The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Classifieds > WatchOut!!!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 5 October 2017, 09:03 AM   #1
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Please help to authentic this Rolex 1161710BLNR

I am the first time Rolex buyer so please help me to identify if this Rolex is fake or not. Especially, the authentic card only contains serial number and model, NO bracelet number and dial? Seller said he got this one outside the U.S. Not sure.
If any of you have knowledge about this, please help! Thank you.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_1086.jpg (20.5 KB, 977 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1082 (2).jpg (84.5 KB, 971 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1084 (1).jpg (116.3 KB, 977 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1083 (1).jpg (30.8 KB, 970 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1085 (1).jpg (77.9 KB, 976 views)
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 09:47 AM   #2
Cryten
"TRF" Member
 
Cryten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Terrafirma
Posts: 2,655
Can you get some better pictures of that bracelet? Something is very wrong there.

The numbers on the back and pics of the clasp open would help
Cryten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 10:45 AM   #3
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Thank you !
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0857.jpg (262.9 KB, 960 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0858 (1).jpg (135.4 KB, 961 views)
File Type: jpg FullSizeRender (4).jpg (73.7 KB, 957 views)
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 11:13 AM   #4
superstarmar
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: In Motion
Watch: my wrist presence
Posts: 7,436
The bezel looks off, can you center it ?
superstarmar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 12:03 PM   #5
Cryten
"TRF" Member
 
Cryten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Terrafirma
Posts: 2,655
Where did the pictures come from? The third picture in the original post isn't the same watch. That's what threw me with the bracelet.
Cryten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 12:17 PM   #6
cwieb
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: U.S.
Posts: 2,702
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryten View Post
Where did the pictures come from? The third picture in the original post isn't the same watch. That's what threw me with the bracelet.
Right, third picture appears to be a 5 digit ref case.
cwieb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 12:18 PM   #7
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryten View Post
Where did the pictures come from? The third picture in the original post isn't the same watch. That's what threw me with the bracelet.
The pictures came from the seller. I try to ask him to take the better picture but he said he left the office and not around computer. He records for me a video but I can't upload it on here.
He did offer me 7800 for this Batman though. Is it too good to be true?
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 12:28 PM   #8
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwieb View Post
Right, third picture appears to be a 5 digit ref case.
I c. Did you notice anything about the authentic card? The card only show the serial and model number. I did not see the bracelet reference and dial. Sellers said he got the watch from outside the U.S.
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 12:28 PM   #9
Andrés G
"TRF" Member
 
Andrés G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Guatemala
Posts: 3,391
It looks off. Proceed with caution.
Andrés G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 12:33 PM   #10
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrés G View Post
It looks off. Proceed with caution.
Thank you !
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 12:33 PM   #11
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryten View Post
Where did the pictures come from? The third picture in the original post isn't the same watch. That's what threw me with the bracelet.
Thank you
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 12:33 PM   #12
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwieb View Post
Right, third picture appears to be a 5 digit ref case.
Thanks a lot
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 01:09 PM   #13
epc2
"TRF" Member
 
epc2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: florida
Watch: 116610LV,Pam etc.
Posts: 1,310
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwieb View Post
Right, third picture appears to be a 5 digit ref case.
Yeah ,also look at the links, they're hollow, 5digit bracelet.
epc2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 02:03 PM   #14
kingkonger
"TRF" Member
 
kingkonger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Real Name: Dan
Location: UK
Posts: 183
Quote:
Originally Posted by epc2 View Post
Yeah ,also look at the links, they're hollow, 5digit bracelet.
Noticed too! The connecting links should be solid links!

Sent from my LG-H990 using Tapatalk
kingkonger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 05:19 PM   #15
crowncollection
"TRF" Member
 
crowncollection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: David
Location: australia
Posts: 20,157
That band is a dead give away


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
watches many
crowncollection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5 October 2017, 11:22 PM   #16
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Seller just texted me pic of papers
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg A1E64313-C55B-4DE1-B2C1-33C7168DD3E0.jpeg (132.7 KB, 871 views)
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 12:18 AM   #17
beshannon
"TRF" Member
 
beshannon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Real Name: Brian
Location: Northern Virginia
Watch: One of Not Many
Posts: 17,895
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoSmith View Post
Seller just texted me pic of papers
That is nice but you are buying a watch right?
__________________
Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Rolex 116710 GMT Master II BLNR, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent
beshannon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 01:05 AM   #18
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by beshannon View Post
That is nice but you are buying a watch right?
I have not make up my mind yet! Seller give a price of seventy-six hundred but its seem too good to be true right ?
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 01:45 AM   #19
Aquahallic
"TRF" Member
 
