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bodybump · 20 April 2009, 08:36 AM

Well my question is..is buying a panerai watch same as buying a Rolex that warranty card or authenticity papers are that important? There is a store selling a panerai but they are selling the watch only..is it that safe and selling a pam without papers will be easy? Would I be able to sell the watch without papers easy if I need too?

GBJIV · 20 April 2009, 09:01 AM

Oscar, My opinion is that it is a similar situation to Rolex. From selling, to service to just plain authenticity.

You can of course sell it - Might need to have an AD authenticate or prove you bought it somewhere reputable.

High dollar item... The buyer will probably want proof. Although, PAM is not as often copied as Rolex probably. I am sure the fake market is alive and well...

Launch Mini · 20 April 2009, 09:31 AM

With Panerai, the triple boxes are very important. ( Outer cardboard, inner black and the pear wood box).
If you watch the sales boards, they almost always list "3 boxes included". They can be replaced, but will cost you $$ and without them , resale of you watch will be that much harder & cheaper than one with all the goodies.

bodybump · 20 April 2009, 09:43 AM

But how about without papers? Because from time to time there are people selling the boxes..are all pam boxes the same? Or boxes correspond to watches..because i know that Rolex at the buttom of the box correspond certain model although they all look the same..$3800 for a pam 88 watch only is a good price?

TonyD · 20 April 2009, 10:34 AM

$3800 is a steal for an 88. So much so that I question it considerably, even without papers etc it should be much more I think.

dra44 · 20 April 2009, 10:40 AM

What year is the watch? I believe that if the watch is less than 5 years old, you can contact Panerai and have the papers re-issued. As far as the box goes, I would keep checking on paneristi.com, they come up regularly for around $275-$300. While $3800 is a good price for a PAM88almost too good. What would worry me is whether or not the watch may have been stolen at one point. I'm not saying that the dealer even would know, but if you send it in for service, and the SN# comes up as stolen, you're out of luck.

WatchTimes · 20 April 2009, 10:40 AM

Something isn't right for an 88 at that price...

Where are you buying this from?

hflee55 · 20 April 2009, 11:19 AM

Papers as proof of authenticity is just as important. You can also have it verified at panerai's service centres. the price you're getting for the 88 just seems too good to be true. have it checked out if i were you.

bodybump · 20 April 2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dra44

What year is the watch? I believe that if the watch is less than 5 years old, you can contact Panerai and have the papers re-issued. As far as the box goes, I would keep checking on paneristi.com, they come up regularly for around $275-$300. While $3800 is a good price for a PAM88almost too good. What would worry me is whether or not the watch may have been stolen at one point. I'm not saying that the dealer even would know, but if you send it in for service, and the SN# comes up as stolen, you're out of luck.

its an I..so i believe its 2007?

bodybump · 20 April 2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JYogi

Something isn't right for an 88 at that price...

Where are you buying this from?

yes... but yogi...its only the watch...watch and the original rubber strap...nothing else... I series..

bodybump · 20 April 2009, 01:04 PM

Here is the photos guys...its from an art gallery...

dra44 · 20 April 2009, 02:34 PM

From the Panerai website, "In case of loss, a COSC duplicate will cost € 35,00 if your watch is not older than 5 years. If the watch is older than 5 years, it is necessary to carry out a complete overhaul at one of our After Sales Service Centres. Our technicians will then send the watch to the COSC Centre where the watch will be tested before issuing a new certificate." I would make the dealer do this for you just to be on the safe side. It's not quite as good as having a full triple box set, but it's a start.

If you are planning on keeping the watch, it sounds like a deal that's too good to pass up, however if you are going to flip it, you're going to have to buy a box- $300 and at minimum an OEM croc strap-$279. Now you've got the bare minimum of an incomplete set.

bodybump · 20 April 2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dra44

From the Panerai website, "In case of loss, a COSC duplicate will cost € 35,00 if your watch is not older than 5 years. If the watch is older than 5 years, it is necessary to carry out a complete overhaul at one of our After Sales Service Centres. Our technicians will then send the watch to the COSC Centre where the watch will be tested before issuing a new certificate." I would make the dealer do this for you just to be on the safe side. It's not quite as good as having a full triple box set, but it's a start.

If you are planning on keeping the watch, it sounds like a deal that's too good to pass up, however if you are going to flip it, you're going to have to buy a box- $300 and at minimum an OEM croc strap-$279. Now you've got the bare minimum of an incomplete set.

dave how much it will cost to replace a new certificate? and even though im not the first owner? would panerai have their own list of stolen watches?

dra44 · 20 April 2009, 02:47 PM

I believe they do keep a list of stolen watches. The cost for a replacement certificate is 35 Euro. If you go to Panerai.com and look at the FAQ section it tells you what to do. I believe you can actually call Panerai in Italy, which might be a good thing to do first, just to check if the watch is stolen first, and you can check on the COSC certificate later if it's clean.

bodybump · 20 April 2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dra44

I believe they do keep a list of stolen watches. The cost for a replacement certificate is 35 Euro. If you go to Panerai.com and look at the FAQ section it tells you what to do. I believe you can actually call Panerai in Italy, which might be a good thing to do first, just to check if the watch is stolen first, and you can check on the COSC certificate later if it's clean.

isnt it the same as rolex? because Rolex wont tell you if the watch is stollen unless you send the watch to them...

Trurolexer · 20 April 2009, 03:57 PM

3,700 is a nice price, Buddy!!!
You not wearing a boxes...Go For It!!!

