The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Classifieds > WatchOut!!!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 22 September 2009, 09:24 AM   #1
sebelle13
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: new jersey
Posts: 4
Do not buy from beckertime

I bought a watch off of ebay from Beckertime and when I received it I brought it to the Rolex headquarters in New York and they told me it was counterfit.

I want people to know since I see a lot of people asking if he is a legit seller on these forums, and he is not... I have no idea how he is considered a powerseller on ebay.

Please do not purchase from this seller.
sebelle13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 09:29 AM   #2
Idle Swede
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Real Name: Leo
Location: Boca Raton
Posts: 13,938
Welcome to the forum.

What have you done to rectify it?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
[COLOR="White"]..............................[/COLOR] [B][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Sienna"]"Life is a beach"[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
Idle Swede is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 09:31 AM   #3
onkyo
2017 Pledge Member
 
onkyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: Pav
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 11,477
Hello and welcome to the forum.

I assume you are referring to this auction --> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=360184767043

Did you inform Beckertime of this problem?
onkyo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 09:31 AM   #4
TimeToGo
2017 Batman Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: D.C.
Posts: 15,460
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebelle13 View Post
I bought a watch off of ebay from Beckertime and when I received it I brought it to the Rolex headquarters in New York and they told me it was counterfit.

I want people to know since I see a lot of people asking if he is a legit seller on these forums, and he is not... I have no idea how he is considered a powerseller on ebay.

Please do not purchase from this seller.
First, Welcome to the Forum!

That is a serious allegation on a solid buyer. Are you sure you purchased from this seller?

Do you have the auction ID?
TimeToGo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 09:33 AM   #5
TimeToGo
2017 Batman Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: D.C.
Posts: 15,460
Pav, just saw your post.

How did you find it?
TimeToGo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 09:34 AM   #6
TimeToGo
2017 Batman Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: D.C.
Posts: 15,460
Never mind, i saw how...
TimeToGo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 09:35 AM   #7
onkyo
2017 Pledge Member
 
onkyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: Pav
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 11,477
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeToGo View Post
Never mind, i saw how...
onkyo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 09:49 AM   #8
mustangbrad
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Real Name: brad
Location: il
Watch: 16613
Posts: 287
Hope you get this situatiuon worked out. With a rating like that he has too. Good luck.
mustangbrad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 11:53 AM   #9
greekbum
2017 Pledge Member
 
greekbum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Real Name: Nikos
Location: Florida
Watch: Rolex GMT 16750
Posts: 8,008
Wow post a copy of what Rolex NY gave you in writing that says the watch is counterfit.
Was the seller not willing to issue you a full refund?They offer a No Risk Guarantee and had no previous negative feedback other than yours in the past 12 months.Did you know you were buying an old vintage ladies watch?
__________________
Ask Me About My Website

Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas


Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 10,000 Days And Counting
greekbum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 11:58 AM   #10
sleddog
Moderator & 2017 HULK Patron
 
sleddog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Real Name: Rob
Location: Canada
Posts: 23,813
Wow...Beckertime has always been one of those A list Rolex sellers!!! Not sure how this has happened or slipped through the cracks but its a worry for sure..!!! Please keep us updated!!! Have you contacted Beckertime yet??
Rob.!
__________________
He who wears a Rolex is always on time,even when late!!

TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..
sleddog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 12:06 PM   #11
bodybump
2017 HULK Sponsor
 
bodybump's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Real Name: Oscar
Location: Florida
Watch: Me!!!
Posts: 23,012
Wow this is serious....if this is true then they will be remove from ebay...if the watch is fake im pretty much sure you wont get it back...does RSC write you a letter that the watch you have is fake?? Or your just ranting over beckertime??
__________________
bodybump is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 12:43 PM   #12
GMTJOHNNY
"TRF" Member
 
GMTJOHNNY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Real Name: John
Location: LONG ISLAND, NY
Watch: 2007 DAY DATE 18KT
Posts: 1,380
I noticed a LOT of times with Beckertime that you have to READ the fine print. Most watches have AFTERMARKET bracelets. Thus non-Rolex and maybe that is why Rolex says counterfeit. I saw some great deals of Day Dates BUT found they had aftermarket gold bracelets made in Italy and that is why the price was so good. Real gold, just not Rolex gold. IMHO....
__________________
ROLEX DAY DATE 118238 (2007)
ROLEX DAY DATE 18238 (1997)
ROLEX GMT 16750 PEPSI (1987)
ROLEX AIR KING 14000 (1991)
ROLEX GMTIIC TT 116713LN (2008)
GMTJOHNNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 12:47 PM   #13
onkyo
2017 Pledge Member
 
onkyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: Pav
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 11,477
Beckertime responded to the negative feedback ....

