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Old 22 August 2019, 03:55 PM   #1
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Shorter waitlist for 5711 ROSE GOLD?

Hi. Dont think this has been discussed before. Does the 5711 in rose gold has the shortest waitlist than the blue or white face dial?

Is the waitlist time from longest to shortest like this:

5711 Blue face -> white face -> rose gold
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Old 22 August 2019, 04:46 PM   #2
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Correct.

I was told 25 years plus for 5711 in blue, 15 years or so for 5711 white and maybe 10 years for a Rose Gold Nautilus.
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:44 PM   #3
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Correct.

I was told 25 years plus for 5711 in blue, 15 years or so for 5711 white and maybe 10 years for a Rose Gold Nautilus.
Really, that sounds like never to me.
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:52 PM   #4
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Its not just my Patek's, everything around me is breaking. I cant belive the number of post revisions I have had to make due to my crappy Iphone and my PC keyboard.
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:48 PM   #5
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Correct.

I was told 25 years plus for 5711 in blue, 15 years or so for 5711 white and maybe 10 years for a Rose Gold Nautilus.

I'd get a new AD
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Old 22 August 2019, 11:56 PM   #6
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Correct.

I was told 25 years plus for 5711 in blue, 15 years or so for 5711 white and maybe 10 years for a Rose Gold Nautilus.
Thanks for the info. Do you know how long it is for the 5167a Aquanaut please?
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Old 23 August 2019, 12:04 AM   #7
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Thanks for the info. Do you know how long it is for the 5167a Aquanaut please?


Sorry to burst your bubble, but if your having to ask you probably wouldn't be top ofthe list to get 1 without an awesome AD and if you had 1 of those you would know

The salon has stopped taking names unless they know you, AD might take a name but wou won't ho on a list without spending serious money


So if you do want 1, hold out incase bubble bursts or buy pre owned

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Old 23 August 2019, 12:04 AM   #8
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Correct.

I was told 25 years plus for 5711 in blue, 15 years or so for 5711 white and maybe 10 years for a Rose Gold Nautilus.

I don't use lol lightly but ... lol. "25 years plus" is damn funny, as if 25 years alone just isn't quite enough. Great post!
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Old 23 August 2019, 01:37 AM   #9
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Correct.

I was told 25 years plus for 5711 in blue, 15 years or so for 5711 white and maybe 10 years for a Rose Gold Nautilus.


Such a poor business model.

why not just say no? Or Ďa whileí.

I think some ADs donít realize how much $$ they are missing out on in (potential) future sales (of any type) by these shenanigans with consumers. Especially if they offer OTHER things as well - I.e. other watch brands, jewelry etc.

Why not take someoneís interest and AT LEAST show them something they CAN buy!!!!


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Old 23 August 2019, 04:57 AM   #10
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Correct.

I was told 25 years plus for 5711 in blue, 15 years or so for 5711 white and maybe 10 years for a Rose Gold Nautilus.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO if someone told me that with a straight face id punch them
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Old 23 August 2019, 05:00 AM   #11
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOO if someone told me that with a straight face id punch them


let me know when you go shopping i wanna be there
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Old 24 August 2019, 12:56 AM   #12
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOO if someone told me that with a straight face id punch them
Agreed!!! :-)

However, it's possible. If a dealer gets only once piece per year and there are 25 names on the list...... :-)
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Old 22 August 2019, 04:52 PM   #13
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Yea I figured. With the blue face trading at 80k+, I would rather just wait shorter and pay retail for the rose gold. I will pop into my AD today and check the status.
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:26 PM   #14
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Apparently the bubble has burst (based on various recent threads) and grey prices are tumbling so expect the waiting lists to reduce sharply. Some members even predicted secondary prices for the blue 5711 will be at or below retail in 2020. They may be wishful thinkers though, But if the bubble is gone along with the waiting list, you should forget MSRP on sports models and expect a discount.

It may be worth a try, but I don’t believe it myself. Indeed I posted a few days ago about a UK grey with a flash sale including 5711 and 5167, the new sale prices we’re crazy mental, the highest I have seen for a 5711 in the UK for a while, so not a sale really.

The waiting lists depend greatly on where you are located in the world and the AD you are dealing with, it is not really predictable. The rose gold version MAY be slightly easier, although still expect a really long wait unless you have a very good relationship with your AD, especially in the UK.

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Old 22 August 2019, 06:30 PM   #15
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The bubble hasn't burst for retail purchases. It's for greys and it's affecting the Asian market only - From rumours, due to the lack of Chinese tourists due to the 11th week of protests in Hong Kong.

