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Old 25 May 2021, 12:12 PM   #1
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Edited - Timepiece Gentleman

I've been watching Timepiece Gentlemen on Youtube for a while. Was something new and interesting. Eventually I just lost interest in the show because Anthony is nothing but a flashy egotist. Only guy who knows anything is Marco, and even after a few episodes you can see that Anthony is rubbing off on Marco too much and he's becoming self absorbed and flashy.

Had the pleasure of watching Grey Market (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP_ft34xOMM) today and I really enjoyed it. I didn't realize Roman and Adrian speak Russian, and it was a pleasure listening to them every now and then. Few things that jumped out at me:
  • I love how Roman calls out Anthony indirectly on his show opening, saying that "this isn't someone trying to make it in the business" and he's already made it, with his $100M company
  • Adrian is wickedly knowledgable on all watches
  • Roman has great knowledge on very unique watches
  • I like how Roman and Adrian run the business, and it's clear why it's a $100M company
  • Each episode is under 50 minutes, well edited and the cinematography is great

It's super clear to me why Anthony and Marco are struggling; trying to scam everyone into this VIP club; waste money left and right; and make self-absorbed videos that actually teach you nothing about watches. You can even see this in the name of the show, it's all about Anthony and his flashy brand. Roman and Adrian call their show Grey Market and actually focus on the grey market and watches.

I can't wait to see more episodes of Grey Market. I'll definitely want to buy a piece from Roman and Adrian just for the experience and support. Great guys and seem like the best.
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Old 25 May 2021, 12:17 PM   #2
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2 weeks ago I saw Roman and Adrian on the street in Manhattan.i was very surprised to see them filming for their show and I watch all their stuff. They seem like 2 great guys and I feel like they are the real deal. Some of the other stuff out there isnt as entertaining IMO.
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Old 25 May 2021, 12:20 PM   #3
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Eventually most every youtuber watch guy will disappoint you.

First it was the talking hands guy, then AC3, then Thorpe, then Mosso, then the rake guy, then the guy in Japan with the specs, etc.... then Anthony . Maybe in 2 weeks it will be Roman.
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Old 25 May 2021, 12:22 PM   #4
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Eventually most every youtuber watch guy will disappoint you.

First it was the talking hands guy, then AC3, then Thorpe, then the guy in Japan, etc.... then Anthony . Maybe in 2 weeks it will be Roman.
I think Timepiece Gentleman takes the win, because it became ridiculous after the second episode.
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Old 25 May 2021, 12:29 PM   #5
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I think Timepiece Gentleman takes the win, because it became ridiculous after the second episode.
I watched up until he started looking for bigger diggings in that nicer building.

After a while I figured I'm not learning anything anymore.

Was watching the glasses guy in Japan for awhile, but then he started throwing in politics.

Sayonara.

I'm not here to get brainwashed.

Like I said , they all become a turn off eventually.
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Old 25 May 2021, 01:17 PM   #6
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Eventually most every youtuber watch guy will disappoint you.

First it was the talking hands guy, then AC3, then Thorpe, then Mosso, then the rake guy, then the guy in Japan with the specs, etc.... then Anthony . Maybe in 2 weeks it will be Roman.
So true. I find nowadays I am best informed by old watch forums that's been around... And unfortunately only the older posts where people dive deeper into movements and history. Newer posts seem centered around acquiring the hyped pieces promoted by these YouTube videos
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Old 25 May 2021, 01:46 PM   #7
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So true. I find nowadays I am best informed by old watch ...And unfortunately only the older posts where people dive deeper into movements and history. Newer posts seem centered around acquiring the hyped pieces promoted by these YouTube videos
Agreed. Richard Perret Watchmaker is enjoyable in that respect.

https://m.youtube.com/results?search...ett+watchmaker
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Old 8 July 2021, 06:40 PM   #8
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Eventually most every youtuber watch guy will disappoint you.

First it was the talking hands guy, then AC3, then Thorpe, then Mosso, then the rake guy, then the guy in Japan with the specs, etc.... then Anthony . Maybe in 2 weeks it will be Roman.
I certainly hope not. Roman and Adrian seem like the real deal and watching "Grey Market" is always informative and interesting.
I think they'll be here for a long time.

