Following the discussion around the SUB super case...

[Tallbark]

In a long thread there was a discussion about if the Supercase was a mistake or not. Several persons pointed out that the GMT introduced only two years ago have the super case so I guess the answer is no - not a mistake.

However - it seems like the bracelet looks wider on the GMT and the case not that blocky like the SUB. The cases should be about the same except a bit smaller crown guards on the GMT. Is this a visual effect due to the jubilee bracelet?

[fskywalker]

The GMTc, starting with the 11671X series always had slightly smaller / skinnier lugs than the SubC 11661X series. Whether the super case was a mistake or not depends on taste; never liled them myself as prefer the 5 series cases over the 6 series. Think the new 12611X series is a movement on the right direction!


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[Benzsiam]

They sold like a hotcakes, how could be a mistake, it's just a matter of preference.

Some people just love to complain no matter what.

I love both the previous and the new one, they are not much different to me.

[Hollie_Rollie]

Not a mistake. A small improvement yes, but not a mistake.

[mykii]

It wasn't a mistake, it was a thing of beauty. It was the perfect case for a tool watch, and frankly the "squareness" in which it wears is one of the most interesting wearing phenomenons out there (and is what made me drawn to modern Rolex).

To me, a wider bracelet with less taper is more of an issue than a 'blocky' case which differentiated itself remarkably well.

[vh2k]

Rolex already slightly updated the lugs on the GMT. Following negative feedback on the blocky case design, Rolex sought to address this in 2017 for the 2018 launch of new GMT releases.

From Hodinkee:

“With the new GMT-Master II 126710 Rolex has subtly redesigned the 40 mm diameter case (by rounding off some the sharp edges of the case lugs) so as to create better ergonomics, and while I didn’t compare the new and old designs side-by-side, it does seem to be more comfortable on the wrist.”

From another review:

While on paper the new stainless steel Rolex GMT-Master II Pepsi ref. 126710 BLRO has the same 40mm Oyster case size, it has been slightly redesigned with thinner lugs.

[jrs146]

Originally Posted by Benzsiam

They sold like a hotcakes, how could be a mistake, it's just a matter of preference

Some people just love to complain no matter what.

I love both the previous and the new one, they are not much different to me.

Yeah Rolex sold every super case it ever made. So a mistake? Not at all. Honestly I don’t really know what all the gripe is about. I like many cases and it’s nice to have some variety. There’s something cool about a 5-digit, super case, and now the new cases. I’m not sure one is any better than any other though.


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[rolexfanforlife]

Do people think the GMT case will get updates in the near future? I know it was just redone, so I doubt it for a long time, but curious other views

[Rashid.bk]

Well here goes round 2 on the same issue. The GMTs have had a super case but not as boxy as the Subs. Rolex claims the case and lugs were reshaped or some other marketing term that actually translated into “we adjusted the lug-holes” to fit the jubilee and try to prevent switching to an oyster.
All measurements of the GMT 11 and 12 are identical on the lug width and and lug to lug(top to bottom) length. The jubilee adds a visual dimension to the mix. Is it the same as the new 12 series Subs, obviously not.
They are different still. 2020 seems to be the year of lug obsession, I think the best solution to shut up all critics is to chop off the lugs and go back to a pocket watch, no lugs AT ALL, problem solved.

People were up in arms about the ring lock text on the Deepsea, yes it’s there but only if you A. Look specially for it or B. Take a macro photo. No Rolex lugs ever bothered me looking at them on the wrist, honestly not very many details jump out just enjoying the watch with my eyes.
I agree with Padi on this, put the loupes down, turn the zoom down. Enjoy your watch with your own eyes.

[enjoythemusic]

Only ONE person / store comments about the larger case is a less than positive light and TRF goes crazy. No one else seems to.

Really TRF?

I don't care what anyone else says, frankly, and love the larger case as it looks more solid / durable. Seems to me that only ONE place is doing clickbait, and TRF fell for it. Bummer ladies and gentlemen.

