5196 j vs r

[Silver Bullet]

My question is for those familiar with both and relates to the dial: is it more silvery/white on the 5196j and more grey on the 5196r? That's my impression and am now torn between preferring rose gold and what appears to be a more attractive dial color (to me anyways) on the yellow gold model.

What material are these dials made of.


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[Tony64]

Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

My question is for those familiar with both and relates to the dial: is it more silvery/white on the 5196j and more grey on the 5196r? That's my impression and am now torn between preferring rose gold and what appears to be a more attractive dial color (to me anyways) on the yellow gold model.

What material are these dials made of.


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iirc when the 5196R was first introduced the dial was more a silverish tone like you describe, and later versions came with a white dial similar to the J version.

I may be mistaken, but that's my recollection.

Dial composition should be the same regardless, as I don't believe these models were ever offered with gold or enamel dials.

[Silver Bullet]

Originally Posted by Tony64

iirc when the 5196R was first introduced the dial was more a silverish tone like you describe, and later versions came with a white dial similar to the J version.



I may be mistaken, but that's my recollection.



Dial composition should be the same regardless, as I don't believe these models were ever offered with gold or enamel dials.

Hmmm. So u think they both have the same dial color/tone now (I am looking at brand new ones).

I wonder what the dials are made of, too.


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[Tony64]

The current R and J versions have the same color dial ("opaline white").

I may be mistaken, but I think you will need to find an early version of the 5196r to get the dial you want. Hopefully I'm wrong though, and someone else will correct me.

[.db]

I tried on a 5196R at the Geneva salon about two weeks ago and it had a silverish dial that, to me, matches what patek.com shows for the G. How that translates into availability or if they still produce them in that combo is something I don't know.

[RUK]

Looked at these a LOT.

The dials are not identical

[Silver Bullet]

Originally Posted by RUK

Looked at these a LOT.

The dials are not identical

Is that the J on the left with the more white dial and the R on the right with a more grey dial, as I have also suspected?


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[scarlet knight]

Very interesting! Requires in person try on!

[Silver Bullet]

Originally Posted by scarlet knight

Very interesting! Requires in person try on!

Agreed, but the issue is finding one of each to try on at the same time!


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[sl25]

I went to several retailers in Hong Kong today. 5196R (left side in picture) and G (right side in picture) have grey dials, while the J (middle in picture) has a whiter dial, which I prefer. I like rose gold more than yellow gold. I wish the R has a whiter dial like the J.