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Trurolexer · 9 December 2008, 05:17 PM

Hi, Yesterday when I trip to Jakarta, window shopping in many watches stores I look very strange Phenomena.

Many vintage Rolexes there!!!

I look some Subs (1680, 5513), GMT Masters (1675) & Explorer II (1655).

I don't know exactly the price, but this really strange Phenomena for me.

The seller talk to me that for vintage, the price is down lately.

He can't sell his stock easily right now.

Not just that many Bluesy (16613) if I'm not wong in only 1 shop, I can find 6 Bluesies!!!

In every stores I look they always have Daytona at least one (white or black) ss!!!

How about that?

Jakarta now is vintage Heaven, specially Rolex.

Wanna Shop Here, Guys?

Best Regards, TR.

swatty · 9 December 2008, 06:45 PM

One my way soon

sounds great

SLS · 9 December 2008, 06:48 PM

Yep, vintage pieces have really taken a hit...good time to buy, bad time to sell. IMHO, prices were due for a bit of a correction.
~Scott

archie42 · 9 December 2008, 06:51 PM

Don't get too excited.... Alot of the pieces in Indonesia are "barstards" .... ie a mix match of genuine and not so genuine parts......

Personally I would not trust many Jakarta Vintage watch dealers......

swatty · 9 December 2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archie42

Don't get too excited.... Alot of the pieces in Indonesia are "barstards" .... ie a mix match of genuine and not so genuine parts......

Personally I would not trust many Jakarta Vintage watch dealers......

Have you been there ?

SLS · 9 December 2008, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archie42

Don't get too excited.... Alot of the pieces in Indonesia are "barstards" .... ie a mix match of genuine and not so genuine parts......

Personally I would not trust many Jakarta Vintage watch dealers......

Yeah, I'm sure a guy who has a business selling vintage pieces would not know the difference.

Why not insult a few other countries while you are at it.

~Scott

archie42 · 9 December 2008, 07:14 PM

Hey.... Archie lived in Bangkok for 2 years.... also spent time in Hong Kong and Singapore.....

I am just telling the truth........

Bangkok has the same issue.....

No insult intended...... the truth is the truth..... can you handle it?

archie42 · 9 December 2008, 07:18 PM

Archie also say be careful of the lady folk in the night life districts also.... they were not always ladies originally.....

ArizonaHD · 9 December 2008, 07:41 PM

Oh boy, here we go again.

swatty · 9 December 2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatty

Have you been there ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by archie42

Hey.... Archie lived in Bangkok for 2 years.... also spent time in Hong Kong and Singapore.....

I am just telling the truth........

Bangkok has the same issue.....

No insult intended...... the truth is the truth..... can you handle it?

Is that no ?

archie42 · 9 December 2008, 08:07 PM

I have been to Jakarta many times.... although not a resident.... I do have good friends there.... I COULD TELL A FEW STORIES.... but I am aiming for a G-Rating in all my posts!

Padi Edit
The way you are going you could have a no rating to post.

Trurolexer · 9 December 2008, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archie42

I have been to Jakarta many times.... although not a resident.... I do have good friends there.... I COULD TELL A FEW STORIES.... but I am aiming for a G-Rating in all my posts!

Padi Edit
The way you are going you could have a no rating to post.

Hey Archie, you need a medication...

I'm from Indonesia, do you think "ALL" my Rolexes fake too?

Trurolexer · 9 December 2008, 09:26 PM

Also...Indonesian not "ALL" poor people. Many here "maybe" 10 times more rich than us. So please don't underestimed Indonesia, OK? Peace.

hflee55 · 9 December 2008, 10:03 PM

TR, my dear neighbour...can you show me around if I come over for a visit? Maybe we can go Plaza Senayan together!

Trurolexer · 9 December 2008, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hflee55

TR, my dear neighbour...can you show me around if I come over for a visit? Maybe we can go Plaza Senayan together!

My pleasure.

Not in Plaza Senayan. Intime & Time Place only sell the brand new watches.

Jedi · 9 December 2008, 11:11 PM

On my way over early next year TR.

How's about a session over Nasi Padang and the best Ayam Goreng you can find??

Trurolexer · 9 December 2008, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi

On my way over early next year TR.

How's about a session over Nasi Padang and the best Ayam Goreng you can find??

