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Old 21 January 2020, 10:04 AM   #1
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Navitimer questions

I'm looking to buy my first breitling and I love the look of the navitimer. This would be my first high end watch. I have a gshock that i wear daily. I work in a hospital and things get knocked around in that environment lol. I see the water resistance is less than i expected. It would be nice to be able to swim with it but it's not a deal breaker. I had considered a rolex submariner or deep sea but those are just out of the budget particularly the deep sea.
My question is is it safe to shower with a navitimer? I imagine being caught in a heavy rain is a non issue but what about a shower?
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Old 21 January 2020, 11:31 AM   #2
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I'm looking to buy my first breitling and I love the look of the navitimer. This would be my first high end watch. I have a gshock that i wear daily. I work in a hospital and things get knocked around in that environment lol. I see the water resistance is less than i expected. It would be nice to be able to swim with it but it's not a deal breaker. I had considered a rolex submariner or deep sea but those are just out of the budget particularly the deep sea.
My question is is it safe to shower with a navitimer? I imagine being caught in a heavy rain is a non issue but what about a shower?
Generally no. Its not a very water resistant watch. However, its an all time classic and I would put it the number 2 most significant chono ever made (speedy 1, navi 2, el primero 3, daytona 4.
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Old 23 January 2020, 05:54 AM   #3
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I would not shower with my navi.. it has a croc strap!

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Old 24 January 2020, 04:30 AM   #4
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Even if you changed out to a rubber strap or bracelet, it's not WR enough for a shower or swimming. I don't shower with my watches, but I eventually sold my Navi 01 LE because of the low WR rating. An option if you do need to have the extra WR is the Sinn 903. That watch, especially on a bracelet, could easily go in the shower at 100m WR.
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Old 25 January 2020, 12:26 PM   #5
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Generally no. Its not a very water resistant watch. However, its an all time classic and I would put it the number 2 most significant chono ever made (speedy 1, navi 2, el primero 3, daytona 4.
The Navitimer's rated pressure is 3 Bars (B01 43 mm version). That's approximately 44 psi. That pressure equates to a depth of 100 ft in sea water. Is it safe to shower with? Yes.
I do this all the time. Make sure the crown is pushed in. You can swim in a pool as well without worry too. This is a choice you make. You're more likely to damage the Navi at the Hospital during normal activities there than defeat the water tight integrity of the Navitimer.
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Old 25 January 2020, 12:47 PM   #6
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The Navitimer's rated pressure is 3 Bars (B01 43 mm version). That's approximately 44 psi. That pressure equates to a depth of 100 ft in sea water. Is it safe to shower with? Yes.

I do this all the time. Make sure the crown is pushed in. You can swim in a pool as well without worry too. This is a choice you make. You're more likely to damage the Navi at the Hospital during normal activities there than defeat the water tight integrity of the Navitimer.


Sorry but that is wrong. Look up any explanation of what WR ratings mean (static conditions) and you’ll see 30m basically means splash resistant. Now you may have gotten away with it in a pool or shower, but it’s clearly not recommended.

https://www.prestigetime.com/page.php?waterresistance


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Old 25 January 2020, 01:11 PM   #7
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Sorry but that is wrong. Look up any explanation of what WR ratings mean (static conditions) and you’ll see 30m basically means splash resistant. Now you may have gotten away with it in a pool or shower, but it’s clearly not recommended.

https://www.prestigetime.com/page.php?waterresistance

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Plenty of watchmakers out there that will tell you with gaskets in good condition, watches are designed to perform to the depth they are rated for, and not some interpretation like 30m equating to barely safe to wash your hands with it on.

Yes there are some manufacturers out there like TAG, that in an effort to make selecting a watch idiot proof, have tied numeric ratings to activities like swimming etc, with most of the reputable swiss manufactures, 30 meters is 30 meters and so on.
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Old 25 January 2020, 11:12 PM   #8
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The Navitimer's rated pressure is 3 Bars (B01 43 mm version). That's approximately 44 psi. That pressure equates to a depth of 100 ft in sea water. Is it safe to shower with? Yes.

I do this all the time. Make sure the crown is pushed in. You can swim in a pool as well without worry too. This is a choice you make. You're more likely to damage the Navi at the Hospital during normal activities there than defeat the water tight integrity of the Navitimer.


Thats good to know. I never seen anyone wear them in the water, but if they can be it adds to the versatility-so long as it’s On a bracelet


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Old 25 January 2020, 11:25 PM   #9
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The Navitimer's rated pressure is 3 Bars (B01 43 mm version). That's approximately 44 psi. That pressure equates to a depth of 100 ft in sea water. Is it safe to shower with? Yes.

I do this all the time. Make sure the crown is pushed in. You can swim in a pool as well without worry too. This is a choice you make. You're more likely to damage the Navi at the Hospital during normal activities there than defeat the water tight integrity of the Navitimer.


Hold the phone. When I check breitling website, it indeed says 3 bars as you say, but then Says that splashing is ok, but not for shower, water skiing, or diving. Given the bezel mechanism and crystal are attached, it would be very difficult to make that water tight. Source: http://www.breitling.com/us-en/servi...er-resistance/

So if one does swim with it, they will not stand by the warranty and one would do so at their own risk.


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Not all water based activities are the same, but it is a static test. With a 3 Bar rating, I wouldn't shower with it. Here's what Breitling says about their WR ratings

https://www.breitling.com/us-en/serv...er-resistance/
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Old 28 January 2020, 03:54 AM   #11
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Sorry but that is wrong. Look up any explanation of what WR ratings mean (static conditions) and you’ll see 30m basically means splash resistant. Now you may have gotten away with it in a pool or shower, but it’s clearly not recommended.

https://www.prestigetime.com/page.php?waterresistance


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Lawyer speak to limit liability. If what you claim is true, then ALL watchmaker pressure ratings are meaningless. 3 Bars is equivalent to a depth of 100 feet of seawater or 44 psi. This is correct as stated. Prestige Time re-interpreting what is and isn't with regard to pressure ratings is not backed by any Engineering standards. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Old 28 January 2020, 06:57 AM   #12
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I guess regardless of wr rating, the owner can choose to do as he wishes.. I won't be showering with my navitimer

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