Do you think that the Black Bay 58 will be a timeless design or become outdated?

[Marlboro.]

I am considering this watch but worry it may become a dated design like many watches from other brands do (Omega, Breitling, etc). Or do you think the design will be timeless like the Submariner is?

I do wonder how vintage faux-vintage watches will be regarded in the future.

I do believe it is a great quality watch for this price-point and do love the look.

[Sublovin]

Generally speaking I am not a fan of fake patina, but you need to get what you like. You can’t make a watch purchase based on how it will be perceived years down the road. Get what you like, or what’s the fun?

[Onequik135i]

I’m on short list to get one myself, seems like a great watch to add to any collection along with great looks and excellent reviews. I say go for it.

[Jamhot]

I have the BB58 and use it as a daily. I love the look of this watch. I like to think of it as a Porsche 356 Speedster with modern Cayman GT4 bits done by the factory itself

[peterp]

Watch is ok, strap+clasp and bracelet not. If they introduce blue or other colours they can be much more appreciated. Who knows.

[jsausley]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

Generally speaking I am not a fan of fake patina, but you need to get what you like. You can’t make a watch purchase based on how it will be perceived years down the road. Get what you like, or what’s the fun?

I'm wearing mine right now. I don't really consider this fake patina. The lume plots are pretty much white, and there is the bronze/gold surrounds which do add a vintage feel but it's not like those Omega re-editions that had yellow lume.

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[Marlboro.]

Originally Posted by peterp

Watch is ok, strap+clasp and bracelet not. If they introduce blue or other colours they can be much more appreciated. Who knows.

What is wrong with the bracelet and clasp?

[Oscarpapa]

Its the only new watch I would be interested in purchasing. It has classic proportions that will not date, an attractive colour scheme, looks good on a strap and will I think become a classic.

[jsausley]

Originally Posted by Marlboro.

What is wrong with the bracelet and clasp?

It's a low quality bracelet compared to Rolex oyster bracelets. It's not a bad bracelet but more on par with Omega/TAG than Rolex.

[Marlboro.]

Originally Posted by jsausley

It's a low quality bracelet compared to Rolex oyster bracelets. It's not a bad bracelet but more on par with Omega/TAG than Rolex.

I have handled the Black Bay and also handled Tag Heuer and Omega bracelets. It seemed far better quality than the ghastly Aquaracer bracelets, better than the Speedmaster bracelets too.

[Rocket launcher]

It's hardly a Rolex and due to that will always have a price sealing ..
Nice watch though that will hold its own in its class
And will stay a classic as it is already

[jsausley]

Originally Posted by Marlboro.

I have handled the Black Bay and also handled Tag Heuer and Omega bracelets. It seemed far better quality than the ghastly Aquaracer bracelets, better than the Speedmaster bracelets too.

Maybe better than an Aquaracer, but I have a Carrera that I would say is equal or maybe even better than the BB58. Both are equally comfortable but the Carrera just feels like it fits "tighter." But I guess that's the point -- I think the BB58 is supposed to invoke a vintage watch both in look AND feel, and the bracelet fits a little like an old pre-SEL bracelet (slightly more space between links for a more relaxed fit), even though it has SELs.

[Marlboro.]

Originally Posted by jsausley

Maybe better than an Aquaracer, but I have a Carrera that I would say is equal or maybe even better than the BB58. Both are equally comfortable but the Carrera just feels like it fits "tighter." But I guess that's the point -- I think the BB58 is supposed to invoke a vintage watch both in look AND feel, and the bracelet fits a little like an old pre-SEL bracelet (slightly more space between links for a more relaxed fit), even though it has SELs.

Interesting, I am used to a modern Rolex Oyster bracelet and I thought that the BB58 was a reasonably high quality bracelet, not quite as good as the Oyster but still quite good. I haven't tried a Carrera but the Aquaracer felt unbelievably cheap and unrefined, a lot of hair pinching and sharp edges.

[derekhayden]

Originally Posted by Marlboro.

