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Old 21 November 2017, 07:18 AM   #31
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Both look pretty good though. Of course the DJ has never been considered a tool or sport watch
I guess I don't really consider the SkyD to be a tool watch either. Definitely more of a hybrid sport watch.
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Old 21 November 2017, 07:29 AM   #32
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I don't think this at all and would be very surprised if anyone else really did. What is the reasoning for it being called a fake?
When I saw the new Sky-dweller in person it looked fake to me, even though it was real. I was never a fan of the SD and I would consider the new stainless model in blue. I also like the rose gold SD with the leather band in rose gold or if the dial is all one color, not outlined.
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Old 21 November 2017, 08:05 AM   #33
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I just think the fluted bezel on the Sky Dweller looks out of place. The dial and bracelet shout sport/tool watch to me so the bezel just seems wrong. Anyone else feel like this? If you own one I am not trying to offend. Thoughts...
Yes and no.

You seem like a bit of a purist and perhaps you would only approve of a Smooth bezel paired with the Oyster bracelet and the Fluted bezel paired with the Jubilee bracelet.

I reconcile the somewhat awkward appearance of the Skydweller by taking into account the fact that for the very first time, a Fluted bezel is a functional component of the mechanism and is very well served by the fluting.
The other thing I have trouble with is the end links on the current offering of the Jubilee bracelet as they are on the DJ41 because look somewhat disjointed and not very well integrated. It appears to me like they are a just bit of round bar shoved in there that just needs a little contouring out to the ends to better marry them into the case jugs. More or less to resemble the older pressed end links.

Hint.
Perhaps Rolex could bring out a Jubilee bracelet for the Skydweller with the above styling suggestions for the ends links.
Basel 2018 perhaps?
This would help me fall hopelessly in love with a watch for the very first time in my life and even motivate me to go PM if necessary
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Old 21 November 2017, 08:06 AM   #34
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I guess I don't really consider the SkyD to be a tool watch either. Definitely more of a hybrid sport watch.
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Old 21 November 2017, 08:07 AM   #35
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One of the reasons I'm looking forward to the SkyD is the fluted bezel. Love the way it plays with light.

Do you think the fluted bezel also looks out of place on the DJ41?

Yes, it is disproportionate.
looks like someone said:
"Lets make the watch 5mm bigger and not change the size of the dial."

I was never a fan of the fluted bezel, that just made it 5mm uglier for me.
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Old 21 November 2017, 08:15 AM   #36
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Yes and no.

You seem like a bit of a purist and perhaps you would only approve of a Smooth bezel paired with the Oyster bracelet and the Fluted bezel paired with the Jubilee bracelet.

I reconcile the somewhat awkward appearance of the Skydweller by taking into account the fact that for the very first time, a Fluted bezel is a functional component of the mechanism and is very well served by the fluting.
The other thing I have trouble with is the end links on the current offering of the Jubilee bracelet as they are on the DJ41 because look somewhat disjointed and not very well integrated. It appears to me like they are a just bit of round bar shoved in there that just needs a little contouring out to the ends to better marry them into the case jugs. More or less to resemble the older pressed end links.

Hint.
Perhaps Rolex could bring out a Jubilee bracelet for the Skydweller with the above styling suggestions for the ends links.
Basel 2018 perhaps?
This would help me fall hopelessly in love with a watch for the very first time in my life and even motivate me to go PM if necessary
I agree with several of your points and YES I think you jubilee idea would be awesome
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Old 21 November 2017, 08:17 AM   #37
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Yes
In PM it works because the numerals on the dial of the PM models help to marry the fluted bezel into the style of the watch overall and the polished centre links go well.

We must also keep in mind the styling was originally configured this way.
It's starting to look a little disconnected now with the luminous stick markers and hands.
It's a bit like a Yawl. It's not fish nor fowl
But it's still nice. Just not perfect yet.
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Old 21 November 2017, 08:51 AM   #38
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I love the bezel especially on a Datejust with silver or rhodium face
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Old 21 November 2017, 09:02 AM   #39
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I like it a lot. The fluted bezel is such an iconic look for their watches that it would seem odd to me if the bezel were smooth.

I’m not a brand historian, but does Rolex make any models with a date and non functioning bezel that lack fluting? The only smooth bezeled watches I can think of lack a date. I know you can get datejusts and DD’s with a smooth bezel, but traditionally they’re fluted.
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Old 21 November 2017, 10:15 AM   #40
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I just think the fluted bezel on the Sky Dweller looks out of place. The dial and bracelet shout sport/tool watch to me so the bezel just seems wrong. Anyone else feel like this? If you own one I am not trying to offend. Thoughts...
This might offer some explanation as to the purpose and the significance of the fluted bezel.

