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Old 9 September 2020, 02:49 AM   #1
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Which Speedmaster to get?

Hey all,

Just looking at getting my first Speedmaster but a couple of different movements have popped up, just wondering what you guys recommend?

Looking at a heslalite 1861

Or the 321 movement

Or perhaps waiting for the Snoopy in October?

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Old 9 September 2020, 02:52 AM   #2
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Do you want to spend 3K or 14K?


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Old 9 September 2020, 02:53 AM   #3
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If budget wasn't an issue, which would be closer to the original?

I mean the 321 has Sapphire crystal front and back but the 1861 has the heslalite

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Old 9 September 2020, 03:26 AM   #4
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If budget wasn't an issue, which would be closer to the original?

I mean the 321 has Sapphire crystal front and back but the 1861 has the heslalite

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Hesitate. Sapphire is banned in space because if it shattered the shards could wreak havoc inside electronic instruments.


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Old 9 September 2020, 05:48 AM   #5
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Why does the Speedmaster Racing get no love? If I were in the market for a new Speedy, it would definitely be on my shortlist:
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Old 9 September 2020, 06:05 AM   #6
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Why does the Speedmaster Racing get no love? If I were in the market for a new Speedy, it would definitely be on my shortlist:
I think I prefer the black dial versions

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Old 9 September 2020, 07:26 AM   #7
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The Speedmaster with Caliber 321 is pretty cool. I say if you think you would enjoy it, then go for it! I would
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Old 9 September 2020, 08:12 AM   #8
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I think I prefer the black dial versions

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If you plan to use it for its intended function, the white dial version is considerably more practical.
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Old 9 September 2020, 08:22 AM   #9
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Hesitate. Sapphire is banned in space because if it shattered the shards could wreak havoc inside electronic instruments.
Actually, the greatest concern is to the astronauts' eyes, mouths and nasal tissues.
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Old 9 September 2020, 08:31 AM   #10
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Actually, the greatest concern is to the astronauts' eyes, mouths and nasal tissues.

Ah.. yeah that makes sense. Thanks!


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Old 9 September 2020, 09:54 AM   #11
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Hesalite all day long
IMHO the first (and one of the greatest) watches in any collection. Wears great, with a timeless design
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Old 9 September 2020, 11:02 AM   #12
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Get the Hesalite 1861 before it's gone. Won't be long now...and then the cost of the updated model will make you want to
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Old 9 September 2020, 11:59 AM   #13
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I too am a firm believer that hesalite belongs on a Speedy, but.....I would bend for the 321!

As you mentioned, you want something close to the Speedmasters of the early years and this really is as close as you are going to get without going vintage.

Other than the hesalite, you have a piece close to the original size, vintage design aesthetic and the iconic 321 movement. As a bonus, you can actually appreciate the 321 through the sapphire case back.

With a hesalite crystal swap it would be a no brainer. Otherwise, you can’t go wrong with the Snoopy!
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Old 9 September 2020, 12:12 PM   #14
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Old 9 September 2020, 03:33 PM   #15
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Old 9 September 2020, 04:35 PM   #16
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Hesalite and manual wind

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Old 9 September 2020, 04:44 PM   #17
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Old 9 September 2020, 05:16 PM   #18
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Hesalite version. 321 is not worth the premium IMO.
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Old 9 September 2020, 07:30 PM   #19
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Hesalite first. Any other models after that.

If you get a hesalite from AD you might be able to obtain the new Snoopy a bit easier
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Old 9 September 2020, 08:23 PM   #20
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I have owned a lot of them and have settled on the Speedmaster Racing with the black and orange dial.
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Old 9 September 2020, 09:36 PM   #21
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There’s obviously a big difference between the 3 you’ve listed. The Hesalite Pro Moonwatch being the most plentiful around and lots of options to go near new or grey. The 321 is a massive premium over the standard moonwatch and who knows when you’d be able to get one, they’re just getting to customers now. I’d imagine a big demand for the Snoopy too if it’s pretty enough given what we know about the 2013 silver snoopy.

I’d go for the 1861 hesalite and see how you like it, then consider your other options.
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