100thmonkey · 20 April 2009, 03:59 PM

With no box and papers I would take 20-30% off any decent watch, its like buying a car without the documents.

hflee55 · 20 April 2009, 08:44 PM

It looks really good and the price is a steal. Just make sure it's legit or you might be in for a surprise when you send it in for service.

louie · 22 April 2009, 04:05 AM

oscar,is this the same 88 we talk about it before comparing to the 90?

Andad · 23 April 2009, 07:08 PM

Yup, except that most of the Panerai movements ain't as good.

..guys

20 April 2009, 08:36 AM	#1
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 DATEJUST41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,225	Is buying panerai same as buying a Rolex? Well my question is..is buying a panerai watch same as buying a Rolex that warranty card or authenticity papers are that important? There is a store selling a panerai but they are selling the watch only..is it that safe and selling a pam without papers will be easy? Would I be able to sell the watch without papers easy if I need too? __________________

20 April 2009, 09:01 AM	#2
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	Oscar, My opinion is that it is a similar situation to Rolex. From selling, to service to just plain authenticity. You can of course sell it - Might need to have an AD authenticate or prove you bought it somewhere reputable. High dollar item... The buyer will probably want proof. Although, PAM is not as often copied as Rolex probably. I am sure the fake market is alive and well... __________________ Jackson

20 April 2009, 09:31 AM	#3
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,241	With Panerai, the triple boxes are very important. ( Outer cardboard, inner black and the pear wood box). If you watch the sales boards, they almost always list "3 boxes included". They can be replaced, but will cost you $$ and without them , resale of you watch will be that much harder & cheaper than one with all the goodies. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

20 April 2009, 09:43 AM	#4
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 DATEJUST41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,225	But how about without papers? Because from time to time there are people selling the boxes..are all pam boxes the same? Or boxes correspond to watches..because i know that Rolex at the buttom of the box correspond certain model although they all look the same..$3800 for a pam 88 watch only is a good price? __________________

20 April 2009, 10:34 AM	#5
TonyD 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Boston North Watch: Meteorite Daytona Posts: 1,456	$3800 is a steal for an 88. So much so that I question it considerably, even without papers etc it should be much more I think. __________________ Pepsi GMT/SD43/DSSD Blue/ DJ41 TT Rose Diamond Dial/ Daytona Meteorite/ SS Sky Dweller White Dial/ IWC Bronze Big Pilot/ Aquanautic Super King / Omega Ploprof 1200 / Graham Scarab Diver

20 April 2009, 10:40 AM	#6
dra44 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dave Location: New Jersey Watch: 116523 White Dial Posts: 44	What year is the watch? I believe that if the watch is less than 5 years old, you can contact Panerai and have the papers re-issued. As far as the box goes, I would keep checking on paneristi.com, they come up regularly for around $275-$300. While $3800 is a good price for a PAM88almost too good. What would worry me is whether or not the watch may have been stolen at one point. I'm not saying that the dealer even would know, but if you send it in for service, and the SN# comes up as stolen, you're out of luck.

20 April 2009, 10:40 AM	#7
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,452	Something isn't right for an 88 at that price... Where are you buying this from? __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

20 April 2009, 11:19 AM	#8
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	Papers as proof of authenticity is just as important. You can also have it verified at panerai's service centres. the price you're getting for the 88 just seems too good to be true. have it checked out if i were you.

20 April 2009, 02:34 PM	#12
dra44 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dave Location: New Jersey Watch: 116523 White Dial Posts: 44	From the Panerai website, "In case of loss, a COSC duplicate will cost € 35,00 if your watch is not older than 5 years. If the watch is older than 5 years, it is necessary to carry out a complete overhaul at one of our After Sales Service Centres. Our technicians will then send the watch to the COSC Centre where the watch will be tested before issuing a new certificate." I would make the dealer do this for you just to be on the safe side. It's not quite as good as having a full triple box set, but it's a start. If you are planning on keeping the watch, it sounds like a deal that's too good to pass up, however if you are going to flip it, you're going to have to buy a box- $300 and at minimum an OEM croc strap-$279. Now you've got the bare minimum of an incomplete set.

20 April 2009, 02:47 PM	#14
dra44 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dave Location: New Jersey Watch: 116523 White Dial Posts: 44	I believe they do keep a list of stolen watches. The cost for a replacement certificate is 35 Euro. If you go to Panerai.com and look at the FAQ section it tells you what to do. I believe you can actually call Panerai in Italy, which might be a good thing to do first, just to check if the watch is stolen first, and you can check on the COSC certificate later if it's clean.

20 April 2009, 03:57 PM	#16
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	3,700 is a nice price, Buddy!!! You not wearing a boxes...Go For It!!!

20 April 2009, 03:59 PM	#17
100thmonkey "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: The Major Location: Surrey, UK Watch: All Are Beautiful Posts: 355	With no box and papers I would take 20-30% off any decent watch, its like buying a car without the documents.

20 April 2009, 08:44 PM	#18
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	It looks really good and the price is a steal. Just make sure it's legit or you might be in for a surprise when you send it in for service.

22 April 2009, 04:05 AM	#19
louie "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Lewis Location: Earth Watch: The Beast Posts: 1,352	oscar,is this the same 88 we talk about it before comparing to the 90? __________________ " I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

23 April 2009, 07:08 PM	#20
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,797	Yup, except that most of the Panerai movements ain't as good. ..guys __________________ E

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