Aquahallic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: ☀️FL
Posts: 72
If you're already having to question the seller and or the watch...move on!
Aquahallic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 01:49 AM   #20
Chewbacca
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2012
Real Name: CJ
Location: Kashyyyk
Watch: Kessel Run Chrono
Posts: 21,113
something tells me the asking price is really low compared to others, since there's several from less risky sellers still available.

i'd pass.
Chewbacca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 02:13 AM   #21
GoingPlaces
"TRF" Member
 
GoingPlaces's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 5,341
Quote:
Originally Posted by epc2 View Post
Yeah ,also look at the links, they're hollow, 5digit bracelet.
Great pick-up. That's the give away.

I'd pass.
GoingPlaces is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 02:17 AM   #22
CaveDweller
"TRF" Member
 
CaveDweller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Gogland
Watch: Timex
Posts: 267
I'm sure there should be something under the (winding) crown that's missing .....
CaveDweller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 02:28 AM   #23
yxc145
"TRF" Member
 
yxc145's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Real Name: David
Location: Chicago
Watch: SkyD,JC, BLNR, Ex2
Posts: 1,578
I am not an watch expert. But I happened to own a BLNR and wearing it today. I noticed the case back in your picture is super thick and different. Mine watch (which is 100% authentic, bought from a dealer) shows the case back having the serrations on top then tapper down. Your 3rd picture is the exact opposite.
yxc145 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 03:01 AM   #24
Syed117
"TRF" Member
 
Syed117's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Real Name: Syed
Location: The Ether
Posts: 3,388
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoSmith View Post
I have not make up my mind yet! Seller give a price of seventy-six hundred but its seem too good to be true right ?
You haven't made up your mind? Even after all these people told you that's it's not real?
__________________
Rolex Datejust 41 126334 | Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite | Cartier Santos Large | Tudor Black Bay 58
Syed117 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 03:26 AM   #25
Bigblu10
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Real Name: Jaime
Location: Here
Posts: 5,606
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoSmith View Post
I have not make up my mind yet! Seller give a price of seventy-six hundred but its seem too good to be true right ?
Walk away fast! Deceptive pics, bad pics, pics not all of the same watch, don't get SCAMMED! Price is definitely too low for this watch, even used.
Bigblu10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 03:27 AM   #26
Trazor
"TRF" Member
 
Trazor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 155
There is a picture of a different watch in there.....

Why aren't you running away..........
Trazor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 03:30 AM   #27
GradyPhilpott
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
GradyPhilpott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Mexico
Watch: 116710 BLNR
Posts: 34,345
Walk.
__________________
JJ

Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner
GradyPhilpott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 03:46 AM   #28
epc2
"TRF" Member
 
epc2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: florida
Watch: 116610LV,Pam etc.
Posts: 1,310
Two more red flags:

1-First pic on post #3 looks at the font of the "r" and "s" on his name and compare it to the last pic you posted , totally different.

2-Look how he wrote the date on the pic posted on post#3 , day /mm/yy instead of mm/day/yy, so looks like somebody from out of US trying to scam you.

Stay away.
epc2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 04:35 AM   #29
LeoSmith
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 22
Thank you guys for all your advise! I try to report on eBay but he already removed it. Lots of scam are out there. This makes me afraid to buy a Rolex from grey-market.
LeoSmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 October 2017, 04:36 AM   #30
beshannon
"TRF" Member
 
beshannon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Real Name: Brian
Location: Northern Virginia
Watch: One of Not Many
Posts: 17,895
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoSmith View Post
Thank you guys for all your advise! I try to report on eBay and he removes it. Lots of scam are out there. This makes me afraid to buy a Rolex from grey-market.
Nothing wrong with the grey market.

Buy the seller first
__________________
Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Rolex 116710 GMT Master II BLNR, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent
beshannon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Coronet

Takuya Watches

Bobs Watches

Asset Appeal

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.