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dbhak22 · 22 November 2017, 03:24 AM

Seventh edition of the "VERSUS" post/picture. What is "VERSUS"? Well, I thought it would be fun to compare two watches (and only those two watches) and discuss pros/cons by outlining the differences and getting folks' ideas/thoughts/opinions on TRF. We got folks here that have been collecting and studying these things for decades all the way to those who are just starting to venture into the crazy world of Rolex (and everyone in between). Therefore, it would be fun and educational!

For this edition, we have a showdown of vintage Subs. The classic 5513 and its brother with a date feature, the 1680.

Which do you prefer and why?

Previous VERSUS:
1. VERSUS: Submariner 1680 v. 16610
2. VERSUS: Rolex Submariner and Sea-Dweller 16610LV and 126600
3. VERSUS: Rolex Submariner 16610s
4. VERSUS: Sea (Deepsea 116660) to Sky (Explorer 1016)
5. VERSUS: Submariners Vintage and Modern
6. VERSUS: Datejusts with Unique Dials

Mick8moses · 22 November 2017, 03:28 AM

5513 no question.
To me the uncluttered, balanced dial says it all.
I really prefer a sub without a date.

SevenWays · 22 November 2017, 03:32 AM

5513, same reason. Uncluttered.

What I so love about Rolex is that there is such continuity in design over decades. A Sub is still recognizable as a Sub decades later.

R!$ · 22 November 2017, 03:42 AM

5513, hands down

jdmi32 · 22 November 2017, 03:56 AM

Love them both but I prefer the 5513.

SeaDweller50 · 22 November 2017, 03:58 AM

5513 for me.

05carbondrz · 22 November 2017, 05:06 AM

5513 but it has to be a maxi Dial.

Gerry62 · 22 November 2017, 05:14 AM

5513

classic Sub dial very clean (2 linee) and simple. immediate and easy reading

MJK737 · 22 November 2017, 05:17 AM

5513 for me. Classic and clean.

Colin10101 · 22 November 2017, 05:25 AM

1680! I love the look of the cyclops on the acrylic... it seems to magnify even more.

stevedssd · 22 November 2017, 05:27 AM

This one is difficult for me........I love the 1680's Top Hat but the two-lines of the 5513 wins but only just

sensui · 22 November 2017, 05:39 AM

5513 for me, particularly the maxi case and especially mk3.

AK797 · 22 November 2017, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmi32

Love them both but I prefer the 5513.

I would try hard for a red sub with nice patina, metres first would be (expensive) icing on the cake.

polowatch · 22 November 2017, 07:40 AM

they both look great but would go with the 5513.

ROGERB · 22 November 2017, 08:37 AM

5513

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Nikrnic · 22 November 2017, 09:00 AM

No date all the way. I could never get over the cyclops. I think it takes the pretty away.

Grandcrew · 22 November 2017, 09:07 AM

Ideal preference: 5513; dive watch. Practical preference: 1680; I don't dive and never seem to know the date.

Nycturbovr6 · 22 November 2017, 02:48 PM

I love the 1680. Beautiful watch

Old Expat Beast · 22 November 2017, 03:14 PM

The 5513. A classic design that was produced concurrently with four consecutive Sub Date references.

mailman · 22 November 2017, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick8moses

5513 no question.
To me the uncluttered, balanced dial says it all.
I really prefer a sub without a date.

Right on

mattedialdoc · 28 November 2017, 03:03 PM

5513--Meters First over Maxi any day of da week!

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1675-David · 28 November 2017, 05:19 PM

Go to say, 1680!

ILuvSubs · 28 November 2017, 05:19 PM

Matte dial 5513. The symmetry! And also the Bond watch!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-watch-auction

sfc rick · 28 November 2017, 09:59 PM

I never liked a watch without the date feature, seems I need to tell time a lot and check the date frequently. So it's always a 1680 for me. The cyclops seals the deal as the iconic feature of a "top hat" crystal. But alas I'm also the owner of a 1680 so that tends to give me a bias towards the 1680.

brandrea · 28 November 2017, 10:02 PM

I'm firmly in the 5513 camp too.

cpefy3 · 28 November 2017, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmi32

Love them both but I prefer the 5513.

Those are beautiful examples of both!!

5513 for me too

betterwatchit · 29 November 2017, 12:50 AM

5513 for all the same reasons: classic, simple design, uncluttered ...

Jinfu · 29 November 2017, 02:07 AM

5513,

eton97 · 29 November 2017, 04:41 AM

Going to have to be a 5513 maxi mk1 for me...Clean, symmetrical and those fat lumes

Ghost1665 · 29 November 2017, 05:00 AM

Surprised to see the overwhelming majority here preferring the 5513 given the recent rise in 1680 popularity. I think the sticker shock of red 1680’s is pushing some toward white 1680’s. That said, I also lean toward the 5513 for the 2 line simplicity.

