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bob-e · 2 April 2011, 10:06 AM

Let me fill you in on my thought process of the big 3 battle (3570, 3572, 3573):
I've read all the debates and after viewing hesalite vs sapphire today, understand all sides now which makes it even more difficult.

I can definitely see what the allure of the hesalite is and it's not just for "moon watch purists". The dome and the the light cast from it are beautiful. BUT, I was surprised how close the sapphire was. Not completely night and day IMO. Also, the sapphire back was not as much of a deal breaker as I thought it would be. The movement is beautiful, but with the bracelet on, the field of view of it is not that great. (looks so much cooler on the internet ;)

So my final answer is... The 3572.50, because it is discontinued and very desirable for good reason--it's simply the best imo. Second would be a new hesalite 3570 and third would be a new sapphire sandwich.

If I bought a used speedy with unknown service should I immediately service it? (on a 3572 it would be at least 9 years old) Do you guys service at regular intervals or let them run until there's a problem? What's the cost of a sapphire crystal vs hesalite? (I'm not so concerned with little scratches, but I have gouged a crystal before)

Thanks for all your help in the threads I've already been through and the info on where to pick up this piece. I'm so close to pulling the trigger I can taste it.

dddrees · 2 April 2011, 10:16 AM

Being a new saphire sandwich owner I don't really have the answers you are looking for, however I am sure someone will be along soon. Good luck with your hunt.

Kapture1 · 2 April 2011, 10:21 AM

I have the 3570, so all you are going to get is bias from me.

If I were to purchase a 9 year old speedy, I would prob wear it for a few months, and when I felt I could part with it, send it off for service. ESP if it's running good and keeping time.

jmsrolls · 2 April 2011, 10:33 AM

The 3572.50 is my favorite of the modern Speedy Pros.

If it seems to be running steadily, I would probably hold off on service.

Fr. John†

nyyankees · 2 April 2011, 12:00 PM

I just had the same decision to make and went with a newer hesalite I really like the manual wind And the crystal and I don't have to worry about a service any time soon.

Watch Professor · 2 April 2011, 01:39 PM

I have the 3570. In my opinion, it is the best looking of the three.

TonyPhilly · 7 April 2011, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob-e

What's the cost of a sapphire crystal vs hesalite? (I'm not so concerned with little scratches, but I have gouged a crystal before)
:

A quick google seems to result in ~150USD for sapphire, and 30USD for hesalite.

jmsrolls · 7 April 2011, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyPhilly

A quick google seems to result in ~150USD for sapphire, and 30USD for hesalite.

Replacing a shattered sapphire crystal usually requires complete disassembly and servicing of the movement to eliminate the risk of crystal shards in the movement. This adds to the cost of replacing a sapphire crystal.

Fr. John†

TonyPhilly · 8 April 2011, 04:47 PM

Good point ^^

I remember reading that the first thing to do in the case of a crystal break is pull the crown to stop the movement, thus preventing crystal fragments from disturbing the movement. However, with the speedmaster (at least the 1861) there is no stop second mechanism, so I guess you just hope no crystal shards get into the mechanism. Unless you get a hesalite

2 April 2011, 10:06 AM	#1
bob-e "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: GMTII-C Location: Nashville, TN Watch: GSAR,Omega 3572.50 Posts: 68	speedmaster service and more "which speedy pro" discussion Let me fill you in on my thought process of the big 3 battle (3570, 3572, 3573): I've read all the debates and after viewing hesalite vs sapphire today, understand all sides now which makes it even more difficult. I can definitely see what the allure of the hesalite is and it's not just for "moon watch purists". The dome and the the light cast from it are beautiful. BUT, I was surprised how close the sapphire was. Not completely night and day IMO. Also, the sapphire back was not as much of a deal breaker as I thought it would be. The movement is beautiful, but with the bracelet on, the field of view of it is not that great. (looks so much cooler on the internet ;) So my final answer is... The 3572.50, because it is discontinued and very desirable for good reason--it's simply the best imo. Second would be a new hesalite 3570 and third would be a new sapphire sandwich. If I bought a used speedy with unknown service should I immediately service it? (on a 3572 it would be at least 9 years old) Do you guys service at regular intervals or let them run until there's a problem? What's the cost of a sapphire crystal vs hesalite? (I'm not so concerned with little scratches, but I have gouged a crystal before) Thanks for all your help in the threads I've already been through and the info on where to pick up this piece. I'm so close to pulling the trigger I can taste it.

2 April 2011, 10:16 AM	#2
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	Being a new saphire sandwich owner I don't really have the answers you are looking for, however I am sure someone will be along soon. Good luck with your hunt. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

2 April 2011, 10:21 AM	#3
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	I have the 3570, so all you are going to get is bias from me. If I were to purchase a 9 year old speedy, I would prob wear it for a few months, and when I felt I could part with it, send it off for service. ESP if it's running good and keeping time. __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

2 April 2011, 01:39 PM	#6
Watch Professor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Myron Location: New York Watch: GMT IIC; Sub Date Posts: 3,166	I have the 3570. In my opinion, it is the best looking of the three. __________________

2 April 2011, 10:33 AM	#4
jmsrolls Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,185	The 3572.50 is my favorite of the modern Speedy Pros. If it seems to be running steadily, I would probably hold off on service. Fr. John†

2 April 2011, 12:00 PM	#5
nyyankees "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southeastern PA Watch: 1216610 Posts: 2,131	I just had the same decision to make and went with a newer hesalite I really like the manual wind And the crystal and I don't have to worry about a service any time soon.

8 April 2011, 04:47 PM	#9
TonyPhilly "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 18	Good point ^^ I remember reading that the first thing to do in the case of a crystal break is pull the crown to stop the movement, thus preventing crystal fragments from disturbing the movement. However, with the speedmaster (at least the 1861) there is no stop second mechanism, so I guess you just hope no crystal shards get into the mechanism. Unless you get a hesalite

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