I will take you there, Bro.

Hey Lee, your Aquanout is 36 or 40mm?

Jedi · 9 December 2008, 11:15 PM

Bapak TR, mine is the 38mm 5165 and my wife's is the 36mm 5066 or 65 I can't remember off hand now.

In Bali now actually, in Ubud... might so see some antiques stores tomorrow... cari barang lama lama

Inspirasi dari Bapak TR!!!

Trurolexer · 9 December 2008, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi

Bapak TR, mine is the 38mm 5165 and my wife's is the 36mm 5066 or 65 I can't remember off hand now.

In Bali now actually, in Ubud... might so see some antiques stores tomorrow... cari barang lama lama

Inspirasi dari Bapak TR!!!

You GOOD in BAHASA, Lee.

Jedi · 10 December 2008, 12:42 AM

Kami jiran ya? Abang adik!!

asudarno · 10 December 2008, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

How about that?

Jakarta now is vintage Heaven, specially Rolex.

Wanna Shop Here, Guys?

Where is the exact location? Plaza Senayan? Got a trip to Jakarta, next month, maybe can get one vintage for daddy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi

Kami jiran ya? Abang adik!!

JediRolex · 10 December 2008, 05:02 AM

Truerolexer, that sounds like it was a great time looking at all those pieces! I wish there was more vintage Rolexes to check out in my neck of the woods.

Next time you go maybe the shop owners would be cool with you taking a couple photos!

Trurolexer · 10 December 2008, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediRolex

Truerolexer, that sounds like it was a great time looking at all those pieces! I wish there was more vintage Rolexes to check out in my neck of the woods.

Next time you go maybe the shop owners would be cool with you taking a couple photos!

Yeah, maybe someday I will take some pics for you Guys.

Welshwatchman · 10 December 2008, 05:41 AM

Sell the PAMs

Go shopping

Then we can call you TruVintageRolexer

chenx15 · 10 December 2008, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archie42

Don't get too excited.... Alot of the pieces in Indonesia are "barstards" .... ie a mix match of genuine and not so genuine parts......

Personally I would not trust many Jakarta Vintage watch dealers......

Buds, you just know how rub the people the wrong way. if TR says The timex he's wearing is a patek philippe i will still believe him.

archie42 · 10 December 2008, 06:43 AM

If Indonesia is so wonderful.... why do 99.9% of Ebay sellers refuse to ship to Indonesia?

SLS · 10 December 2008, 06:48 AM

The same reason they don't ship to Italy, Africa and about a dozen other countries....tracking becomes sketchy.
~Scott

charliec · 10 December 2008, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archie42

If Indonesia is so wonderful.... why do 99.9% of Ebay sellers refuse to ship to Indonesia?

Slippery slope Archie slippery slope !!!!

mretzloff · 10 December 2008, 06:56 AM

archie, I've read over many of your posts and I just don't get you. Why do you feel the need to insult people left and right?

Big deal if fake watches are sold in Indonesia. They are sold all over the world. Big deal if eBayers won't ship there. You're just stereotyping people left and right.

EDIT: And what on Earth does the night life have to do with anything? If you were decent enough to stay away from those areas, you wouldn't even have to worry about that.

jasper · 10 December 2008, 06:58 AM

So what kind of price might I expect to pay for a nice 1680 over there for instance?

9 December 2008, 05:17 PM	#1
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Jakarta...Vintage Rolex Paradise!!! Hi, Yesterday when I trip to Jakarta, window shopping in many watches stores I look very strange Phenomena. Many vintage Rolexes there!!! I look some Subs (1680, 5513), GMT Masters (1675) & Explorer II (1655). I don't know exactly the price, but this really strange Phenomena for me. The seller talk to me that for vintage, the price is down lately. He can't sell his stock easily right now. Not just that many Bluesy (16613) if I'm not wong in only 1 shop, I can find 6 Bluesies!!! In every stores I look they always have Daytona at least one (white or black) ss!!! How about that? Jakarta now is vintage Heaven, specially Rolex. Wanna Shop Here, Guys? Best Regards, TR.