Interesting, I am used to a modern Rolex Oyster bracelet and I thought that the BB58 was a reasonably high quality bracelet, not quite as good as the Oyster but still quite good

Not sure of the BB58 Bracelet but my BBGMT bracelet feels every bit as good as my 216570 oyster besides the obvious tapering difference.

[The Sub-lime One]

At this price range, you’d be hard pressed to find anything else that comes close. I’ve had mine for 6 months and it still gets 70% wrist time. That says a lot considering I have the BLNR and LVc too. I have no issues with the faux patina and riveted bracelet. The only downside I see is the lack of micro extension on the bracelet, but I’ve never needed it so can’t complain.

[crewsin]

I personally don’t care for a new watch that is purposely made to look old by making the lume a creamy color or whatever. But that’s just me...I remember in the 90’s Fender started selling “relic” Stratocasters for a huge premium..the paint was made to look faded, there were rubs on the fretboard, etc. Seriously??? Just buy a new guitar and play it for 20 yrs - your “patina” will mean a hell of a lot more to you later on...

That being said, if I did buy this style of watch, the BB58 or Ranger would be top choices.

[Nico J]

Originally Posted by Marlboro.

Interesting, I am used to a modern Rolex Oyster bracelet and I thought that the BB58 was a reasonably high quality bracelet, not quite as good as the Oyster but still quite good. I haven't tried a Carrera but the Aquaracer felt unbelievably cheap and unrefined, a lot of hair pinching and sharp edges.

The Black Bay bracelets are very high quality - much better than anything from Tag or Omega IMO. Very Oyster-like, especially now that the bracelet tapers from 20mm to 18mm on the BB58. And the ceramic ball bearings in the clasp feel exceptional.

The BB58 is definitely on my radar - just haven't had a chance to see one in person.

[Junior_]

Of course fake patina will be dated at some point. And no, the BB 58 is not as timeless as the Sub. But neither of those things should stop you from buying the watch if you like the watch.

In the Tudor lineup, the black Pelagos, black BB 41, BB GMT, and BB Chrono are, in my opinion, more timeless than the BB 58.

[ap1]

I wouldn’t really call any of tudors modern pieces “timeless”. They haven’t earned that badge yet, nor will they for a while

[mgsooner]

Originally Posted by crewsin

I personally don’t care for a new watch that is purposely made to look old by making the lume a creamy color or whatever. But that’s just me...I remember in the 90’s Fender started selling “relic” Stratocasters for a huge premium..the paint was made to look faded, there were rubs on the fretboard, etc. Seriously??? Just buy a new guitar and play it for 20 yrs - your “patina” will mean a hell of a lot more to you later on...

That being said, if I did buy this style of watch, the BB58 or Ranger would be top choices.

See, that's the thing...ceramic will never patina. It's literally designed not to. There are those of us that like the look of aluminum over ceramic, but still desire to have a modern watch with the newest tech/materials/etc. Tudor is just about the only one left in the game that is filling that void.

I don't love the gilt details on the 58, but I've warmed to them over time and to me they don't scream faux patina. The Omegas someone posted above definitely do.

[johnjm]

I have one and find it more comfortable than the GMT or 116610. It’s on par in comfort to a 116500 on my wrist even.

I love the details on the watch itself. I think it will be a timeless design as it’s already based on one.

I’ll take bets that it remains a once off for a while to some, it will canebalize (sp) the rest of the line as they are too bulky to ever be timeless IMo.


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[crewsin]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

See, that's the thing...ceramic will never patina. It's literally designed not to. There are those of us that like the look of aluminum over ceramic, but still desire to have a modern watch with the newest tech/materials/etc. Tudor is just about the only one left in the game that is filling that void.



I don't love the gilt details on the 58, but I've warmed to them over time and to me they don't scream faux patina. The Omegas someone posted above definitely do.

That’s a good point, theoretically the dial and bezel on the new ones will look the same in 50 yrs. I suppose given enough time the bracelets will wear out and a strap will need to be used...that would give it a more rustic look or whatever. I had a couple 5 digit pieces, but eventually got tired of the aluminum bezels oddly enough. To each his own.