I also hope Anthony gets his act together.
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Old 8 July 2021, 07:09 PM   #9
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I certainly hope not. Roman and Adrian seem like the real deal and watching "Grey Market" is always informative and interesting.
I think they'll be here for a long time.

I also hope Anthony gets his act together.
roman is a smart guy and with his experience and well established relationships within the grey market, i see no reason he would fail suddenly unless the watch market crash and burn. I once left a comment on TPG's video to compliment its the best video I've ever watched about luxury watches. sure Anthony got some great ideas and revolutionized the video contents in certain way. I would like to see him bounce back from this mess, but he need to give us a chance to love him again.
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Old 8 July 2021, 07:33 PM   #10
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but he need to give us a chance to love him again.
To love him again?

What's up with this kind of idolization? Putting him on a pedestal.

Anthony is a normal person just like you and me. The only difference is that he puts content online for everyone to see. He could be similar to a local shop owner close to you.

I don't get why people talk like they are big fans. It's a watch dealer...
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Old 8 July 2021, 07:43 PM   #11
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To love him again?

What's up with this kind of idolization? Putting him on a pedestal.

Anthony is a normal person just like you and me. The only difference is that he puts content online for everyone to see. He could be similar to a local shop owner close to you.

I don't get why people talk like they are big fans. It's a watch dealer...

haha yeah that's a little weird
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Old 8 July 2021, 07:21 PM   #12
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Eventually most every youtuber watch guy will disappoint you.

First it was the talking hands guy, then AC3, then Thorpe, then Mosso, then the rake guy, then the guy in Japan with the specs, etc.... then Anthony . Maybe in 2 weeks it will be Roman.

What's wrong with Tim Mosso or Wei Koh?
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Old 8 July 2021, 09:09 PM   #13
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What's wrong with Tim Mosso or Wei Koh?
At least Tim knows a thing or two about watches.
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Old 8 July 2021, 09:33 PM   #14
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At least Tim knows a thing or two about watches.
Was there something that Wei Koh did specifically? I also didn't quite understand this reference. Asking genuinely.

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Old 8 July 2021, 10:08 PM   #15
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Was there something that Wei Koh did specifically? I also didn't quite understand this reference. Asking genuinely.

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I have know idea who Wei Koh is, but I do watch Mosso. I find his reviews very succinct.

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Old 25 May 2021, 12:20 PM   #16
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Roman and Adrian -Russian Americans.I hear accent from first video. Great show “whiskey and watches “
Timepiece Gentlemen Anthony offer my subC 2019 for 8000$ 1 month ago ( crazy fake videos)
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Old 25 May 2021, 12:28 PM   #17
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Timepiece Gent is like a car wreck, you don't want to watch but you do anyway. Anthony is a clown and should get a savings account because for guys like him it's here today, gone today.
Unfortunately with his materialistic personality and penchant for over-priced, average quality, trendy steak houses he will be looking for a new scam before long.

I do find Marco interesting as his knowledge of vintage Rolex is top shelf and he does seem quite intelligent overall.

The best thing about this channel is that it clearly shows how greys acquire pieces. Anthony fully admits that no AD will deal with him. He gets all his pieces from private, discreet AD buyers. There is no back room bundling. He buys a BLRO for 18k and sells it for 20k. It's a volume business for greys.
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Old 25 May 2021, 12:54 PM   #19
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Roman is one of my viewed YT channels. Humble guy with a lot of experience. His on screen chemistry with Adrian and the way he treats his staff gives me a very high impression of him. He also values horological merits over hype.
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Old 26 May 2021, 04:16 AM   #20
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Roman is one of my viewed YT channels. Humble guy with a lot of experience. His on screen chemistry with Adrian and the way he treats his staff gives me a very high impression of him. He also values horological merits over hype.
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Old 25 May 2021, 01:17 PM   #21
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I personally like watching Timepiece Gentleman because of the entertainment value. A bit unfair to call him out on watch knowledge as I believe the channel is really is a day in the life for him and their goal of X million sales in a year.

