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Old 19 May 2013, 10:31 PM   #1
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Rolex 1675 Year 1967

Hi together :-)

I live in switzerland an im a real Rolex fanatical.... !!

im looking to buy this watch....

Whar are you thinking about this 1675? The Dealer ask 12'000 USD.
COmplete with box an certificate from 1967 !!

Many thanks

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Old 19 May 2013, 10:38 PM   #2
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Hi and welcome, you'll find the GMT experts coming soon but shouldn't 1967 be a gilt dial?
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:09 PM   #3
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Hi and welcome, you'll find the GMT experts coming soon but shouldn't 1967 be a gilt dial?
Not if the case back says '67. Most likely should be early white-matte dial as this one is. SNs are not always reliable. There also may be some overlap in this period.
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:10 PM   #4
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Not if the case back says '67. Most likely should be early white-matte dial as this one is. SNs are not always reliable. There also may be some overlap in this period.
Thanks Adam, was under the impression that white matte dials came in from 1968. I remember I read it on doubleredseadweller.com,

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Finally, from around 1968 until the end of the 1675 reference (ca. early 1980's), the GMT-Master featured a matte dial with white printing and a large-arrow 24hr/GMT hand. From the early 1970's on, the customer could also choose between the original blue-red "Pepsi" bezel insert and a new, all-black version
http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/w...f-the-gmt.html

To the OP, do post the serial number i.e the first few digits of it!
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:11 PM   #5
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I think gilt stopped around '65-'66......$12000 seems a bit steep don't you think For a 1967 with box n papers?....happy hunting
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:32 PM   #6
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If you are sure its a 1967 then imho the dial is a latter service dial and the date wheel also looks like a white service 1 to me. Matte dials IMHO started transitioning in the 1675 around 1.63 million serial range. As for the price its a bit high for me. I have sold recently watches like this (with service parts) without papers for $3500-$5000 USD and with papers (with service parts) for $5-6k usd. Condition, period correct parts, and accessories to name a few things all play a part in the value of a vintage Rolex watch.
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:49 PM   #7
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Can you get the first three digits of the Serial Number.

Price is ridiculous! Nick "Greekbum" is spot on the price, I would cut this price in half!

As others have mentioned, dial, hands, date wheel not original to this watch.

It could have been a gilt, depending on serial and may have had the small arrow as well.
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:51 PM   #8
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I'm not a GMT expert, but as far as I know, 1967 (serial 1.6 to 1.8) had both gilt and matte dials. However, first generation of matte dials does not match the one in the scan. Thus I agree, what ever the original dial was, this one is probably a service dial (and probably hands, since patina matches well).

$12K is way way too much for this watch. $5 to $6 is more like it, and even that is kinda high with a service dial.
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:53 PM   #9
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Hi together, thanks for helping

Case number : 1399xxxx
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Old 20 May 2013, 12:08 AM   #10
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Case number : 1399xxxx
IMHO 1965-66. This watch would have left the Rolex factory with a different dial (Gilt), hand set (with small arrow 24 hour gmt hand), date wheel and bezel insert (fatter different font style) than what is currently shown in the watch.
If all original than 12k would be a within its price range but its not and the parts needed to make it correct are hard to find and also expensive.
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Old 20 May 2013, 12:28 AM   #11
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Cost is WAY too much!
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Old 20 May 2013, 12:58 AM   #12
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Old 20 May 2013, 02:16 AM   #13
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12k too much for that
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Old 20 May 2013, 02:51 AM   #14
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The dial has been replaced as well as the insert. I would think that this originally came with a gilt dial which are expensive if you can find one. (The first generation white dial (Mark 1) introduced around 1967/68 are less expensive than the gilt dials.) The price is rather substantial - even with box and papers.
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Old 20 May 2013, 03:38 AM   #15
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Hi mr greekbum, could you say me
Whats the price for this items to do the watch perfect ?
The small hand
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Old 20 May 2013, 04:04 AM   #16
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$12K is pricey if gilt with everything. You are comfortably in Pointed Crown Guard territory at that price.
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Old 20 May 2013, 04:47 AM   #17
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Hi mr greekbum, could you say me
Whats the price for this items to do the watch perfect ?
The small hand
Bezel
Date

ThAnk you
Since you asked me :
To make the watch as it came from Rolex you will IMHO need the following. Perfect for me it will need more as the case has been polished to much for a 5 star watch for me and the bracelet end link looks bent or? But the watch as shown is a nice wearable 1675 just way over priced for what it is. Keep in mind the cost to change them and a service etc if needed while its apart.
Below is what I see the market bringing for the following parts.

Dial $2500-$3500 for a nice non chapter ring gilt dial
Hand set with small 24 hour hand $750-$1000
Bezel Insert $350-$600
Date wheel $175-$300
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Old 20 May 2013, 05:05 AM   #18
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+1. Forget about this watch. Grossly overpriced.
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Old 20 May 2013, 05:17 AM   #19
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Ok, so i dont take this watch!
But why is the bezel not original ?
And the dial is gilt , or not ?
Im looking for an other one .
If you see one, let me know ....
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Ok, so i dont take this watch!
But why is the bezel not original ?
And the dial is gilt , or not ?
Im looking for an other one .
If you see one, let me know ....
The bezel insert is an original Rolex replacement insert. The originals back during 1967 had a much fatter font. I wouldn't lose any sleep over a Rolex bezel insert since most have been replaced at one time or another.
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Old 20 May 2013, 06:31 AM   #21
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If you are willing to spend 12k on a 1675 you can find a wonderful example...
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my father in law's GMT is a 1966 non-pointed crown guard, gilt dial, small arrow 1675 on an oyster bracelet, and it's worth somewhere between $7-10k, i've been told here on TRF, and he has the original box and hangtags. so $12k seems a lot for this 1675.

but then switzerland is very expensive, so who knows.
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Old 20 May 2013, 04:05 PM   #23
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Way too high - double too high. You can find one for about $6,000
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Old 21 May 2013, 07:41 PM   #24
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I don't think 12k is even close to being reasonable. I don't know what is making that watch so expensive from the picts you are showing me... I would pass on it.
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I also think it is too expensive. As many mentioned, 5-6K range sounds reasonable for this fine timepiece.

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Old 21 May 2013, 10:34 PM   #26
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$7k is about right for a box and papered 1675 like this one...

it's nice, but not super nice
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Old 22 May 2013, 08:49 AM   #27
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I saw a 1966 GMT 1675 small pointer with an awesome dial and hands at Jackroads in Tokyo yesterday for 1,270,000 yen or about 12,700 usd. 12k seems high for this 1675, I would pass.
Cheers and good luck hunting a proper 12k GMT.
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Seen nice Red Sub's for at least that price. But who am I to say. Good luck on what ever you decide to pick up.
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