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5 April 2019, 04:56 AM | #1 |
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Hamilton Khaki Field Murph LE. NOT GREAT
I got this limited edition watch two days ago and the reflections off the crystal are horrible, No AR whatsoever., This is the watch from the movie INTERSTELLAR. $1000.... Hamilton support (part of the SWATCH GROUP) has been terrible and I'm not the first to see this problem. Now two days in and the crown is clicking. The wont sell me a new crystal or gasket to get ARed.
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5 April 2019, 05:16 AM | #2 |
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I'd rather have a shiny crystal than AR wearing off...
What do you mean with the 'crown is clicking' ? |
5 April 2019, 09:24 AM | #3 |
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When crown starts clicking it means the the clutch inside is going south.
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5 April 2019, 11:26 AM | #4 |
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Was it supposed to have AR?
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Thanks for your review.
I started a thread in the non-Rolex watch forum about this watch. The long lug to lug made for a borderline fit for me... The crunchy crown action is concerning. I also have no experience with Hamilton service. Cool box though. |
6 April 2019, 10:54 PM | #6 |
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I'm a watchmaker and I have no idea of what you're talking about...
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This watch is a simple time only movement...and brand new. Not sure what could go south so fast, but a crunchy sound is concerning nonetheless, no? |
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Correct, but a manual time only watch has no 'clutch'. And the clicking noise he is referring to could just be the mainspring slipping in the barrel when fully wound, or the click from the ratchet wheel. I suspect there is nothing wrong with the watch.
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That's why I reiterated it is a time-only piece. Maybe it's a loud clicker? At any rate, maybe a 40mm version will be quieter Nice box. Ooops, I said that. |
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I am sorry to hear you don't like it, the good thing is you can send it back for a full refund or flip it...
I got exactly the same watch with the Special Edition Box, and I love it. And I didn't even realize there was a reflection problem, to me it's the same as any of my Rolex watches...? I am actually personally very impressed by the build quality and it looks amazing on a NATO. It's truly a beautiful watch. I don't really like the leather strap, but I never wear straps anyway, except a NATO from time to time. I ordered the bracelet for it. The sound is normal for any new watches... |
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Yep, saw the video! Mayer has an amazing collection
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Not to hijack, but I like this one:
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Its an automatic movement H10 a variation of the 2824, I can't imagine the crown not having a clutch but I could be wrong and that would make sense as I find it hard to believe a crown could fail so quickly. As for the crystal since its domed it will reflect a lot more than a flat Rolex crystal but I would add this is hardly a Rolex quality crystal. The swatch group owns Omega. I received this Diver 300 the same day with fantastic AR.
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In anycase the Hamilton has been sent to a lab in Colorado for double AR coating.
So just for clarity you guys are saying a watch with no complications..such as DATE etc will have no clutch in the crown? |
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I was close to buying it's cousin the Khaki Field automatic... until I tried it on and could not get past the reflective quality of the domed sapphire crystal.
Deal breaker, at least for me. |
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My Khaki does not have AR. A little distracting at times, but not a deal breaker for me.
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I dont know why people insist on making excuses for a cheap crown and low quality strap. In any case the Crystal has double AR inside and out and it won't wear off, I have had watches ARd by the same guy in Colorado for 5 years and never a problem. The watch is an automatic and it disappoints me that people jump into tell me the watch has no clutch in the crown because its mechanical (Not self winding)
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1) Hamilton’s are inexpensive Swiss watches so AR coating is not part of the equation. Why you are comparing it to an omega that costs 5x as much?
2) Rolex doesn’t use glare coating either, but your Polar is a white dial so that mitigates the glare. Dark dial Rolex are just as glare prone as that Hamilton. For Rolex it isn’t cost cutting, it’s that people see the glare as bling and Rolex leaves crystal naked so they can show off. 3) I agree Hamilton Oem leather straps are pretty awful and unusable. At least this is 22mm. 4) The crown is clicking as you have wound it fully and the spring is made to slip in that case. Acts like a clutch, but it isn’t. |
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I like the watch for what it is. I am going to check it out when my AD gets one in and if it works I will ask for a significant discount and buy it. I don't think we should settle for watches but I also have learned to like my watches for what they are, not what I wish they were. The Hamilton straps are at best challenged but I have found with some wear they can be comfortable. I hope you get this sorted out to your liking as I think the pictures of the watch are great.
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This is wrong on many levels.... do you really think Rolex hasn’t put AR coating because people “want bling”? Is that even noticeable in an AD? Much more likely that Rolex (i) is tradition-bound, and (ii) has not found a way for AR coated crystals not to look like crap after a few years of abuse. |
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Once it is fully wound the mainspring will just slip inside the barrel to prevent it from breaking, therefore 'overwinding' is not possible on an automatic (and some manual wind movements have this as well). There is no clutch disengaging the crown. |
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I must admit though, the AR does make it look a lot better.
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James Dowling interview with Rolex executive. Will Rolex introduce AR coatings on the glass? "No, except on the cyclops; if AR coating is used the glass essentially disappears, this is not something Rolex wish to do. In all Rolex watches the glass is an integral part of the design of the watch, which is why it sits above the bezel". This comment has been universally accepted across many forums to mean that Rolex leaves the crystals naked because the shine off the crystal is what Rolex buyers want...so Rolex gives it to them. Were you unaware of this interview? |
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Thanks for the quote. Not sure I understand the connection between the crystal being an “integral part of the design” and customers wanting shine/“bling”, so that’s why there is no AR coating? |
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I think the comment given by Rolex that AR usage causes the glass to essentially disappear and this is not something Rolex wishes to do is Rolex speak for it isn't glare, but bedazzle.
They don't want the glass to disappear....so they want it to be seen..and being seen means reflecting light...which adds to a jewel like appearance...etc |
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On a related note, I had this Khaki Field piece for six weeks and loved it, until the barrel (?) came loose from the ... crown? Not sure as I'm not a watchmaker, but someone on here helped explain what they thought went wrong; it would run erratically (fine, randomly stop, etc), sound like it would wind and then made this weird 'unwind' sound ... all sorts of stuff. Thankfully got a refund. Really sucked though, 'cause it was a great piece and super accurate. May get another yet. Sorry to hear you're not happy with yours, OP. |
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