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10 January 2017, 08:28 AM
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Is this anyone else's grail?
In my opinion a "grail watch" is one that you will likely never obtain in your lifetime. In my case it is either of these solid gold GMT's.
The concord... or the first gold GMT with no crown guards: Nobody ever seems to talk about these. Does anyone out there in TRF land happen share my opinion? Anyone happen to be lucky enough to own one?
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10 January 2017, 08:30 AM
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Not my grail, but I sure like them. Especially the no crown guard model. Vintage Awesomeness!
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10 January 2017, 09:00 AM
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whatever makes you happy !
BTW, that's a really nice looking watch !!! Cheers ! J. |
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10 January 2017, 09:37 AM
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No.
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10 January 2017, 09:39 AM
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Very nice! What year would they be?
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10 January 2017, 09:44 AM
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10 January 2017, 10:00 AM
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They are beauties.
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10 January 2017, 10:50 AM
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I've never seen a GMT with those hands before. Great looking watches.
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10 January 2017, 10:50 AM
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I can't remember exact years. The no crown guard is late 50's I believe and the concord was during the 70's. Both are very rare as far as I can find.
They aren't the only grails on my list but are the top two on the GMT list.
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10 January 2017, 11:08 AM
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What references are these? I've never come across them before...
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10 January 2017, 11:13 AM
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Nope, but its beautiful!
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10 January 2017, 12:22 PM
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Nope, but don't let me stop you
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10 January 2017, 12:30 PM
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Two words .... vintage forum....
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10 January 2017, 12:44 PM
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Solid gold and no crown guards?!?!? That has got to be one of the rarest variants out there!
Anyone know of a model they made fewer of? |
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10 January 2017, 01:14 PM
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When I first started loving watches a gold root beer on a jubilee was my grail. I bought one in 2007, loved it and flipped it to put towards a PP 5970J. I miss my root beer and never wear the PP...grails I guess remain grails forever.
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10 January 2017, 01:21 PM
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I see crown guards in the first pic.
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10 January 2017, 01:43 PM
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First pic is a 1675/8 with concord hands.
Second pic is the 50's model without crown guards.
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10 January 2017, 02:16 PM
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10 January 2017, 02:22 PM
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not my grail but its certainly impressive.
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10 January 2017, 06:30 PM
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I like both of those.
Does anyone have more info on these models? |
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10 January 2017, 06:50 PM
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Not a fan of vintage watches, but those are very nice looking pieces.
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10 January 2017, 09:53 PM
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Without the crown guards and with the brown bezel/dial it looks very similar to the Tudor BBB. Maybe something to keep you going until you find the grail?
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10 January 2017, 09:56 PM
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10 January 2017, 11:28 PM
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Not my grail but a great watch.
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11 January 2017, 01:01 AM
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Here is an article on the GMT with the concord hands:
http://www.rolexmagazine.com/2011/02...orde-jets.html Notice the stick hands in the color add. As for the no crown guard model, from what I can tell it was the first solid gold GMT made, hence the old style dauphine hands and small GMt hand.
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11 January 2017, 01:06 AM
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Here is a collection (borrowed from the web) of 1675's and one 16758. Notice two of them have the "concord" stick hands and one without crown guards. The no crown guard version originally had a brown/burgundy bakelite bezel insert just like the 6542.
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11 January 2017, 03:30 AM
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14 January 2017, 01:04 AM
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I just discovered the reference number for the "no crown guard" with dauphine hands...
It's actually a gold 6542! Learn something every day.
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14 January 2017, 01:21 AM
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14 January 2017, 02:14 AM
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How about an albino dial GOLD 6542
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