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Old 18 November 2018, 11:05 PM   #1
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Selling a 5711 for a 5524G...would you?

Hi all,

Just like the title says, I am seriously considering selling my steel 5711 blue dial to purchase a 5524G.

I purchased the 5711 around 5 years ago at around 22k pre-owned. It was my first PP. Since then, I’ve had a few Calatravas come and go, and I recently purchased a 5146G and have a 5167 coming in.

I hardly wear the 5711, but when I do, I enjoy it, however it does not give me the same satisfaction that it used to when I purchased it. It is special to me as my first PP, and I remember pooling all my resources and selling off quite a few watches to get it, but in the last couple of years I can count the number of times I’ve worn it. Now with an Aquanaut coming in, I feel that perhaps I can somehow let go of the Nautilus as they are somewhat similar, and explore the 5524G.

I know I can probably sell the 5711 and with the proceeds and without adding cash, get the 5524G. My main concern is sellers remorse, and whether or not the 5524G has “staying power” in terms of wearability.

Has anyone done the same, selling a Nautilus to get the Pilot Travel Time? Any thoughts, and if ever I regret, would it be that much easy to sell the Pilot to get the Nautilus again?




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Old 18 November 2018, 11:10 PM   #2
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If it comes to trade value - if you're trading a pre-owned 5711 for a 5524G pre-owned then you would want a few grand your way.

Personally, I would keep the 5711 but if you are not wearing it then ya...

My advice, perhaps wait till you have the aquanaut for a while. The 5524G for 5711 trade will wait for you.
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Old 18 November 2018, 11:14 PM   #3
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With the 5167A in your collection, I would suggest that the 5524G would add a different dimension and set of useful complications. One consideration, however is that you will not have any pieces on a bracelet as far as I follow (unless those Rolex pieces on your profile remain in place) and perhaps you have a view on that.

I cannot comment on the 5524G’s longevity in your collection, but I would hope that you have tried the piece on as it will wear very differently to the other pieces you have cited as owned or incoming.

If you are not wearing the 5711/1A, it might be worth considering why that is, but ultimately, I guess if the 5524G may see better use then it is a better part of your collection in my view.
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Old 18 November 2018, 11:18 PM   #4
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If it comes to trade value - if you're trading a pre-owned 5711 for a 5524G pre-owned then you would want a few grand your way.

Personally, I would keep the 5711 but if you are not wearing it then ya...

My advice, perhaps wait till you have the aquanaut for a while. The 5524G for 5711 trade will wait for you.


I was thinking the same thing...to wait a bit to see how the Aquanaut fits in the collection.


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Old 18 November 2018, 11:20 PM   #5
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I have both and they different watches and I use them.at different times. Leather strap makes it a little less sporty but useful complication. Remember it's a bargain compared to a 5164R
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Old 18 November 2018, 11:21 PM   #6
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With the 5167A in your collection, I would suggest that the 5524G would add a different dimension and set of useful complications. One consideration, however is that you will not have any pieces on a bracelet as far as I follow (unless those Rolex pieces on your profile remain in place) and perhaps you have a view on that.

I cannot comment on the 5524G’s longevity in your collection, but I would hope that you have tried the piece on as it will wear very differently to the other pieces you have cited as owned or incoming.

If you are not wearing the 5711/1A, it might be worth considering why that is, but ultimately, I guess if the 5524G may see better use then it is a better part of your collection in my view.


I thought of the same thing regarding the bracelet watches! I do have a BLNR and a Speedy (currently on strap but with bracelet) so I guess these could serve as the bracelet pieces.

My ultimate wish is to pass on 3 Pateks to my three sons. I guess the 5711 was kept mainly for that purpose. But I guess it would be nice to actually wear more of the watches that I’d be passing on. I’ve only had the 5146 for a couple of months but I think it has already seen much more wrist time than the 5711 in the whole 5 years I’ve owned it.


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Old 18 November 2018, 11:31 PM   #7
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Abit jealous on the 3 sons comments. I have one son, maybe I'll have a will and stagger the release of my watch collection to him where he gets a watch every 2 years with a handwritten note on why this watch was so important to dad. :)


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I thought of the same thing regarding the bracelet watches! I do have a BLNR and a Speedy (currently on strap but with bracelet) so I guess these could serve as the bracelet pieces.

My ultimate wish is to pass on 3 Pateks to my three sons. I guess the 5711 was kept mainly for that purpose. But I guess it would be nice to actually wear more of the watches that I’d be passing on. I’ve only had the 5146 for a couple of months but I think it has already seen much more wrist time than the 5711 in the whole 5 years I’ve owned it.


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Old 18 November 2018, 11:32 PM   #8
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Yes, if you have lost the love for 5711, go ahead and buy the watch you like with the sales proceeds.

And of course you are going to have seller's remorse if you sell the magnificent blue 5711. It's a given.
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Old 19 November 2018, 12:08 AM   #9
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Youve had the 11 for 5 years... there is no 5711 itch. And you can sell it for nearly double what you paid after wearing it for 5 years. Sell away and buy which ever watch you want.
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Old 19 November 2018, 12:18 AM   #10
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My ultimate wish is to pass on 3 Pateks to my three sons.
In this case, I would like to suggest that there is additional value in building a collection of these three pieces that does not change and which is comprised of pieces that you wear.
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Old 19 November 2018, 12:31 AM   #11
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As someone that has no boys...am i suppose to give my watches to the son in law in the future? Lol.
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Old 19 November 2018, 12:34 AM   #12
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As someone that has no boys...am i suppose to give my watches to the son in law in the future? Lol.
Hell no!

