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C. Davidson · 18 October 2009, 01:13 AM

Hello All Paneristi!

Quick question...

Are the following Panerai's COSC Chronometers?

317
311
275

Thanks for your help.

CorruptedSanity · 18 October 2009, 04:10 AM

Add Panerai 312 to the list too please :)

C. Davidson · 18 October 2009, 08:21 PM

I couldn't find anything in regards to this on the Panerai website or in some of their product brochures. This leads me to believe that they are not COSC chronometers. Am I correct in this assumption?

CorruptedSanity · 18 October 2009, 09:39 PM

Chris, hard to say.

nepod90 · 18 October 2009, 10:57 PM

I believe they are. I thought that I received the certificate with the box and papers. I'll have to dig out the box and confirm.

Psmith · 18 October 2009, 11:48 PM

The 111 is COSC, as are the other Historic models with second hands. Not sure about the new in-house movements though.

Cheers

C. Davidson · 19 October 2009, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaifAlSuwaidi

Chris, hard to say.

Hard to say is right. Perhaps they are just playing it down a little...but most Swiss companies love to trumpet their COSC status.

CorruptedSanity · 19 October 2009, 02:32 PM

I say hard to say because you almost know that Manifattura line should be COSC yet according to you they have not stated it anywhere. We know they need the COSC to effectively compete with other more popular brands.

mfer · 20 October 2009, 04:30 AM

I'm pretty sure they don't come with COSC papers, but they are guaranteed by Panerai to operate within those specs.

lazarini · 20 October 2009, 05:24 AM

312 is cosc...

L

c2tcardin · 20 October 2009, 08:28 AM

The 312 is not actually sent off to COSC, it has an in-house version of testing which Panerai does for their own watches. If you look in your manual/book between pages 13 and 14 you will notice a un-numbered page glued in that has the movements testing results.

This is of course for the 312, I'm not 100% sure of the others.

C. Davidson · 20 October 2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c2tcardin

The 312 is not actually sent off to COSC, it has an in-house version of testing which Panerai does for their own watches. If you look in your manual/book between pages 13 and 14 you will notice a un-numbered page glued in that has the movements testing results.

This is of course for the 312, I'm not 100% sure of the others.

Thanks for the input. For me, it doesn't really matter one way or the other if they are COSC or not. Im just trying to put a spreadsheet together with some general information and thats one of the loose ends Im trying to figure out.

Trurolexer · 21 October 2009, 02:24 AM

Hmmm...Chris...My Man...You already seducted by the POWER of The DARKSIDE.

Cool Hand Luke · 21 October 2009, 04:07 AM

Yeah i'll second Jeff's post - from what i'm lead to believe the Manifattura models are tested in house by Panerai, these tests are equivalent or better than COSC according to Panerai.

C. Davidson · 21 October 2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Hmmm...Chris...My Man...You already seducted by the POWER of The DARKSIDE.

They sure look purty!

c2tcardin · 22 October 2009, 12:11 AM

I decided to snap a few pictures of the certification that is in the Panerai 312's booklet. Panerai tests their P-9000 movements to what they call CTMP certification.
Here is a shot of page 12 in the booklet.

This shot is of the next page which is unnumbered and shows the CTMP results and the date of the test.

I like this one as it shows my 312 was tested on April 22, 2009 and I bought it in the US at my AD on May 23, 2009 and month later.

Last observation of the CTMP certificate is that these two pages in the book are the only two with PANERAI written as a water mark in the paper.

Hope this helps clear things up.

C. Davidson · 22 October 2009, 10:23 AM

Thank you very much Jeff!!! Thats really cool!

18 October 2009, 01:13 AM	#1
C. Davidson "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: WXSW Watch: GMT (116710) Posts: 2,723	Panerai Manifattura COSC? Hello All Paneristi! Quick question... Are the following Panerai's COSC Chronometers? 317 311 275 Thanks for your help. __________________ -Cheers, Chris #15,634 "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out."

18 October 2009, 08:21 PM	#3
C. Davidson "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: WXSW Watch: GMT (116710) Posts: 2,723	I couldn't find anything in regards to this on the Panerai website or in some of their product brochures. This leads me to believe that they are not COSC chronometers. Am I correct in this assumption? __________________ -Cheers, Chris #15,634 "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out."

18 October 2009, 10:57 PM	#5
nepod90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Land Posts: 133	I believe they are. I thought that I received the certificate with the box and papers. I'll have to dig out the box and confirm. __________________ Rolex GMT Batgirl 126710BLNR /// Rolex Yacht Master 116622 /// Panerai 312N

18 October 2009, 11:48 PM	#6
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	The 111 is COSC, as are the other Historic models with second hands. Not sure about the new in-house movements though. Cheers __________________

20 October 2009, 04:30 AM	#9
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	I'm pretty sure they don't come with COSC papers, but they are guaranteed by Panerai to operate within those specs. __________________ member#3242

18 October 2009, 04:10 AM	#2
CorruptedSanity Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Saif Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE Watch: AP Posts: 402	Add Panerai 312 to the list too please :)

18 October 2009, 09:39 PM	#4
CorruptedSanity Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Saif Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE Watch: AP Posts: 402	Chris, hard to say.

19 October 2009, 02:32 PM	#8
CorruptedSanity Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Saif Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE Watch: AP Posts: 402	I say hard to say because you almost know that Manifattura line should be COSC yet according to you they have not stated it anywhere. We know they need the COSC to effectively compete with other more popular brands.

20 October 2009, 05:24 AM	#10
lazarini "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 28	312 is cosc... L

20 October 2009, 08:28 AM	#11
c2tcardin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: NH Watch: Pam 312 & DJ II Posts: 312	The 312 is not actually sent off to COSC, it has an in-house version of testing which Panerai does for their own watches. If you look in your manual/book between pages 13 and 14 you will notice a un-numbered page glued in that has the movements testing results. This is of course for the 312, I'm not 100% sure of the others. __________________ Cheers, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------ PAM 312, DJ II

21 October 2009, 02:24 AM	#13
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Hmmm...Chris...My Man...You already seducted by the POWER of The DARKSIDE.

21 October 2009, 04:07 AM	#14
Cool Hand Luke Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 45	Yeah i'll second Jeff's post - from what i'm lead to believe the Manifattura models are tested in house by Panerai, these tests are equivalent or better than COSC according to Panerai.

22 October 2009, 12:11 AM	#16
c2tcardin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: NH Watch: Pam 312 & DJ II Posts: 312	I decided to snap a few pictures of the certification that is in the Panerai 312's booklet. Panerai tests their P-9000 movements to what they call CTMP certification. Here is a shot of page 12 in the booklet. This shot is of the next page which is unnumbered and shows the CTMP results and the date of the test. I like this one as it shows my 312 was tested on April 22, 2009 and I bought it in the US at my AD on May 23, 2009 and month later. Last observation of the CTMP certificate is that these two pages in the book are the only two with PANERAI written as a water mark in the paper. Hope this helps clear things up. __________________ Cheers, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------ PAM 312, DJ II

22 October 2009, 10:23 AM	#17
C. Davidson "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: WXSW Watch: GMT (116710) Posts: 2,723	Thank you very much Jeff!!! Thats really cool! __________________ -Cheers, Chris #15,634 "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out."

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