9 December 2008, 06:48 PM	#3
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	Yep, vintage pieces have really taken a hit...good time to buy, bad time to sell. IMHO, prices were due for a bit of a correction. ~Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

9 December 2008, 11:11 PM	#16
Jedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Lee Location: Malaysia Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,534	On my way over early next year TR. How's about a session over Nasi Padang and the best Ayam Goreng you can find?? __________________ Lee This is my watch. There are many like it but this one is mine... Flickr Blog

9 December 2008, 11:15 PM	#18
Jedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Lee Location: Malaysia Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,534	Bapak TR, mine is the 38mm 5165 and my wife's is the 36mm 5066 or 65 I can't remember off hand now. In Bali now actually, in Ubud... might so see some antiques stores tomorrow... cari barang lama lama Inspirasi dari Bapak TR!!! __________________ Lee This is my watch. There are many like it but this one is mine... Flickr Blog

10 December 2008, 12:42 AM	#20
Jedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Lee Location: Malaysia Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,534	Kami jiran ya? Abang adik!! __________________ Lee This is my watch. There are many like it but this one is mine... Flickr Blog

9 December 2008, 06:45 PM	#2
swatty 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,409	One my way soon sounds great

9 December 2008, 06:51 PM	#4
archie42 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Don't get too excited.... Alot of the pieces in Indonesia are "barstards" .... ie a mix match of genuine and not so genuine parts...... Personally I would not trust many Jakarta Vintage watch dealers......

9 December 2008, 07:14 PM	#7
archie42 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Hey.... Archie lived in Bangkok for 2 years.... also spent time in Hong Kong and Singapore..... I am just telling the truth........ Bangkok has the same issue..... No insult intended...... the truth is the truth..... can you handle it?

9 December 2008, 07:18 PM	#8
archie42 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Archie also say be careful of the lady folk in the night life districts also.... they were not always ladies originally.....

9 December 2008, 07:41 PM	#9
ArizonaHD "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 472	Oh boy, here we go again.

9 December 2008, 08:07 PM	#11
archie42 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 96	I have been to Jakarta many times.... although not a resident.... I do have good friends there.... I COULD TELL A FEW STORIES.... but I am aiming for a G-Rating in all my posts! Padi Edit The way you are going you could have a no rating to post.

9 December 2008, 09:26 PM	#13
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Also...Indonesian not "ALL" poor people. Many here "maybe" 10 times more rich than us. So please don't underestimed Indonesia, OK? Peace.

9 December 2008, 10:03 PM	#14
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	TR, my dear neighbour...can you show me around if I come over for a visit? Maybe we can go Plaza Senayan together!

10 December 2008, 05:02 AM	#22
JediRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Derek Location: Chicago Watch: 114060 Posts: 447	Truerolexer, that sounds like it was a great time looking at all those pieces! I wish there was more vintage Rolexes to check out in my neck of the woods. Next time you go maybe the shop owners would be cool with you taking a couple photos!

10 December 2008, 05:41 AM	#24
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Sell the PAMs Go shopping Then we can call you TruVintageRolexer __________________ ..33

10 December 2008, 06:43 AM	#26
archie42 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 96	If Indonesia is so wonderful.... why do 99.9% of Ebay sellers refuse to ship to Indonesia?

10 December 2008, 06:48 AM	#27
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	The same reason they don't ship to Italy, Africa and about a dozen other countries....tracking becomes sketchy. ~Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

10 December 2008, 06:56 AM	#29
mretzloff "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: Submariner Date Posts: 822	archie, I've read over many of your posts and I just don't get you. Why do you feel the need to insult people left and right? Big deal if fake watches are sold in Indonesia. They are sold all over the world. Big deal if eBayers won't ship there. You're just stereotyping people left and right. EDIT: And what on Earth does the night life have to do with anything? If you were decent enough to stay away from those areas, you wouldn't even have to worry about that. __________________ "M" 16610 Submariner "M" 16570w Explorer II

10 December 2008, 06:58 AM	#30
jasper "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: north vancouver Watch: 1680 / speedy pro Posts: 474	So what kind of price might I expect to pay for a nice 1680 over there for instance? __________________ 1997 Speedmaster Pro: Hesalite, steel back, three dials and manual wind. The classic. 1969 Submariner 1680: Very refreshed - The diver. 1950's Milus: 18k gold, manual wind, no date - the dinner watch. Seiko 6309 The perfect watch for a trip to Mexico.

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