Move along.

Move along.

NEXT!

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[Ranger67]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Only ONE person / store comments about the larger case is a less than positive light and TRF goes crazy. No one else seems to.

Really TRF?

I don't care what anyone else says, frankly, and love the larger case as it looks more solid / durable. Seems to me that only ONE place is doing clickbait, and TRF fell for it. Bummer ladies and gentlemen.

Move along.

Move along.

NEXT!

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Common sense prevails

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

...People were up in arms about the ring lock text on the Deepsea...

I was one of them . Now,a favourite for nearly 10 years.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

I was one of them . Now,a favourite for nearly 10 years.

My old Deepsea, dearly missed. I enjoyed it on my wrist, always a pleasure to look down and see it, even in black, the matte dial is very versatile in different lighting. Or you could put it up to your eyeball or take a zoomed in photo, or make youtube videos to create controversy just for views, since that is in fact their job and how they make money. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even care about Rolex or watches in general, it's just a job after all....

[joli160]

Sub and GMT maxi cases of the 6 digits were identical apart from the caseback.
Only other difference I know of is the position of the lugholes.

The so-called restyling of the latest GMT are not measurable.
Just a marketing trick.

Guess all the nay sayers claiming the maxi case was a mistake missed the recent popularity of the GMT’s and LV’s

[Tallbark]

Originally Posted by joli160

Sub and GMT maxi cases of the 6 digits were identical apart from the caseback.
Only other difference I know of is the position of the lugholes.

The so-called restyling of the latest GMT are not measurable.
Just a marketing trick.

Guess all the nay sayers claiming the maxi case was a mistake missed the recent popularity of the GMT’s and LV’s

They are not the same. Look at side by side pictures...

[JSolution]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

My old Deepsea, dearly missed. I enjoyed it on my wrist, always a pleasure to look down and see it, even in black, the matte dial is very versatile in different lighting. Or you could put it up to your eyeball or take a zoomed in photo, or make youtube videos to create controversy just for views, since that is in fact their job and how they make money. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even care about Rolex or watches in general, it's just a job after all....

That watch really suits you I feel it doesn’t work on a lot of people ... you Really should get yourself another

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by JSolution

That watch really suits you I feel it doesn’t work on a lot of people ... you Really should get yourself another

Thanks so much, definitely will in the future. It's my favorite Rolex reference. A person definitely needs the right wrist size to pull it off.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Tallbark

They are not the same. Look at side by side pictures...

I did for many years, only difference I could find was the thickness

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[zengineer]

How about calling it a less than ideal, somewhat sideways mis-step so everyone isn't so freaked out about someone suggesting the allmighty Rolex made a "mistake"

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by joli160

Sub and GMT maxi cases of the 6 digits were identical apart from the caseback.
Only other difference I know of is the position of the lugholes.

The so-called restyling of the latest GMT are not measurable.
Just a marketing trick.

Guess all the nay sayers claiming the maxi case was a mistake missed the recent popularity of the GMT’s and LV’s

Exactly right.

Originally Posted by Tallbark

They are not the same. Look at side by side pictures...

Try measuring them and then come back to us, thanks. The difference is microns and hyperbole.

[Tallbark]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Exactly right.




Try measuring them and then come back to us, thanks. The difference is microns and hyperbole.

Well, at least I see the differences here;

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=301202

[vh2k]

Originally Posted by zengineer

How about calling it a less than ideal, somewhat sideways mis-step so everyone isn't so freaked out about someone suggesting the allmighty Rolex made a "mistake"

Agreed. God forbid Rolex actually make a mistake.

From now on, we must only refer to recent changes as an evolution, course correction, refinement, modification, or enhancement.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by zengineer

How about calling it a less than ideal, somewhat sideways mis-step so everyone isn't so freaked out about someone suggesting the allmighty Rolex made a "mistake"

Or saying Rolex offers a different case for those who desire a bolder look.

I look fwd to Cellini case arguments here on TRF