention to me. It makes me feel so bad. I have too many bad experiences. I visited HK quite often, but I do not spend time to visit any AD there. Also, I do not visit any AD in Taipei too. I am going to London to visit my AD.

Last time, I visited Paris Salon. I asked to see 5130, but sales seems not interested to show me a watch. Suddenly, he saw I wear a very nice watch on my wrist. The whole attitude is completely different. Then, Salon manager showed out and show me many nice watches. From now on, I will not visit any stranger AD without wearing a big watch.
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Old 13 February 2017, 11:19 AM   #24
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So Europe would be a more likely place to get a 5370 than somewhere like Hong Kong or Asia as a whole?
I believe Hong Kong has 5370, but I prefer to buy in London. Better price better service for me. I also receive many gifts after buying a nice watch.

Do not waste your time. Always phone AD before visiting. Only a small chance to get 5370P by walk in customer. Also, some AD just do not like walk in customers. The best way to get 5370P is by someone introduce you to an AD that he has a good relationship.
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5370 is an incredible choice.
I would take it over all the perpetual calendar choices.

I believe it is 41mm, the size may have some influence over your decision?
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So Europe would be a more likely place to get a 5370 than somewhere like Hong Kong or Asia as a whole?
The 5370 is an application piece and you need to find an AD that will sponsor your application. So although it can happen, don't expect to walk into an AD and try on the watch and make a purchase. Go through your normal avenue of purchasing a Patek watch, whether it is in Europe, Asia or elsewhere in the world. If you have never purchased from an AD, seek out pre-owned stores that you have worked with. They will know how to get the watch for the "right" price if you are seriously interested.
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I tried on the 5370P at the Geneva Salon. I happened to be visiting the London Salon when they had received a 5204P which was awaiting pick up by another collector. They graciously let me try it on with white gloves.

As an aside, I wore my 5575 to the London Salon. As OP mentioned above, you get slightly better treatment at Salons if you are wearing a special piece.

I like both the 5204P and the 5370P. I was offered a 5204P by an AD, but I passed on it.

Personally I am perfectly content with my 5270G for now. The 5204P adds the split second chrono and more exclusivity into a smaller group of collectors. However you have to know what type of collector you are and what you are looking for in your next watch.

If you want to visit the Geneva Salon to try on special watches like the 5370, 5271, 5204, etc, your AD manager can make a phone call to Geneva so they can make prior arrangements for your visit. You can try on all the watches you want at the Geneva Salon and then order the watch through your AD. Patek Geneva acknowledges the strong relationship you have built with your AD and will gladly accommodate your visit to Geneva so you can place your special watch order with your AD.

The 5370 is definitely thinner than the 5204, but both are quite wearable watches.
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Old 13 February 2017, 02:13 PM   #28
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The 5370 is an application piece and you need to find an AD that will sponsor your application. So although it can happen, don't expect to walk into an AD and try on the watch and make a purchase. Go through your normal avenue of purchasing a Patek watch, whether it is in Europe, Asia or elsewhere in the world. If you have never purchased from an AD, seek out pre-owned stores that you have worked with. They will know how to get the watch for the "right" price if you are seriously interested.
I know I should go to the effort of taking the proper path in order to get the service required, however, I simply don't have the time to travel to and forth. I have the capacity to purchase the watch so would it be ok for me to simply go on Chrono24 and see who is stocking this watch and attempt to buy it that way or is the service and care so much better when done through an AD? What is the expected wait time for a timepiece such as the 5370p?
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I do not pay much attention to chronograph. Does 5370P worth to collect?
I preferred your earlier ideas about the 5270 or 5970. A word of advice not to make mistakes with future purchases - be patient my friend. When the right watch, like the right woman, comes along you'll know and you won't have to ask your friends or strangers online and you won't have to talk yourself into something just because you're impatient to buy. Why not wait till Basel at least at this point?
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I preferred your earlier ideas about the 5270 or 5970. A word of advice not to make mistakes with future purchases - be patient my friend. When the right watch, like the right woman, comes along you'll know and you won't have to ask your friends or strangers online and you won't have to talk yourself into something just because you're impatient to buy. Why not wait till Basel at leasat this point?
Thank you for your suggestion. I already tell my AD that I will wait until Basel befor I make a decision. My AD reply this is a sensible decision.
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