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Old 21 February 2017, 09:11 AM   #1
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Hi guys, maybe someone can help... I have a gmtII late Y series (original bill of sale is from 2004). On the punched paper i have only the serial number (with country code 160 -uk-) and only the reference number 16710. is there anyway to find out what was the orignal bezel color when the watch left the factory ? Looks like it was specified on the credit card type warranty (that came ater) but not on the paper punched certificate right ? Thanks a lot for your help : )
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Old 21 February 2017, 10:21 AM   #2
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When I took one of my 2004 GMT's to RSC for service, even they couldn't tell me what colour bezel had been fitted to it when it left the factory, so I guess the answer is no.
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Old 21 February 2017, 09:59 PM   #3
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Thanks a lot for your answer : ) That what i thought indeed. Before they introduce the "credit card" type of warranty all the paper certificates are just ref 16710 (at least for Europe I believe).
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Hi guys, maybe someone can help... I have a gmtII late Y series (original bill of sale is from 2004). On the punched paper i have only the serial number (with country code 160 -uk-) and only the reference number 16710. is there anyway to find out what was the orignal bezel color when the watch left the factory ? Looks like it was specified on the credit card type warranty (that came ater) but not on the paper punched certificate right ? Thanks a lot for your help : )
Makes no different what the insert was as all 3 a fully interchangeable thats the beauty of the 16710 get all 3 insert then 3 different watches for very little money.Its mainly the USA watches that had the bezel colour on warranty paper/plastic card as they are a separate company from Rolex SA .
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Old 22 February 2017, 12:21 AM   #5
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Thanks a lot Padi56, very true, i might get the 2 others bezels then : )
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Old 22 February 2017, 12:33 AM   #6
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My Y serie 16710 from UK LC 160 had bezel colour on the hangtag with bar code, 16710BLRO, nothing on warranty paper.
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Old 22 February 2017, 12:49 AM   #7
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Old 22 February 2017, 12:51 AM   #8
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I don't have my paperwork with me, but I could have sworn there was a "B" in the serial/model number that indicated it was born red/blue ("a" black/red and "n" for black).
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On US papers it would have this designation. On international it does not. This is true on the credit card style warranty cards as well.
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Old 22 February 2017, 06:24 AM   #10
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If you happen to have the original hang tag with the white sticker on it, you would know; mine says 16710BLRO, along with the serial number, hence originally a Pepsi...
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Old 22 February 2017, 06:36 AM   #11
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Interesting stuff. You learn something everyday!
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Old 22 February 2017, 06:42 AM   #12
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I'll take a pic of my paper. I think it's designated black for some reason
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When I took one of my 2004 GMT's to RSC for service, even they couldn't tell me what colour bezel had been fitted to it when it left the factory, so I guess the answer is no.
Sorry to bump up a old thread. After reading this thread I pulled the trigger and purchase a used 16710 coke insert with punched papers(no mention of insert variant anywhere).

Went down to RSC Singapore today for a servicing quote, was told that based on the serial number it was originally a LN, they will have to confiscate the coke and i have to purchase a black from them if i want to have it serviced. Kind of disappointing
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Old 6 June 2018, 02:02 AM   #15
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If you want it serviced then just go ahead. After that source for a used insert, either coke or Pepsi or both. Can also get them on carousell. Alternative if you’re ever in London the rsc there sells the insert for around £60. £36 to replace. £60 to change and keep the old one.
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On US papers it would have this designation. On international it does not. This is true on the credit card style warranty cards as well.
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Sorry to bump up a old thread. After reading this thread I pulled the trigger and purchase a used 16710 coke insert with punched papers(no mention of insert variant anywhere).

Went down to RSC Singapore today for a servicing quote, was told that based on the serial number it was originally a LN, they will have to confiscate the coke and i have to purchase a black from them if i want to have it serviced. Kind of disappointing
RSC Singapore "confiscated" the coke bezel??? Sounds a bit extreme for those folks on Orchard... Or did they say that, in order to service, they also have to replace the insert to black (and in the process of doing so, keep/throw away the old coke?). Which again sounds a bit too much given the GMT came with all 3 inserts... unless your coke insert is third party (not original).
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RSC Singapore "confiscated" the coke bezel??? Sounds a bit extreme for those folks on Orchard... Or did they say that, in order to service, they also have to replace the insert to black (and in the process of doing so, keep/throw away the old coke?). Which again sounds a bit too much given the GMT came with all 3 inserts... unless your coke insert is third party (not original).
Yes the second one, in order to service they will have to keep the coke. Haha sorry I may have use the wrong word "confiscate".

Orignal fat font coke. Any tips on how to keep my old insert? I read somewhere on the web, replace it with a fake and service with RSC, they will charge the usual insert replacement price instead of the entire bezel replacement price.
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Yes the second one, in order to service they will have to keep the coke. Haha sorry I may have use the wrong word "confiscate".

Orignal fat font coke. Any tips on how to keep my old insert? I read somewhere on the web, replace it with a fake and service with RSC, they will charge the usual insert replacement price instead of the entire bezel replacement price.
Worth giving it a try, why not.

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Sorry to bump up a old thread. After reading this thread I pulled the trigger and purchase a used 16710 coke insert with punched papers(no mention of insert variant anywhere).

Went down to RSC Singapore today for a servicing quote, was told that based on the serial number it was originally a LN, they will have to confiscate the coke and i have to purchase a black from them if i want to have it serviced. Kind of disappointing
No RSC should ever "confiscate" the insert on a GMT, regardless of the color. Any GMT I have ever sent in; the RSC has allowed me to change to whatever insert was available for that model, and the 16710 came with all of the variants.

I would talk to somebody else at this RSC.
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Makes no different what the insert was as all 3 a fully interchangeable thats the beauty of the 16710 get all 3 insert then 3 different watches for very little money.Its mainly the USA watches that had the bezel colour on warranty paper/plastic card as they are a separate company from Rolex SA .


The 16700 was only coming as Pepsi and LN right?

For you is the same if the 16710 comes with Pepsi or Coke from factory? It’s not a tunning watch?!!!! Thanks mate.


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Hi guys, maybe someone can help... I have a gmtII late Y series (original bill of sale is from 2004). On the punched paper i have only the serial number (with country code 160 -uk-) and only the reference number 16710. is there anyway to find out what was the orignal bezel color when the watch left the factory ? Looks like it was specified on the credit card type warranty (that came ater) but not on the paper punched certificate right ? Thanks a lot for your help : )
Its mainly the USA that had any indication of the insert colour in the paperwork all Europe and most other countries just serial and ref 16710
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My 16710 warranty card, code 110, 110 for France, France in Europe


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Its mainly the USA that had any indication of the insert colour in the paperwork all Europe and most other countries just serial and ref 16710


Fab ! So it’s really cheap so we can have 3 watches.
I reckon when you change the insert is difficult to keep the alignment on the insert. Right? I like to keep things original.


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Mine is Z serial no card so I can flip inserts -:))


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