"NOT TRUE - Rolex Dallas confirmed full authenticity - docs to prove 100% genuine"

I am sure Becktime would have taken the watch back and refunded 100% if there was a question of authenticity.

1+1 is not equaling 2 here.
onkyo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 12:50 PM   #14
tudorman8276
"TRF" Member
 
tudorman8276's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: STAN
Location: KY-USA
Watch: Rolex Prez
Posts: 12,588
...I do NOT believe...

...the poster of this thread.

...the watch is GOOD as is the band.

...someone trying to stir-up the pot.

...someone is trying to create friction here on the forum.

...the ONLY way this is fake, is if it has a COUNTERFEIT mvm't.
tudorman8276 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 12:52 PM   #15
sleddog
Moderator & 2017 HULK Patron
 
sleddog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Real Name: Rob
Location: Canada
Posts: 23,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by onkyo View Post
Beckertime responded to the negative feedback ....

"NOT TRUE - Rolex Dallas confirmed full authenticity - docs to prove 100% genuine"

I am sure Becktime would have taken the watch back and refunded 100% if there was a question of authenticity.

1+1 is not equaling 2 here.
Thats what I thought to Pav......Beckertime has been around for a long time on Ebay and would be one of the few I would consider purchasing from on that horible site...! At first I was thinking somehow his tech just droped the ball,but after looking over the pics and description,It looks legit to me.....
Rob.
__________________
He who wears a Rolex is always on time,even when late!!

TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..
sleddog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 01:47 PM   #16
greekbum
2017 Pledge Member
 
greekbum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Real Name: Nikos
Location: Florida
Watch: Rolex GMT 16750
Posts: 8,008
Maybe buyers remorse?I think for that money he could have gotten sapphire crystal model with a better band.But he bid and bought it. Still no reason for negative feedback etc.
__________________
Ask Me About My Website

Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas


Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 10,000 Days And Counting
greekbum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 01:58 PM   #17
Z-Sub
2017 Pledge Member
 
Z-Sub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: So Cal, USA
Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man
Posts: 7,282
I don't believe it either.
__________________
SS Submariner Date "Z"
SS SeaDweller "Z"
SS Submariner "Random"
TT Blue Submariner "P"
SS GMT-Master ll "D", Pepsi
Pam 297
Z-Sub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 03:52 PM   #18
TheDeuce
"TRF" Member
 
TheDeuce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Real Name: Michael
Location: Winnipeg
Watch: DD&YM&DaytonaOMy
Posts: 295
I feel the need to step up here.

I've purchased three different pieces from Beckertime and not only have the items been exactly as described, his after sales support has been unparalleled.

True story: My wife's Datejust was running a little slow and the date wasn't clicking cleanly. When I phoned Beckertime to arrange for warranty work, he said that since I was in Canada and the customs would be a problem, that I should take it to the local AD and send the bill to him!!! He was ready to send me a cheque (the watch was in need of a service) but I told him to hold it as a credit against my next purchase (which he honoured in spades).

Just to be clear: I don't work for the guy, I have no business interest with him except as a customer, and I don't go around cheerleading businesses for no reason. But when I see negative claims made about a business that has been ideal to work with, I feel the need to step up in defense of said business.

And if one truly did slip through the cracks, then it must have been the one in a million. Beckertime didn't get an 11000+ feedback rating dealing in Faulexes.

