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Old 7 October 2022, 10:13 PM   #1
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Switzerland Is The World's Most Innovative Country

According to Statista: The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) has released its 2022 Global Innovation Index. It evaluated innovation levels across 132 economies focusing on a long list of criteria such as human capital, institutions, technology and creative output as well as market and business sophistication, among others. The 2022 index has found that innovation is still blossoming in some sectors despite the global economic slowdown and coronavirus pandemic, especially in industries to do with public health and the environment.

Switzerland topped the rankings with a score of 64.6 out of 100, the 12th time it has been named the world leader in innovation. The United States come second while the Sweden rounds off the top three.

https://www.statista.com/chart/18804...ovation-index/

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Old 7 October 2022, 10:16 PM   #2
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Go figured, they’re headquartered in Switzerland
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Old 7 October 2022, 10:34 PM   #3
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Anyone who’s been to Switzerland can tell it’s not a hotbed of creativity. You go there for skiing, bucolic landscapes, efficient trains, discreet financial services, commodities trading, accurate clocks, and low taxes. Your average Swiss is as creative as a houseplant. Even trying to quantify this issue is itself indicative of a non-creative way of thinking.

The most creative country, by a country mile, is the United States. And that’s not just because I live here. It’s electric in all our big cities, and you can almost feel it in your bones.
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Go figured, they’re headquartered in Switzerland
LOL...

"Switzerland topped the rankings with a score of 64.6 out of 100, the 12th time it has been named the world leader in innovation."

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Old 8 October 2022, 12:59 AM   #5
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Anyone who’s been to Switzerland can tell it’s not a hotbed of creativity. You go there for skiing, bucolic landscapes, efficient trains, discreet financial services, commodities trading, accurate clocks, and low taxes. Your average Swiss is as creative as a houseplant. Even trying to quantify this issue is itself indicative of a non-creative way of thinking.

The most creative country, by a country mile, is the United States. And that’s not just because I live here. It’s electric in all our big cities, and you can almost feel it in your bones.
Totally agree
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Agree with star ferry can’t believe this is even a question.
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Old 8 October 2022, 02:10 AM   #7
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Anyone who’s been to Switzerland can tell it’s not a hotbed of creativity. You go there for skiing, bucolic landscapes, efficient trains, discreet financial services, commodities trading, accurate clocks, and low taxes. Your average Swiss is as creative as a houseplant. Even trying to quantify this issue is itself indicative of a non-creative way of thinking.

The most creative country, by a country mile, is the United States. And that’s not just because I live here. It’s electric in all our big cities, and you can almost feel it in your bones.


They are likely measuring innovation on some type of a per capita measure. If you look at both overall innovation and the total impact of that innovation, it is very hard to argue that the US is not the global leader.
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I'm sure any first world country could design a award where they're number one for 12 years in a row for something.

Switzerland has a population of around 9 million.

China is pretty innovative with a population of 1.4 billion and the US has had one or two innovations over the years with a population of 330 million.

Incidentally I've just named myself the worlds most handsome man for the 15th year in a row. Of course I had to barely narrow out Dan Pierce so I designed the test to exclude guitar players.

I mean, seriously????, guitar players........pfffffft.
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Anyone who’s been to Switzerland can tell it’s not a hotbed of creativity. You go there for skiing, bucolic landscapes, efficient trains, discreet financial services, commodities trading, accurate clocks, and low taxes. Your average Swiss is as creative as a houseplant. Even trying to quantify this issue is itself indicative of a non-creative way of thinking.

The most creative country, by a country mile, is the United States. And that’s not just because I live here. It’s electric in all our big cities, and you can almost feel it in your bones.

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Anyone who’s been to Switzerland can tell it’s not a hotbed of creativity. You go there for skiing, bucolic landscapes, efficient trains, discreet financial services, commodities trading, accurate clocks, and low taxes. Your average Swiss is as creative as a houseplant. Even trying to quantify this issue is itself indicative of a non-creative way of thinking.

The most creative country, by a country mile, is the United States. And that’s not just because I live here. It’s electric in all our big cities, and you can almost feel it in your bones.
So you think they may have left out some criteria?