https://www.rolex.com/watches/rolex-...p.HQAOU7355s9l
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Old 21 November 2017, 10:49 AM   #41
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I love the fluted bezel, it's adds a certain amount of panache to the watch. The way it catches the light is amazing almost like the ap bracelets. I think it's perfect for travelers who want the 2 time zone feature and not travel w a watch for every occasion. Perfect in a suit and just as perfect by the pool. The added bonus is an annual calendar. If one really wanted a "tool bezel" then there's the gmt, getting that will save one several grand as well.
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Old 21 November 2017, 11:24 AM   #42
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Both look pretty good though. Of course the DJ has never been considered a tool or sport watch
It has... by Rolex themselves. The DJ is more sporty than dressy, as are all Rolexes save the Cellini line.
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Old 21 November 2017, 02:01 PM   #43
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Even though the watch is real, the dial makes the watch look fake. This is why I went with the brother to the Sky-Dweller, which is the YM2 YG 116688. I am not going to go around telling everyone my watch is real and keep the Rolex card in my wallet either. I do care if others think my watch is fake, because having a fake watch is calling me fake. Maybe as it gets older it looks better.
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Old 21 November 2017, 03:24 PM   #44
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The fluted bezel works for me.
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Old 22 November 2017, 04:35 AM   #45
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It has... by Rolex themselves. The DJ is more sporty than dressy, as are all Rolexes save the Cellini line.
Oh lord I recall the Rolex dress watch thread a few weeks ago. Lets not open up that can of worms again. It reminded me of Bill Clinton and it depends on what "is" is
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Old 22 November 2017, 06:06 AM   #46
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I think it’s fine.
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Old 22 November 2017, 07:13 AM   #47
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Oh lord I recall the Rolex dress watch thread a few weeks ago. Lets not open up that can of worms again. It reminded me of Bill Clinton and it depends on what "is" is
I did an internship at a law firm and they spent half an hour debating on where to put a comma. I was outta there.
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Old 22 November 2017, 07:26 AM   #48
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I did an internship at a law firm and they spent half an hour debating on where to put a comma. I was outta there.
It's ok.

It's all chargeable win, loose or draw and at their hourly rate it's all good.
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Old 22 November 2017, 07:28 AM   #49
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Oh lord I recall the Rolex dress watch thread a few weeks ago. Lets not open up that can of worms again. It reminded me of Bill Clinton and it depends on what "is" is
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Old 22 November 2017, 07:32 AM   #50
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This might offer some explanation as to the purpose and the significance of the fluted bezel.

https://www.rolex.com/watches/rolex-...p.HQAOU7355s9l
Excellent
That puts everything surrounding the fluted bezel totally into perspective
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Old 22 November 2017, 07:59 AM   #51
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It's ok.

It's all chargeable win, loose or draw and at their hourly rate it's all good.
If only the clients had a spycam...
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Old 22 November 2017, 09:50 AM   #52
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I dunno - the Sky Dweller looks like a DD to me, just with a dial complication.

A daydate?

really?? Looks more like a Datejust to me with a dial complication.
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Old 22 November 2017, 10:11 AM   #53
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Sky Dweller still looks Amazing though.
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Disagree. I can’t wait to get my hands on one after the new year. Someone did a mock-up of the SkyD on Jubilee and Super Jubilee next to the oyster. It just gets too busy on anything but the Oyster IMO. And caring if someone thinks it looks fake is like caring if someone thinks my car is not a Honda. Woof.
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I just think the fluted bezel on the Sky Dweller looks out of place. The dial and bracelet shout sport/tool watch to me so the bezel just seems wrong. Anyone else feel like this? If you own one I am not trying to offend. Thoughts...
Do you not understand that the function of the bezel on the Sky D is to allow changes in what the crown modifies? It's an elegant design.

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I wish I was handy with photoshop, Id love to see how it looks with a GMT ish bezel..
This would be almost like adding a blue red insert to a sub. It would have no meaning. There's no 24 hour hand, the bezel only has four positions that it can turn to. It would be like adding an escalator to an out house.

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Thinking beyond the aesthetics, the bezel rotates, so the fluted bezel has a function: to provide grip.
More so the bezel alters the function of the crown allowing it to modify the hours, 24 hours, and month. The GMT and Sub bezel rotate but they don't interact with the watch mechanism. I think this is what you were alluding to but perhaps didn't state it.

There have been way too many inputs about the watch from people who don't even know how the watch works. My favorite has been the question as to the value of showing the month. Hard to set an annual calendar without this function.
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There have been way too many inputs about the watch from people who don't even know how the watch works.
It is true, and interesting to note, that many members don't give a hoot about function and care only about size, font, dial, and bezel colors, the nebulous "Wow" factor, and of course the coronet and the name Rolex on the dial.
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Old 22 November 2017, 10:30 PM   #57
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I did an internship at a law firm and they spent half an hour debating on where to put a comma. I was outta there.
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I was 19 so the £150 each that those two old boys made for comma-gate would have come in very useful, could have fed and beer-ed me for a month at Uni.
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[QUOTE=HogwldFLTR;8058178]Do you not understand that the function of the bezel on the Sky D is to allow changes in what the crown modifies? It's an elegant design.

Yes I sure do, I simply said I didnt like it. Remember, this is an opinion, you say it looks elegant, I say it looks out of place on this particular watch. This is not a right or wrong thing.
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This would be almost like adding a blue red insert to a sub. It would have no meaning. There's no 24 hour hand, the bezel only has four positions that it can turn to. It would be like adding an escalator to an out house.

I said a GMT ISH bezel. In other words that style of bezel not the exact bezel
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