(And there's a reason the "watch out" specials often steal his photos. If you're going to steal, why not do it from the best?)


m.
TheDeuce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 September 2009, 04:29 PM   #19
mcjp6
"TRF" Member
 
mcjp6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Real Name: Michael
Location: VK2 - AUS
Watch: 5513s
Posts: 7,388
Quote:
Originally Posted by onkyo View Post
1+1 is not equaling 2 here.
I agree. something not quite right with this "claim" IMO
mcjp6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 05:40 AM   #20
mustangbrad
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Real Name: brad
Location: il
Watch: 16613
Posts: 287
So is the general consensus that this one post guy listed a false claim on here? Judging just by the numbers from Beckertime, I would fully trust them as a buyer. I would fully assume if something was truly wrong, they would refund the money and apologize. But as above, someone stating to fully read the fine print? I really don't like companies that do that. If I'm paying the going market value for a used roles, I don't want switched out bands, internals, etc.
mustangbrad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 06:17 AM   #21
sebelle13
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: new jersey
Posts: 4
Since this post, beckertime has reached out to me to rectify any issues. Seems legit in trying to resolve the concerns. We are working it out... more to come.
sebelle13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 06:45 AM   #22
R1@160@alltimes
"TRF" Member
 
R1@160@alltimes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: USA
Watch: ♛
Posts: 4,446
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebelle13 View Post
Since this post, beckertime has reached out to me to rectify any issues. Seems legit in trying to resolve the concerns. We are working it out... more to come.
Next time give the seller the opportunity to respond and rectify the situation before blasting them.
__________________
R1@160@alltimes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 07:01 AM   #23
onkyo
2017 Pledge Member
 
onkyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: Pav
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 11,477
Quote:
Originally Posted by R1@160@alltimes View Post
Next time give the seller the opportunity to respond and rectify the situation before blasting them.
x10000000000000 ....
onkyo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 07:04 AM   #24
onkyo
2017 Pledge Member
 
onkyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: Pav
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 11,477
Feedback for this transaction was changed to positive .... I presume the seller contacted ebay to change it.
onkyo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 07:31 AM   #25
RLH
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Real Name: Robert
Location: SC
Posts: 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by R1@160@alltimes View Post
Next time give the seller the opportunity to respond and rectify the situation before blasting them.
We do not know if opportunity was given or not. In fact, it appears (from their response) that the seller took the position that nothing was wrong with the product. This may very well be a situation where strong action was needed.
RLH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 10:40 AM   #26
sebelle13
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: new jersey
Posts: 4
let me be very clear on my post... Rolex headquarters in NYC DID tell me the watch was not authentic to their standards... I have given beckertime that feedback, however they rectify that with this specific watch is up to them. Could very well be a one off situation.

He has been very accommodating and is sending me another watch that he assures Rolex will confirm is authentic by their standards. I intend to get it checked again and will report back on my experience with the new watch.
sebelle13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 10:51 AM   #27
TimeToGo
2017 Batman Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: D.C.
Posts: 15,460
Good for you, for doing the homework. I wonder if it had an aftermarket part inside w/the movement?

Also, excellent on Beckertime to back their guarantee!

Everyone is happy at the end.... This does not happen all the time!

CHEERS!!!
TimeToGo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 10:52 AM   #28
TimeToGo
2017 Batman Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: D.C.
Posts: 15,460
Oooops, sorry for my manners...

Welcome to the Forum!
TimeToGo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 12:12 PM   #29
onkyo
2017 Pledge Member
 
onkyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: Pav
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 11,477
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebelle13 View Post
let me be very clear on my post... Rolex headquarters in NYC DID tell me the watch was not authentic to their standards... I have given beckertime that feedback, however they rectify that with this specific watch is up to them. Could very well be a one off situation.

He has been very accommodating and is sending me another watch that he assures Rolex will confirm is authentic by their standards. I intend to get it checked again and will report back on my experience with the new watch.
Please be more specific... what part of the watch was not up to their standards.

Thanks for your anticipated response.
onkyo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 September 2009, 01:35 PM   #30
springer
2017 HULK $500 Sponsor
 
springer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: jP
Location: Texas
Watch: GMT-MASTER
Posts: 12,217
If the watch was counterfeit, you wouldn't have received the watch back from the RSC. The RSC must have had an issue with some part on the watch.
__________________
"If the game is rigged, you can't lose if you don't play."

Member of NAWCC since 1990.
springer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (1 members and 1 guests)
nvcd0728
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Banner Of The Month
*Banner Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright 2004-2017, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.