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Old 20 October 2021, 01:18 AM   #1
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Is this fake?

So I'm about to buy my first ever Rolex watch and it's this watch, but from a different place and I've asked for some additional photos of the watch, but until I actually buy it or get the photos of "my" watch I found this one as a reference: https://www.watchclub.com/rolex/date...gqIoJdU325oNMQ

After looking around I thought of two things:

1) "Rolex" is not engraved on the rehaut, and that's something that Rolex started doing around 2005. This watch is said to be from 2006, but lacks the engraving and my specimen of the watch is from 2005, so it might also lack it. Should I be worried about this or should all watches made in -05 have it? Is the one I linked likely fake then? See this watch for example, it's also from 2006 but it HAS engravings: https://www.1stdibs.com/jewelry/watc.../id-j_6917982/

2) What movement should be in the watch? On the watch in the first link, it says calibre 3235, which I'm pretty sure wasn't in that watch, or am I wrong? On mine it says 3135, which seems correct according to my research?
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Old 20 October 2021, 01:28 AM   #2
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Doesn't look like a fake. My 2007 bluesy does not have rehaut engraved.
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Old 20 October 2021, 01:41 AM   #3
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No, all watches in '05 do not have an engraved rehaut
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Old 20 October 2021, 01:50 AM   #4
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Doesn't look like a fake. My 2007 bluesy does not have rehaut engraved.
I dont think hes posted the watch hes buying? Or am reading this wrong?
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Old 20 October 2021, 01:51 AM   #5
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I've never seen that dial but it has the appearance of a Rolex factory dial. I'd suggest making sure the line under the coronet on the crown is accurate for a TT. There are lines, dots, that signify the material of the watch. I thought a line like is here signified a solid gold watch, not TT. If that checks out then you're probably good to go.
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Old 20 October 2021, 02:03 AM   #6
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A dial like that may sit in a display case for some time back then. The watch was probably manufactured before the engraved rehaut became a thing. You watch will have a serial number, a watch manufactured around 2006 would have a Z serial. What is your serial number?
Please put up a pic of your watch and we will authenticate the watch in the pictures for you.

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Old 20 October 2021, 02:12 AM   #7
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A dial like that may sit in a display case for some time back then. The watch was probably manufactured before the engraved rehaut became a thing. You watch will have a serial number, a watch manufactured around 2006 would have a Z serial. What is your serial number?
Please put up a pic of your watch and we will authenticate the watch in the pictures for you.

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Thank you so much, yeah I'm buying it from a website called watchmaster (which I've only heard good about) and I'm actually traveling from Sweden to London to buy it IRL - seems like the only fitting thing to do when buying your dream watch. I will post the photos as I get them. When you say "a dial like that may sit ... for some time" what do you mean by that, just curious.
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Old 20 October 2021, 02:50 AM   #8
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I've never seen that dial but it has the appearance of a Rolex factory dial. I'd suggest making sure the line under the coronet on the crown is accurate for a TT. There are lines, dots, that signify the material of the watch. I thought a line like is here signified a solid gold watch, not TT. If that checks out then you're probably good to go.
You make a very good point! I see both 2 dots on some TT DJ's and a just a solid line on the one I've written about in my posts. Apparently it depends on the size of the crown.. https://millenarywatches.com/rolex-crown-markings/

I wonder if anyone knows the correct diameter of the crown for my watch..
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No, it is not the size of the crown. It designates the newer monobloc crowns, rather than the wrapped steel crown construction.

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Old 20 October 2021, 05:58 AM   #10
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After looking around I thought of two things:

1) "Rolex" is not engraved on the rehaut, and that's something that Rolex started doing around 2005. This watch is said to be from 2006, but lacks the engraving and my specimen of the watch is from 2005, so it might also lack it. Should I be worried about this or should all watches made in -05 have it? Is the one I linked likely fake then? See this watch for example, it's also from 2006 but it HAS engravings: https://www.1stdibs.com/jewelry/watc.../id-j_6917982/

2) What movement should be in the watch? On the watch in the first link, it says calibre 3235, which I'm pretty sure wasn't in that watch, or am I wrong? On mine it says 3135, which seems correct according to my research?
The watch in your link above is fine. It's a bit of a moot point though, as that isn't the one you are buying. Post pics of the actual watch you are considering if/when you get them.

And yes, the movement would be a cal. 3135.
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Old 20 October 2021, 09:48 PM   #11
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When you say "a dial like that may sit ... for some time" what do you mean by that, just curious.
What I mean is, if it was a more generic dial it would sell quicker. Some more extravagant or less popular dialed watches take longer to sell, so it could have been in the AD for a year or more before it sold, for example, manufactured in 2006 with a Z serial but not sold until 2008, warranty gets dated 2008 causing confusion - where is my rehaut engraving that was introduced in 2007 etc.
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Old 21 October 2021, 02:55 AM   #12
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The watch in your link above is fine. It's a bit of a moot point though, as that isn't the one you are buying. Post pics of the actual watch you are considering if/when you get them.

And yes, the movement would be a cal. 3135.
These are the three photos I got from the dealer today:

Does anything seem sketchy?
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Old 21 October 2021, 11:25 AM   #13
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Does anything seem sketchy?
Nope, looks fine.
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Old 21 October 2021, 08:36 PM   #14
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