Grandson! Or maybe trade one for a twenty-four or something for the daughter(s)?
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Old 19 November 2018, 12:59 AM   #13
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Hell no!

Grandson! Or maybe trade one for a twenty-four or something for the daughter(s)?

24. Lol. No. I was just kidding, the kid loves watches. Shell get all of our watches at some point but she currently has a little collection herself.

I almost bought her the new due but i worry about the value retention.



Ended up with the 4700 instead....her favorite.

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Old 19 November 2018, 01:01 AM   #14
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Hell no!

Grandson! Or maybe trade one for a twenty-four or something for the daughter(s)?
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Old 19 November 2018, 01:46 AM   #15
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I wouldn't let go of the 5711 for the 5524g. To each his own, but it seems to me that you aren't even sold on the 5524g. It would be difficult to buy again the 5711, so if you really want to let it go, it should be for a watch you're completely in love with.
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Old 19 November 2018, 01:46 AM   #16
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I wouldn't.

But if you're not feeling the 5711 anymore, it's a good time to cash in and get the Pilot.

Ni point in having a watch you hardly wear!
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Old 19 November 2018, 01:53 AM   #17
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Tough to let the 5711 go for a non Nautilus so how about the 5990? Or you could keep it and trade the 67 to the 64 for the travel function. Market in the UK is a bit soft on the 5524, some have been on the largest grey here for many months.
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Old 19 November 2018, 02:23 AM   #18
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I’ve been considering this same proposal.

I like my 5711, but I wear my 5167 far more often. And I really like the 5524. Possibly prefer it over the Nautilus.

That being said, I feel long term I’d regret giving up the 5711. I’d probably add the 5524g, as opposed to trading for it. And then, if need be, sell the one I don’t like as much once I’ve had ample time compare.
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Old 19 November 2018, 02:27 AM   #19
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I have both and they are two different watches. I would not trade a 5711 towards the 5524G. Market for the 5524G is soft at least in the UK. I can recall a member said a leading grey dealer declined to purchase his almost new 5524G so it would be difficult to sell the 5524G if you regret the purchase.
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having owned and sold the 5711 and very much appreciating the 5524, here are my thoughts.

the 5711 is THE ultimate steel sports watch,
go anywhere do anything.
it is timeless
it is a work of art that captures organic beauty.
it has 120m water resistance which is far more important to me if traveling than a second time zone as the 5524 on leather would have to be left in the hotel room because i wanted to spend time in the ocean or pool.

the 5524 is a spectacular looking watch with a great complication but it is not a 5711.

in all scenarios i would keep the 5711.

if you have to scratch that itch, try and get the 5524 without selling 5711 and after 6 months see which you are wearing then make your choice.




it is the only watch i have sold that i think about reacquiring... i have tired of and sold many.
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having owned and sold the 5711 and very much appreciating the 5524, here are my thoughts.

the 5711 is THE ultimate steel sports watch,
go anywhere do anything.
it is timeless
it is a work of art that captures organic beauty.
it has 120m water resistance which is far more important to me if traveling than a second time zone as the 5524 on leather would have to be left in the hotel room because i wanted to spend time in the ocean or pool.

the 5524 is a spectacular looking watch with a great complication but it is not a 5711.

in all scenarios i would keep the 5711.

if you have to scratch that itch, try and get the 5524 without selling 5711 and after 6 months see which you are wearing then make your choice.




it is the only watch i have sold that i think about reacquiring... i have tired of and sold many.


Good advice here. Get the 5524 and see if it sticks around. If so and you still have no feelings towards the 5711, sell it then. But parting with it and then wanting it back, that will be an issue.


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Tough call ... the 5711 is timeless and versatile. I would read every review on the 5524G and how it fits, and if possible try one on. Several have commented on the WOW factor fading over time.
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Old 19 November 2018, 04:03 AM   #24
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I wouldn’t do it, but then again I love the 5711 blue and the 5524g does nothing for me. If I were you, I’d keep the blue 5711, and trade your 5167 for a 5164
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having owned and sold the 5711 and very much appreciating the 5524, here are my thoughts.

the 5711 is THE ultimate steel sports watch,
go anywhere do anything.
it is timeless
it is a work of art that captures organic beauty.
it has 120m water resistance which is far more important to me if traveling than a second time zone as the 5524 on leather would have to be left in the hotel room because i wanted to spend time in the ocean or pool.

the 5524 is a spectacular looking watch with a great complication but it is not a 5711.

in all scenarios i would keep the 5711.

if you have to scratch that itch, try and get the 5524 without selling 5711 and after 6 months see which you are wearing then make your choice.




it is the only watch i have sold that i think about reacquiring... i have tired of and sold many.


Great advice...but...if only I had the resources to acquire the 5524 without selling the 5711.


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I wouldn't let go of the 5711 for the 5524g. To each his own, but it seems to me that you aren't even sold on the 5524g. It would be difficult to buy again the 5711, so if you really want to let it go, it should be for a watch you're completely in love with.


I’m halfway sold. On its own, I really like the 5524. But I have to think of it in terms of, I have to let go of something to get it, and I’m not that sold on letting go of the 5711 yet.


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If I were you, I’d keep the blue 5711, and trade your 5167 for a 5164

This is more possible.




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I prefer the 5164 but yeah I would. I don't think there is a current nautilus offering that I can't pick apart...well actually the new PC is visually ideal. Aside from that I have issues with all of them except the 5711 white but I don't think its worth secondary.
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