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13 December 2017, 11:26 AM | #31 | |
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13 December 2017, 11:27 AM | #32 | |
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To add, BC it seems did do the smart thing at that meeting. He sat back and listened. I would add that no serious WIS would dismiss Rolex. The same way that no serious WIS would dismiss Seiko. Nor would any serious WIS dismiss a tourby. Such a big world, so much to learn. |
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13 December 2017, 11:48 AM | #33 |
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I found a 62 year old Bulova Sea King in a junk box at a flea market in March. Wound the watch, put it on my wrist and watched it keep time with the Rolex on my other wrist. Still going strong. It's a great watch.
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"Ahh yes, yes. Quite right, quite right. A Gerard Depardieu. Had the pleasure of having one on my wrist when he accidentally sat on my hand. I must say, his movement was exquisite." followed by : "Do not pass go! Do not collect $200!" |
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13 December 2017, 11:58 AM | #35 |
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There are levels to every interest, while I haven't had such an encounter in the world of watches, I could easily be outgunned in a discussion of the actual workings of watch movements or complications. It is however something I intend to work on, am looking into some books that would help me learn about it and have the ability to service a simple watch movement myself.
I have had similar encounters in the world of wine. I am a wine enthusiast but have no formal training in wine so my knowledge is all gained through experience and reading. While my knowledge often exceeds that of many of my peers that also lack formal training, when I get in the room and start tasting and talking wine and wine making with my peers who do have formal training (sommeliers and wine makers) I can often be left listening and nodding without much to contribute as the conversation shifts into chemical compounds, yeast strains and the like. I would like to think those fellow enthusiasts didn't look down on you for your Rolex and likely understood the utility of a Rolex but as their interest was in Haute Horology and movement complication, it wasn't something that peaked their interest or something that was really relevant to their conversation. |
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A friend of the family, who was a watchmaker, recommended the brand, as it was associated with Bulova at the time. :cheers; Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
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I was sorry to miss this 1960s Sea Hunter selling here earlier this year: www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=517441 |
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Hey BC,
This thread has been on my mind and regarding your comment about tourbillons being a rich man's toy, I'd have to agree, though I probably wouldn't have phrased it as you did. As others have mentioned, tourbillons once served a functional purpose, but now are mostly for aesthetic purposes. Tourbillions are a way for a watchmaker to show off their technical prowess and artisanal skills. As you know, there are different levels of watchmaking. Once you get to a certain level (e.g., haute horology) a watch is just as much an art piece as it is a tool that tells time. |
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You can appreciate expensive watches too. Once you realize that even a $10 wristwatch is pretty useless in 2017, and a $450k watch is way more so, Rolex doesn’t stand a chance. Enjoy them all!!!
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14 December 2017, 11:23 AM | #44 |
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for some reason I feel their obvious lack of enthusiasm for your Rolex was more a statement on the NATO strap than the Rolex itself. I'm just guessing here though.
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Grand Seiko does however because it 'establishes' one as having watch 'knowledge'. I really mean this because truthfully who buys a Grand Seiko? You guessed it. Those who know and those who understand true horology. Rolex 3135 3235 whatever for all intents is Rolexes version of the ETA 2824. Bulletproof. Rolex has value because of the Rolex community. Blancpains dont have bad resale value because its not a good watch. They have bad resale because only a WIS knows blancpain. The resale market is all about name recognition. Again. Rolex does not impress any WIS. Especially WIS who own Rolex. |
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14 December 2017, 11:52 AM | #46 |
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Want to impress a true WIS?
Wear a Seiko MM300 sitting next to someone wearing a Rolex sub. I love me a Rolex but the name is 75% of the battle. It just is. |
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The resale market is about aspirational buyers. People who want the brand badly enough to accept a previously owned item. How closely connected are new and used markets? Who knows. People pay sticker price for clothing brands like Polo and J. Crew. Yet used items sell for pennies on the dollar. It seems that if something is accessible at retail, people will steer clear of used. |
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What's worse: a watch snob or a wine/alcohol snob?
The first allows someone to show off wealth while dressing it up with a veneer of horological sophistication. The second allows people to feel proud about getting drunk |
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I find all snobs boring.
Being on an ego trip because you happened to educate yourself on one subject or another doesn't make you special. While you may know a lot about a certain subject other people know a lot about other subjects. |
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Most people who can afford a few Rolex's have stupidly specialized knowledge is some field no one else cares about . . . |
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6 January 2018, 04:11 PM | #55 |
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Best thread I have read on here! just like my perfect mates night out in a Belfast pub!
Been enjoying this so much I've left my Exp2 somewhere round here. If my 3 year old who loves flushing things has it , you are going to see the first expert in U bends and Septic tanks!! The man makes the watch, the watch does not make the man. For the bling toys I enjoy. the closest to my heart are my 20 dollar Casio.. my first watch , and a Seiko 6309, which I built from a few scrappers I bought. People who wear to impress are doing their thing. People with real in-depth interest are doing their thing. Jack Nicholson said it... Why can't we all just get along. Unless you are trying to belittle my watches or my standing, Then I will Matt Damon in Good will hunting your attitude back to full respect mode. How do you like those Apples! Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
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Rolex may not make tourbillons or minute repeaters, but they are best at what they do, and that in itself is impressive. But you are right about GS though, it does take someone who understands horology to buy them. |
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Nicely made, check. Heritage, check. Priced... well, seems to be decent range 3-10k with limited editions and some weirder artsy pieces... there'll be a buyer, just not me. There's not much there IMHO that'll hook someone interested in objects horological... am I impressed with SpringDrive? Hmm... Ok... nah, I prefer mechanical automatics without any electronics governing. |
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6 January 2018, 10:25 PM | #58 |
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Agree. Put it this way, I may like fancy nice "haute horology" watches. But if I am about to get stuck for a long time in a deserted island, I rather have a Rolex on my wrist.
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So to your preference for non-“electronics governing” I totally respect that, and have similar feelings myself as if using electronics “cheats” the mechanical-ness of the watch. However, learning how GS actually makes the Spring Drive changed my opinions of it. It is a masterclass in craftsmanship and engineering. I would LOVE to own one, if only I liked any of Siekos styling. I see the Spring Drive a lot like Japanese whiskey. Sure, it is not a Scotch, but it is a hell of a drink! If I am going to choose any whiskey it will be a single malt Isla Scotch. It is pure, governed by clear rules, single barrel left up to a person to decide its quality, and only from Scotland. But the Japanese make a hell of a “scotch”. It just does not follow the rules, is not made in Isla, they are usually blended, and probably use computers to figure out the taste. |
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6 January 2018, 11:36 PM | #60 |
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I like what I like and that's enough for me. You get snobs in all walks of life, you just have to ignore them.
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