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Old 16 October 2018, 09:16 AM   #31
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Is a deposit to secure the watch considered a sale of the watch? He'd still be paying the balance and picking up the watch in person.
depends on how literal someone is taking what it implies. A sales associate probably isnt well versed in nuance. Money over the phone= sale. Not making an excuse, but that part is plausible to me. The rest is unacceptable.
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:18 AM   #32
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I understand why you would feel frustrated but I don't think it's productive bashing the AD online. Who knows, maybe the AD reads this and calls other ADs and then all of a sudden no rival store will sell you the watch you want (they do know who you are). I get it - that isn't right and the customer should come first but it is their sandbox and we cannot escape that reality.
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:22 AM   #33
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I would revisit the AD one day and ask to see their most expensive watch. After 15 minutes of discussing how it's your grail and trying it on, taking photos etc, pull out your credit card and say "I'll take it".

Then just as the sales person is writing up the sale, pretend to receive a TXT message and say "Sorry I just got a TXT from my Grey - he can do it for 30% cheaper. Goodbye"
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:24 AM   #34
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Sorry to hear about this. What a let down. Really sucks. Not sure I would have been able to maintain professionalism when he told me he sold it on the last call on the way there. As in that is OK, I will be there anyways....

Good luck finding another watch. May the watch Gods smile upon you.
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:27 AM   #35
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Wow that is terrible and really poor taste on Tourneau’s part. Knowing you were on your way and getting close by and then selling it to another? That wouldn’t have sat right with me at all. Sorry to hear that, keep at it and you’ll find it!
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:31 AM   #36
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That's disgusting service. I would be furious. You actually lost time and money for travelling too. Truly awful that they think that is an acceptable way to treat their customers.
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:33 AM   #37
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What happened was every sales person called around hoping to make the sale.

It was a feeding frenzy. Unfortunately someone else’s person got there first.
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:37 AM   #38
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A lawyer can chime in here but I believe the AD made a verbal contract to supply the watch to the OP as long as he came in and made the deposit. They have broken that contract. Hard to prove though unless the phone call was recorded
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:38 AM   #39
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I've only been into any Tourneau location once, on Madison Ave. I was not impressed with the general atmosphere in the store, I was the only customer in the building and not a single salesman seemed interested in selling anything let alone even making somebody feel welcome in there.
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:43 AM   #40
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It's one thing if they left you a voicemail, you never called back, and then they sold it.

IMO, it's absolutely unacceptable that they KNEW you were on the way and you CALLED AS YOU WERE ON YOUR WAY.

Sorry to hear about your experience!
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:47 AM   #41
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A lawyer can chime in here but I believe the AD made a verbal contract to supply the watch to the OP as long as he came in and made the deposit. They have broken that contract. Hard to prove though unless the phone call was recorded
There would be no contract. A contract has multiple stages of "offer, consideration, acceptance, mutual intent" Unless all are completed a contract is not legally binding.

The salesman stated that they would not do business over the phone. That is the key.

He invited the customer down to complete the deposit, which would then act as a contract once the deposit had been paid. As this would form both the offer, consideration and acceptance. The vendor would also share a mutual intent to supply goods.
It's crappy what the dealer did... but nothing from a legal standpoint.

That said, it is absolutely disgusting service.
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:51 AM   #42
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Is a deposit to secure the watch considered a sale of the watch? He'd still be paying the balance and picking up the watch in person.


It had to be a "full deposit" basically paying for the entire watch


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Old 16 October 2018, 09:52 AM   #43
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Sorry to hear about this. What a let down. Really sucks. Not sure I would have been able to maintain professionalism when he told me he sold it on the last call on the way there. As in that is OK, I will be there anyways....



Good luck finding another watch. May the watch Gods smile upon you.


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Old 16 October 2018, 09:53 AM   #44
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I understand why you would feel frustrated but I don't think it's productive bashing the AD online. Who knows, maybe the AD reads this and calls other ADs and then all of a sudden no rival store will sell you the watch you want (they do know who you are). I get it - that isn't right and the customer should come first but it is their sandbox and we cannot escape that reality.


Why would they do that? Isn't the point to build customer relationships for repeat purchases ?


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Old 16 October 2018, 09:54 AM   #45
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What happened was every sales person called around hoping to make the sale.



It was a feeding frenzy. Unfortunately someone else’s person got there first.


It was the same sales person who made the sale to someone else!


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Old 16 October 2018, 09:55 AM   #46
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A lawyer can chime in here but I believe the AD made a verbal contract to supply the watch to the OP as long as he came in and made the deposit. They have broken that contract. Hard to prove though unless the phone call was recorded


If only it was recorded....


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Old 16 October 2018, 09:55 AM   #47
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A lawyer can chime in here but I believe the AD made a verbal contract to supply the watch to the OP as long as he came in and made the deposit. They have broken that contract. Hard to prove though unless the phone call was recorded


Either way i doubt they can take the watch back that must be against the law as well.


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Old 16 October 2018, 09:56 AM   #48
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:56 AM   #49
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:58 AM   #50
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I'll update this thread once i hear something back!


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Old 16 October 2018, 10:07 AM   #51
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Just when you think you have heard the worst of bad AD stories, something like this pops up. I am genuinely sorry for your situation. The lack of morale principle in this case is unacceptable. Made even more ridiculous by the fact this guy knew were on the way, and you kept him updated with your progress.

I sincerely hope you eventually end up with the watch you want, and establish a good relationship with an ethical AD.

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Old 16 October 2018, 10:12 AM   #52
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Old 16 October 2018, 10:14 AM   #53
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I think you should report the sales person. i always pay over the phone at tourneu
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Old 16 October 2018, 10:26 AM   #54
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I’d have a word with his manager. That’s totally unacceptable and horrible customer service
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Old 16 October 2018, 10:30 AM   #55
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Old 16 October 2018, 10:35 AM   #56
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I’d have a word with his manager. That’s totally unacceptable and horrible customer service


Yep, i did fortunately she said that she woukd hold the next one that comes in and give me a day or two to ger it. But im not sure when that will be honestly. Hopefully soon!


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Old 16 October 2018, 11:13 AM   #57
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They aren’t called Turdneau for nothing......
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Old 16 October 2018, 11:15 AM   #58
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Show them the middle finger and find another way. I'd have a problem forking up serious cash to people who don't respect me. As in - I'd rather not have the watch.
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Old 16 October 2018, 11:17 AM   #59
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That’s a pretty terrible thing the sales associate did. Sorry to hear that happened. I’d be pretty furious if that happened to me. How long were you on the waitlist to begin with? I’ve been to Torneau once and was not treated very well and have not gone back since. Unfortunately starting over on another ADs list might take longer. I would probably do that still in case Torneau doesn’t come through in the end as this location seems pretty shady
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Old 16 October 2018, 11:20 AM   #60
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That’s a pretty terrible thing the sales associate did. Sorry to hear that happened. I’d be pretty furious if that happened to me. How long were you on the waitlist to begin with? I’ve been to Torneau once and was not treated very well and have not gone back since. Unfortunately starting over on another ADs list might take longer. I would probably do that still in case Torneau doesn’t come through in the end as this location seems pretty shady


Definitely over a couple of months likely a year. Yeah hopefully the manager come through and actually gets me one. But after that I doubt id go back there.


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