Fake Box? From very reputable grey seller.

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by m j b

I wouldn't sweat the box issue, especially since they are willing to replace it with another fine replica. But if you have any concerns at all with the watch, I concur with Wade (@donas) above - you won't be happy until it's been certified. And the only way to do that is to send it to the RSC. Ask for an estimate for service (the estimate is free) and they will let you know if any parts are not authentic.

Seriously: for the money that you spent, it's worth it for peace of mind. IMHO.

Do the photos lead you to believe the box is a replica? Others seemed to come to the conclusion it’s authentic. Just curious before I speak with them.

And yes, I know my mind will not be 100% at ease until I do that — I completely agree. However I don’t have any “valid” concerns with the watch; there is not a single thing wrong with it or off about it. My mind just can’t help but jump the worst scenario instead of enjoying a good thing.

[midwesterner]

Originally Posted by jbreyette

Cushion and inner-tray seem fine as well…. Just the “wave” pattern and the crown falling off has me thrown.

Watch pillow looks legit. I can’t say for sure about the box, but if it’s a TS I wouldn’t sweat it too much. Boxes are often damaged and replaced.

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by midwesterner

Watch pillow looks legit. I can’t say for sure about the box, but if it’s a TS I wouldn’t sweat it too much. Boxes are often damaged and replaced.

It’s a VERY well known TS with over 25 years in the business and a beautiful store location in a nice area where I purchased my watch — recommended by local friends and 100’s of online reviews. Don’t know why I’m so paranoid.

[mike morris]

on card year was 2017 .

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by mike morris

on card year was 2017 .

I definitely see 17 over 14. At this point I’m not even sure it’s worth bringing up to them — I just want to stop obsessing in my head and enjoy my watch like I should be doing. Clearly everyone here has said it’s authentic; I don’t want to let a broken logo on a box or date change on a warranty card ruin it for me.

[GGGMT]

Box looks just like all my boxes. But the heavy pen and wiggly squiggly on the card would've made me pass. Doesn't look like it was just penned in naturally. Someone went over it, for some reason, perhaps as noted, to change the 4 to a 9.

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Box looks just like all my boxes. But the heavy pen and wiggly squiggly on the card would've made me pass. Doesn't look like it was just penned in naturally. Someone went over it, for some reason, perhaps as noted, to change the 4 to a 9.

I agree. But at this point I am concerned that if I bring it up to the TS they will think I’m just trying to get some type of $ back or something of the sort.

[MrGoat]

Julian, this may come off harsh and if so please excuse me as it’s not meant to.

Put the warranty card back in the box with the pillow and all the other stuff, put that box inside the outer box and stuff it in your coat closet. Put your watch on your wrist and wear it everywhere. I understand it’s a pretty sizable purchase and due to all the horror stories you can scroll through on this forum you’re letting your mind run with anything it can find. Don’t be overly critical, it’s a gorgeous watch and deserves to be worn.


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[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Julian, this may come off harsh and if so please excuse me as it’s not meant to.

Put the warranty card back in the box with the pillow and all the other stuff, put that box inside the outer box and stuff it in your coat closet. Put your watch on your wrist and wear it everywhere. I understand it’s a pretty sizable purchase and due to all the horror stories you can scroll through on this forum you’re letting your mind run with anything it can find. Don’t be overly critical, it’s a gorgeous watch and deserves to be worn.


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Mr. Goat, with this comment you are proving your title as “The Goat” lol.

Not harsh at all. In fact, this was exactly what I needed to hear. I did speak with the seller and I’m gonna swing by their shop next week for a new box, which will
then be stuffed deep in a closet.

Thank you to everyone for your help in making my wandering mind come full circle and finally just enjoy my watch.

[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by jbreyette

Mr. Goat, with this comment you are proving your title as “The Goat” lol.