You can’t deny that he’s a good marketer and and the channel has a lot of appeal that brings a lot of business to them.

Now, if it was my business I would be more frugal but he can run it the way he wants to. The “openness” of the channel brings a lot of trust and it’s interesting to me seeing the people that call in and their various reasons on selling/buying a watch. The flashiness not so much but I can see how some people might be into that.

Admittedly, it is getting tiring but let’s see how far they go.


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Old 27 May 2021, 12:22 AM   #22
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I personally like watching Timepiece Gentleman because of the entertainment value. A bit unfair to call him out on watch knowledge as I believe the channel is really is a day in the life for him and their goal of X million sales in a year.

You can’t deny that he’s a good marketer and and the channel has a lot of appeal that brings a lot of business to them.

Now, if it was my business I would be more frugal but he can run it the way he wants to. The “openness” of the channel brings a lot of trust and it’s interesting to me seeing the people that call in and their various reasons on selling/buying a watch. The flashiness not so much but I can see how some people might be into that.

Admittedly, it is getting tiring but let’s see how far they go.


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He can run it the way he wants to, but asking people for a $2 million GIFT in exchange for no equity is a bad look when blowing money on lavish meals etc. like you have an infinite supply
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Just watched the latest episode of Grey Market. I really love this show.

I did watch the first few weeks of the Timepiece Gentleman, but lost interest after the whole gifting of money to purchase their new location. That was the end for me.
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Just watched the latest episode of Grey Market. I really love this show.

I did watch the first few weeks of the Timepiece Gentleman, but lost interest after the whole gifting of money to purchase their new location. That was the end for me.
i think the fun thing about roman and grey market is their team actually goes out to make deals with other dealers. showing you how it works in the business.

it's more interactive to watch. TPG is always about calls, credit card fraud, not knowing what wire is in and out and giving ridiculous grey market prices to end customers and they're still over-paying for it.
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Old 25 May 2021, 01:22 PM   #25
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Is it really a 100M biz?
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Old 25 May 2021, 01:29 PM   #26
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I can not fathom who is actually selling them watches as their trade values are completely pathetic. I tried to watch the show twice but could only stomach 10 min tops. I respect Anthony’s story but that’s where it ends. If they are around in 2 years ill be surprised
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Old 25 May 2021, 01:33 PM   #27
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I enjoy all of them, Roman, Adrian, Anthony & Marco.

I think I lean a bit more towards favoring Roman/Adrian for several reasons. Roman is a big humanitarian always thinking of the less fortunate. And he’s a family man, those things resonate with me. He does dominate the convo a bit too much but I can live with that. And he’s very horological first, hype second. I love all that and he’s informative on all pieces, hype or no hype.

Anthony & Marco are entertaining too, I like Marco more though. He cracked me up in his video where he was talking to someone who referred to Marco as “the other guy” and Marco sort of cringed and looked confused acknowledging “yes I’m the other guy”. Loved that it was hilarious and he’s content enough to not have to be “center of attention” and he’s definitely more horological savvy than Anthony.

Anthony is lights camera action, pure hype, pure flash, mildly narcissistic yes. But he has intense work ethic and creativity. He demands excellence in business and gets very involved and he put the channel together. He gets my respect for creativity and intense work ethic and grind.
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Old 25 May 2021, 01:39 PM   #28
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I'm a Roman fan over TPG
I enjoy his stuff as hes knowledgeable but also pretty down to earth

With Anthony at TPG, I'm only watching now to see if we get to watch the whole thing unravel as their spending outstrips their revenue
I'm no business owner, but the amount of money they seem to be spending doenst seem smart this early in the game and i dont imagine it will end well if/when the general market or their hype cools off
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Old 25 May 2021, 01:49 PM   #29
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AC3 is the most entertaining IMHO followed by WatchEric
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Romans editing, business etc is in a different league over Anthony’s. However I do believe if we give Anthony time he will get a lot better. It all takes time to hone your craft, and watching both folks I can say they are learning from each other.
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