The supply of sports Pateks will remain at an all-time low. Stern doesn't care.
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:39 PM   #16
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The bubble hasn't burst for retail purchases. It's for greys and it's affecting the Asian market only - From rumours, due to the lack of Chinese tourists due to the 11th week of protests in Hong Kong.

The supply of sports Pateks will remain at an all-time low. Stern doesn't care.
I know, its such great news. Although once they start talking in HK watch those prices soar again, bigger and higher. Its a great time for me and others who have all the hot sports models they want, not so good for those waiting but at least they are on the waiting list.
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:48 PM   #17
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:48 PM   #18
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I am still waiting on all the great watches. Got my 5711/1R and it's one of the best, if not, the best watch I've ever owned. Only downside to it is that RG from Patek is softer than warm butter. You touch something with it and it's instantly scratched.
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:59 PM   #19
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I am still waiting on all the great watches. Got my 5711/1R and it's one of the best, if not, the best watch I've ever owned. Only downside to it is that RG from Patek is softer than warm butter. You touch something with it and it's instantly scratched.
If youíre still in the game, I feel your pain. The 5711/1R is gorgeous, but I know what you mean, itís an ouch magnet.
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Old 22 August 2019, 06:59 PM   #20
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Prices are falling in asia? Where?
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Old 22 August 2019, 07:01 PM   #21
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Prices are falling in asia? Where?
Thats what I though as well.
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Old 22 August 2019, 07:20 PM   #22
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I think HK grey prices have seen a tiny % drop but only because of the current troubles. To be fair everything in HK is being affected including the airport, it's not just hot luxury sports watches.

It important to remember we on this forum live in a “shiny metal sports bubble”, it’s like the "steel sports hype bubble" but it has not burst yet. In short, we on this forum view the world with luxury sports watch glasses on, so sometimes we miss the bigger picture.
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Old 22 August 2019, 07:49 PM   #23
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Hong Kong. Prices down 10-15%
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Old 22 August 2019, 09:38 PM   #24
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Hong Kong. Prices down 10-15%
Really as much as that, is this on all Patek sports models in HK, has anyone seen actual evidence this is happening across all greys. Either HK grey prices were 10 -15% higher than everywhere else or it’s another “15% off flash sale” by a shady grey dealer or 2 that were 25% higher than everyone else in the first place.

If that drop is accurate for Patek sports watches in HK imagine the deals that will be available for all other Patek watches, Rolex and other brands. It must be bargain central for all luxury watches and other luxury goods right now in HK.

Mmmmm something don't sound quite right to me.
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Old 23 August 2019, 01:20 PM   #25
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Where in HK?


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Go to the watchfare in Holiday Inn. That's where all the grey dealers are.
They sell their pieces at merchant to merchant prices and not the tourist prices.

A 5980/1R is no longer 1.3-1.35M HKD. It's around floating around 1.15-1.2
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Old 23 August 2019, 06:23 PM   #27
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Go to the watchfare in Holiday Inn. That's where all the grey dealers are.
They sell their pieces at merchant to merchant prices and not the tourist prices.

A 5980/1R is no longer 1.3-1.35M HKD. It's around floating around 1.15-1.2


Ah ok. Thanks.

Because of the HK protests?

Or just economic forces at work?


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Old 23 August 2019, 07:29 PM   #28
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Go to the watchfare in Holiday Inn. That's where all the grey dealers are.
They sell their pieces at merchant to merchant prices and not the tourist prices.

A 5980/1R is no longer 1.3-1.35M HKD. It's around floating around 1.15-1.2
The 5980/1r is a pretty niche in this price range I would expect big differences in prices so hard to say any fall in price has taken place. The low price for 5980/1r in US on Chono24 this morning was 155k US (1.2m HKD) so your 10-15% price fall is normal bubble price really.

Are you tracking the current HK prices for 5711-2/1a, 5167/a and 5164/a and how available are they? That is the “business end” of the market, if you give us current grey prices for those models, we will be able to better judge if prices are genuinely falling in the current HK market.
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Old 26 August 2019, 05:48 PM   #29
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Go to the watchfare in Holiday Inn. That's where all the grey dealers are.
They sell their pieces at merchant to merchant prices and not the tourist prices.

A 5980/1R is no longer 1.3-1.35M HKD. It's around floating around 1.15-1.2
Where is watchfare in holiday inn is that in tsim sha tsui?
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