Not harsh at all. In fact, this was exactly what I needed to hear. I did speak with the seller and I’m gonna swing by their shop next week for a new box, which will
then be stuffed deep in a closet.

Thank you to everyone for your help in making my wandering mind come full circle and finally just enjoy my watch.

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[214270Explorer]

Box is real Rolex. No need to discuss further.
100% matches several that I received with new watches at two AD's.
Just shove some 5 minute epoxy in the holes and reinstall the emblem.

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by 214270Explorer

Box is real Rolex. No need to discuss further.
100% matches several that I received with new watches at two AD's.
Just shove some 5 minute epoxy in the holes and reinstall the emblem.

Thank you. Yes, I agree no need to discuss further as we’ve solved this issue. Going to mark in thread title.

[javier]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Julian, this may come off harsh and if so please excuse me as it’s not meant to.

Put the warranty card back in the box with the pillow and all the other stuff, put that box inside the outer box and stuff it in your coat closet. Put your watch on your wrist and wear it everywhere. I understand it’s a pretty sizable purchase and due to all the horror stories you can scroll through on this forum you’re letting your mind run with anything it can find. Don’t be overly critical, it’s a gorgeous watch and deserves to be worn.


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This !!!

[train-time]

The box looks fine but the dots and slash lines seem odd on the date on the warranty card. It's usually one or the other separating the month, day, and year -- not both.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by jbreyette

I definitely see 17 over 14. At this point I’m not even sure it’s worth bringing up to them — I just want to stop obsessing in my head and enjoy my watch like I should be doing. Clearly everyone here has said it’s authentic; I don’t want to let a broken logo on a box or date change on a warranty card ruin it for me.

Was it sold as a 2019 watch? If so, and the card originally said 2014, or has otherwise been tampered with, then you don't have the almost three years left on the warranty that you paid for.

[wb55]

What would RSC do if you sent that watch and the card off for service and the date had been changed? Would they withhold the warranty card, issue a new one?

I'd return purely based on the warranty card.

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Was it sold as a 2019 watch? If so, and the card originally said 2014, or has otherwise been tampered with, then you don't have the almost three years left on the warranty that you paid for.

Originally Posted by wb55

What would RSC do if you sent that watch and the card off for service and the date had been changed? Would they withhold the warranty card, issue a new one?

I'd return purely based on the warranty card.

It was sold as 2019, yes.

When I go to pick up the new box I will show them the card and see what they have to say. I’m not going to return the watch over a warranty card possibly being tampered with though — I’m happy with it and just want to enjoy wearing it.

With my trade-in and cash payment I made out with a good deal, so I’m honestly not too concerned about “paying” for the 5-year warranty, or what was left of it.

[wb55]

Originally Posted by jbreyette

It was sold as 2019, yes.



When I go to pick up the new box I will show them the card and see what they have to say. I’m not going to return the watch over a warranty card possibly being tampered with though — I’m happy with it and just want to enjoy wearing it.

Call or visit RSC first.

I wouldn't touch a watch with doctored papers. Wouldn't even consider it.

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by wb55

Call or visit RSC first.

I wouldn't touch a watch with doctored papers. Wouldn't even consider it.

I’ll give them a call and see what they have to say, but as long as my watch is authentic, which everyone has confirmed it is, I’m happy.

[Benzsiam]

As long as you're happy with the watch without warranty (the date of the original purchase was in 2014 and tampered to 2019), you're OK, I think the watch is authentic.

I don't understand why they changed the date if they are trusted seller.

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by jbreyette

It was sold as 2019, yes.

When I go to pick up the new box I will show them the card and see what they have to say. I’m not going to return the watch over a warranty card possibly being tampered with though — I’m happy with it and just want to enjoy wearing it.

With my trade-in and cash payment I made out with a good deal, so I’m honestly not too concerned about “paying” for the 5-year warranty, or what was left of it.

Personally, I’d be wondering what else they “tampered” with. We’re talking 5 years and watch being sold as having an existing warranty.