22 November 2017, 03:24 AM	#1
dbhak22 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: PNW Watch: ♛ Posts: 2,958	VERSUS: Vintage Submariners Seventh edition of the "VERSUS" post/picture. What is "VERSUS"? Well, I thought it would be fun to compare two watches (and only those two watches) and discuss pros/cons by outlining the differences and getting folks' ideas/thoughts/opinions on TRF. We got folks here that have been collecting and studying these things for decades all the way to those who are just starting to venture into the crazy world of Rolex (and everyone in between). Therefore, it would be fun and educational! For this edition, we have a showdown of vintage Subs. The classic 5513 and its brother with a date feature, the 1680. Which do you prefer and why? Previous VERSUS: 1. VERSUS: Submariner 1680 v. 16610 2. VERSUS: Rolex Submariner and Sea-Dweller 16610LV and 126600 3. VERSUS: Rolex Submariner 16610s 4. VERSUS: Sea (Deepsea 116660) to Sky (Explorer 1016) 5. VERSUS: Submariners Vintage and Modern 6. VERSUS: Datejusts with Unique Dials __________________ GMT II (16710) \| Explorer I (1016) \| Datejust I (116234) \| Submariner (1680) \| Day-Date (1803) \| Royal Oak (25594) \| FOIS (2998 spec) \| Submariner (16808)

22 November 2017, 05:14 AM	#8
Gerry62 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Italy Watch: Rolex Panerai Posts: 7,127	5513 classic Sub dial very clean (2 linee) and simple. immediate and easy reading __________________

22 November 2017, 05:17 AM	#9
MJK737 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AZ Watch: This, Hold my Beer Posts: 369	5513 for me. Classic and clean. __________________ Regards: MJK

22 November 2017, 05:25 AM	#10
Colin10101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Colin Location: Toronto Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,336	1680! I love the look of the cyclops on the acrylic... it seems to magnify even more. __________________ Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 "Z" Serial COKE Montblanc 1858 Iced Sea *BLACK*

22 November 2017, 09:00 AM	#16
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,158	Less is more. . No date all the way. I could never get over the cyclops. I think it takes the pretty away.

22 November 2017, 03:28 AM	#2
Mick8moses "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Mick Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,523	5513 no question. To me the uncluttered, balanced dial says it all. I really prefer a sub without a date.

22 November 2017, 03:32 AM	#3
SevenWays "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: USA Watch: Exp1 Posts: 174	5513, same reason. Uncluttered. What I so love about Rolex is that there is such continuity in design over decades. A Sub is still recognizable as a Sub decades later.

22 November 2017, 03:42 AM	#4
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	5513, hands down

22 November 2017, 03:58 AM	#6
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	5513 for me.

22 November 2017, 05:06 AM	#7
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	5513 but it has to be a maxi Dial.

22 November 2017, 05:27 AM	#11
stevedssd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,205	This one is difficult for me........I love the 1680's Top Hat but the two-lines of the 5513 wins but only just

22 November 2017, 05:39 AM	#12
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,356	5513 for me, particularly the maxi case and especially mk3.

22 November 2017, 07:40 AM	#14
polowatch Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: US Posts: 44	they both look great but would go with the 5513.

22 November 2017, 08:37 AM	#15
ROGERB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: WHITE ROCK BC Watch: 89 16610, 57 7914, Posts: 897	5513 R

22 November 2017, 09:07 AM	#17
Grandcrew Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: In Da States! Posts: 129	Ideal preference: 5513; dive watch. Practical preference: 1680; I don't dive and never seem to know the date.

22 November 2017, 02:48 PM	#18
Nycturbovr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Posts: 7,630	I love the 1680. Beautiful watch

22 November 2017, 03:14 PM	#19
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,356	The 5513. A classic design that was produced concurrently with four consecutive Sub Date references.

28 November 2017, 03:03 PM	#21
mattedialdoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,002	5513--Meters First over Maxi any day of da week! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 November 2017, 05:19 PM	#22
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,010	Go to say, 1680!

28 November 2017, 05:19 PM	#23
ILuvSubs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,005	Matte dial 5513. The symmetry! And also the Bond watch! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-watch-auction

28 November 2017, 09:59 PM	#24
sfc rick "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Rickey Higgins Location: Huntington, TX Watch: 1680 Sub in white Posts: 354	I never liked a watch without the date feature, seems I need to tell time a lot and check the date frequently. So it's always a 1680 for me. The cyclops seals the deal as the iconic feature of a "top hat" crystal. But alas I'm also the owner of a 1680 so that tends to give me a bias towards the 1680.

28 November 2017, 10:02 PM	#25
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,587	I'm firmly in the 5513 camp too.

29 November 2017, 12:50 AM	#27
betterwatchit "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: U.K. & Switzerlan Posts: 206	5513 for all the same reasons: classic, simple design, uncluttered ...

29 November 2017, 02:07 AM	#28
Jinfu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Us Posts: 57	5513,

29 November 2017, 04:41 AM	#29
eton97 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London, UK Watch: DRSD, 1675, 5167a Posts: 243	Going to have to be a 5513 maxi mk1 for me...Clean, symmetrical and those fat lumes

29 November 2017, 05:00 AM	#30
Ghost1665 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Aaron Location: Columbus, Ohio Watch: 1979 Ref. 1665 mk1 Posts: 43	Surprised to see the overwhelming majority here preferring the 5513 given the recent rise in 1680 popularity. I think the sticker shock of red 1680’s is pushing some toward white 1680’s. That said, I also lean toward the 5513 for the 2 line simplicity.

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