However base on population Australia, Scotland, New Zealand etc.etc. beat you by miles.

And being from the Scotland didn’t we give you the USA Steven?

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So you think they may have left out some criteria?

However base on population Australia, Scotland, New Zealand etc.etc. beat you by miles.

And being from the Scotland didn’t we give you the USA Steven?

Where are you from originally?
I think their whole endeavor — trying to rank a qualitative concept like “innovation” with an algorithm — was a bad idea.

Now that’s not to say there aren’t creative people in Australia or any other country. There might be a generational genius living in Sierra Leone looking for clean water right now. The UK/Europe has a great legacy of innovation as well, although they’ve become less creative post WWII.

If we consider where the most inventions and new ideas that shape human society in 2022 emanate from, the answer is the US by far. Which isn’t a knock on any country.

Just because it’s de rigeur to bash the US at the pub or dinner table in all the countries you mentioned, doesn’t negate the influence US innovations have and continue to have. Most are too dumb to realize that’s a cheap global political tool — wherein politicians try to focus their citizens on problems in the big bad USA to distract from issues at home. Almost every country does this now (reminds their subjects how bad America is) but especially more authoritarian regimes.
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I think their whole endeavor — trying to rank a qualitative concept like “innovation” with an algorithm — was a bad idea.
True that.

Heard a while back that there are more 'honor roll' students in China than the USA has students(!). In some countries (like Singapore, etc), schooling and your high placement due to excellent grades are very important.

India is also quite strong in numbers.
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Go figured, they’re headquartered in Switzerland
They're actually headquartered in Hamburg, Germany.
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Your average Swiss is as creative as a houseplant.
Eventhough probably true, what a stupid, immature statement to make. I think it might probably be true for average people from whatever country.

I don't think that they want to say that Swiss people are innovative. It's the ecosystem here that attracts alot of talent with massive innovation power from all over the world.

Is Switzerland more innovative than the US? I have no clue, might very well be that it's not. Your post however just shows that you were offended that US isn't #1.
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LSD, DNA, turbochargers, milk chocolate and Swiss Army watch top the list of Swiss innovations and inventions. Switzerland is a fine country, but unless you are a hippie from 1960s hardly most innovative.
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Eventhough probably true, what a stupid, immature statement to make. I think it might probably be true for average people from whatever country.

I don't think that they want to say that Swiss people are innovative. It's the ecosystem here that attracts alot of talent with massive innovation power from all over the world.

Is Switzerland more innovative than the US? I have no clue, might very well be that it's not. Your post however just shows that you were offended that US isn't #1.
I do apologize for comparing the average Swiss to a houseplant, especially since the average American is borderline-illiterate, and as you noted — average folks anywhere are not the engines of innovation.

As for the ranking, those folks can say whatever they’d like and it wouldn’t offend me. I’m just making conversation and having a discussion.
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I do apologize for comparing the average Swiss to a houseplant, especially since the average American is borderline-illiterate, and as you noted — average folks anywhere are not the engines of innovation.

As for the ranking, those folks can say whatever they’d like and it wouldn’t offend me. I’m just making conversation and having a discussion.


If there was a study that examined the amount of morons on a per capita basis, I’m fairly sure the US would be a leader in that as well.
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If there was a study that examined the amount of morons on a per capita basis, I’m fairly sure the US would be a leader in that as well.
Right, we don’t have much of a floor in terms of quality of healthcare, education, and living standards. We’re also significantly more diverse than the other countries mentioned in this thread.
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I'd have guessed that Israel would have been near the top of such a list.
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Aren't a lot of companies incorporated in or partially operated out of Switzerland due to their privacy laws?

I assume in 2022 that ranking global innovation is probably pretty hard given the tendency of so many companies to be multinational, and how the development of even individual products can occur in different stages at different places across the globe.
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The cheese with the holes in it is pretty good. Better than American cheese I would say.


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The cheese with the holes in it is pretty good. Better than American cheese I would say.


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Incidentally I've just named myself the worlds most handsome man for the 15th year in a row. Of course I had to barely narrow out Dan Pierce so I designed the test to exclude guitar players.
Ahem, Hello........
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Sorry, I meant US most handsome………whew.

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