Giving you the wrong box could be a mistake. Tampered with the date on a warranty card...
Guess there are different definitions of “very reputable”. I’d return the watch regardless of their explanation. Good luck OP.

[KatGirl]

Without doubt, The 7 was changed to a 9, on the warranty card. It’s possible the previous owner did that, not the retailer from whom you bought it. So, definitely bring that up. Perhaps they will give you a small refund, since there is only one year of warranty left.


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[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by Al1969

Personally, I’d be wondering what else they “tampered” with. We’re talking 5 years and watch being sold as having an existing warranty.

Giving you the wrong box could be a mistake. Tampered with the date on a warranty card...
Guess there are different definitions of “very reputable”. I’d return the watch regardless of their explanation. Good luck OP.

Thanks for the well wishes — I really just want to enjoy it and move on. Unfortunately proving more difficult than anticipated.

Originally Posted by KatGirl

Without doubt, The 7 was changed to a 9, on the warranty card. It’s possible the previous owner did that, not the retailer from whom you bought it. So, definitely bring that up. Perhaps they will give you a small refund, since there is only one year of warranty left.


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I agree that I see a 7 originally, especially when I look at it in person at different angles. I won’t return the watch over it, but I was thinking the same to maybe get a little $ back at least.

[joli160]

Mr. Goat has said it all, never mind the warranty, you don’t need it anyway

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by joli160

Mr. Goat has said it all, never mind the warranty, you don’t need it anyway

Honestly… I concur! Thank you all for the input, I think it’s time we officially consider this case closed.

[smym18]

Originally Posted by jbreyette

Honestly… I concur! Thank you all for the input, I think it’s time we officially consider this case closed.

If my memory is right, the super jubilee was discontinued in 2018. Your watch has the latest clasp on it, which didn't exist in 2017. So whoever wrote on the card could have made a mistake. Maybe now the case is super closed?

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by smym18

If my memory is right, the super jubilee was discontinued in 2018. Your watch has the latest clasp on it, which didn't exist in 2017. So whoever wrote on the card could have made a mistake. Maybe now the case is super closed?

Totally can’t believe I missed that. When I was doing my research before purchasing I was told by the rep at Tourneau that Super Jubilee was discontinued in 2017, but he could have been off by a year.

Either way, date was either tampered from 2017 to 2019, or to you point maybe just simply a mistake. We are still going with case super closed haha.

[wb55]

This whole thread is an absolute "what the hell".

Doctored warranty card, concerns over the authenticity of the box, questions over the clasp due to the age yet the OP just wants to move on and enjoy the watch.

Should have just bought a loose if you're not bothered about the rest. You would have saved some money.

[jbreyette]

Originally Posted by wb55

This whole thread is an absolute "what the hell".

Doctored warranty card, concerns over the authenticity of the box, questions over the clasp due to the age yet the OP just wants to move on and enjoy the watch.

Should have just bought a loose if you're not bothered about the rest. You would have saved some money.

Concerns over authenticity of box were remedied. I don’t see the clasp style as an issue, but quite the opposite. More so proves warranty card wasn’t doctored from 2014, perhaps from 2017. I’m sorry if you feel it’s a “what the hell” type of response, but as others have said it’s rather pointless to overthink it further.

I really do appreciate all the feedback, but at this point it seems like some really would just rather I find flaw in the situation instead of move on and enjoy.

Wishing everyone a great weekend — I’m going to go on and enjoy mine.

[tike71]

Originally Posted by jbreyette

Concerns over authenticity of box were remedied. I don’t see the clasp style as an issue, but quite the opposite. More so proves warranty card wasn’t doctored from 2014, perhaps from 2017. I’m sorry if you feel it’s a “what the hell” type of response, but as others have said it’s rather pointless to overthink it further.

DJ41 came out in 2017 and was the successor to the DJ2. Neither of which ever had the super jubilee.