16570 gmt hand seems off centered

[jjackson99]

Original listing here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/304939728310

In person it honestly does look pretty minty. Doesn’t look to ever have been polished but I’m no expert. I also see looking back in the pics the gmt hand is slightly off centered. But I didn’t notice until seeing it in my face.

[jjackson99]

Originally Posted by Jefferyasher

That seems like a major error, and possibly misleading. My gut would be to ask if there are other things that are amiss that you may not have caught yet. The gmt hand should not have been missed. Did you see the pics prior to purchasing? Were the pics the same watch? If so, then maybe an honest error by all. If not, major red flag! (not sure who is authenticating such a watch while missing that elephant in the room, unless they are just looking to see if all parts are genuine and not mangled)

Posted listing. Pics show the defect but I didn’t notice until I got it in hand.

[jjackson99]

Originally Posted by rmagoo57

Total BS. Post a pick right here of this minty Exp II. Post a link to to listing.

Posted

[rmagoo57]

Originally Posted by jjackson99

Posted listing. Pics show the defect but I didn’t notice until I got it in hand.

how does the funky hand move around the dial? where are your wrist pics? 100's of these 16570's for sale every day and you pick this one??

[jjackson99]

Originally Posted by rmagoo57

how does the funky hand move around the dial? where are your wrist pics? 100's of these 16570's for sale every day and you pick this one??

Haven’t taken off tags yet in case I want to return. Yeah eBay had $500 off watches coupon. Couple that with the security of buying through eBay and the return policy. Seemed safer that a Reddit buy.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by jjackson99

Original listing here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/304939728310

In person it honestly does look pretty minty. Doesn’t look to ever have been polished but I’m no expert. I also see looking back in the pics the gmt hand is slightly off centered. But I didn’t notice until seeing it in my face.

There's at least two different watches shown in that listing, and neither is the watch shown in your first photo. Box set is all wrong, too. And that price is really almost US$15,000 ??? (it's showing me in Hong Kong dollars). Seems you have been seriously conned.

[BillA]

Return and get your money back

[jjackson99]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

There's at least two different watches shown in that listing, and neither is the watch shown in your first photo. And that price is really almost US$15,000 ??? (it's showing me in Hong Kong dollars)

Where do you see two different watches or what are the indicators? Not sure the currency exchange so idk what I’m HKD but it was $7800 USD

[77T]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

There's at least two different watches shown in that listing, and neither is the watch shown in your first photo. Box set is all wrong, too. And that price is really almost US$15,000 ??? (it's showing me in Hong Kong dollars). Seems you have been seriously conned.

You need to look at the “sold” listing. eBay automatically shows other similar watches.

Here’s my screenshot from the sold listing…

Defect is evident.




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[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by jjackson99

Where do you see two different watches or what are the indicators? Not sure the currency exchange so idk what I’m HKD but it was $7800 USD

Listing shows lower dial text as Swiss - T <25 on one and Swiss Made on another, while yours is Swiss.

EDIT: Ignore my posts. Your link went to another listing.

[rmagoo57]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

There's at least two different watches shown in that listing, and neither is the watch shown in your first photo. And that price is really almost US$15,000 ??? (it's showing me in Hong Kong dollars)

No surprise - I didn't click on the link. Troll post most likely. OP will not post a pic of his "error hand" watch.

I would be embarrassed as hell posting this "story". Hi, look at the piece of junk I bought.....

[AF_Rob]

Originally Posted by jjackson99

Where do you see two different watches or what are the indicators? Not sure the currency exchange so idk what I’m HKD but it was $7800 USD

The photos in the listing show two different watches. Adam... It's showing me that same price too.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by 77T

You need to look at the “sold” listing. eBay automatically shows other similar watches.

Here’s my screenshot from the sold listing…

Defect is evident.




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Ok got it, thanks Paul

[77T]

Originally Posted by jjackson99

Where do you see two different watches or what are the indicators? Not sure the currency exchange so idk what I’m HKD but it was $7800 USD

Anyone looking has to be careful since the one you posted is to the sold listing. eBay offered a similar one.

But I see what you see. It is bent and in this pic the result is obvious to any decent watch dealer. When you see the local time, the 24-hr hand is clearly off on the bezel marking (shows before before the hour 16 but should show a smidge after 16).

I suggest a return for refund. You will never know how long it would take to fix, or if you get a correct replacement hand, or get a “story”. Just get your money back.




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[77T]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Ok got it, thanks Paul

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[jjackson99]

Originally Posted by rmagoo57

No surprise - I didn't click on the link. Troll post most likely. OP will not post a pic of his "error hand" watch.

I would be embarrassed as hell posting this "story". Hi, look at the piece of junk I bought.....

I’m not entirely sure what your issue is? I also posted a picture of the piece in hand earlier in the thread. But here it is again with the defect more clear in person. https://imgur.com/a/Ns8Iyyx

[jjackson99]

Thanks everyone who provided helpful comments or insight. I’ve gone ahead and initiated a return and will be shipping the watch back tomorrow! It’s definitely more clear in the eBay listing now that I’ve seen the defect in person but god is it bad in person.. oh well. Back to searching for another Polar! I’ll post an incoming post when I get another to hopefully close this successfully at some point

[Little machines]

I've dealt with Collectors they are reputable . You have to be comfortable with deal and if not do what you gut tells you. Good luck!

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by jjackson99

Update. Reached out to seller and he said his watchmaker can and will fix this. I also have a return option through eBay. Should I move forward with return or get it fixed and keep? I didn’t get it for a killing. Box. No papers. Cert of auth from the jeweler and from eBay for about middle of road pricing. Besides the hand the watch is in mint condition.

The watch isn't in mint condition. Return it and get a much better example.

I can see a number of issues from your picture.

[JSCP]

Return and get $ back. Pronto.

It’s weird lookbwill stay in your mind forever.

[jimcameron]

No! Get your money back asap.

Buy from Davids

[Devildog]

Pics from original listing.

I've seen worse, but its far from mint. Definitely return OP

[KeobNepo]

I would NOT keep this watch

[brucethemanlee]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Pics from original listing.

I've seen worse, but its far from mint. Definitely return OP

besides the GMT, totally over polished. there's not a beveled edge in sight

[Polarexplorerii]

dam that shaft is bent...

[worldofoyster]

thing like this doesn't happen often for Rolex

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

besides the GMT, totally over polished. there's not a beveled edge in sight

And look at the differences between the two cownguards

[ERH]

Move the MINUTE hand to 12 o'clock. The GMT hand should then line up with the Index marker. if you continue to rotate the minute hand the GMT hand moves at half the speed of the hour hand.

Look up Explorer II operating instructions, read them carefully. For example, you can change the hour hand independent of the minute hand.

Good luck, the picture does not show a problem as the minute hand is not on the 12 hour.

[watchluvr4ever]

Originally Posted by ERH

Move the MINUTE hand to 12 o'clock. The GMT hand should then line up with the Index marker. if you continue to rotate the minute hand the GMT hand moves at half the speed of the hour hand.

Look up Explorer II operating instructions, read them carefully. For example, you can change the hour hand independent of the minute hand.

Good luck, the picture does not show a problem as the minute hand is not on the 12 hour.

The GMT hand is bent, not just misaligned.

[zi464]

It's not the first time ppl received the watches are not as described from C&C .