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harry in montreal · 4 July 2016, 11:05 AM

I am pretty shocked that this tudor got so far up there. It had an old C&I band. The Insert seemed correct and the dial was original. The hands seemed Somewhat too good to be true and the paddle was a bit small. The case was really original. I know Tudors have been climbing quick , but this seems to be really high

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131859677189...torefresh=true

Gina Marie · 4 July 2016, 11:51 AM

Yuuup. I thought 13.5 was it.....i was wrong
Let us see if the sale stands.

RCAFBuster · 4 July 2016, 01:06 PM

Stupid money. A much better one just sold for $9k and that was slightly high.
Buster

Max72 · 4 July 2016, 01:39 PM

Still can't have love for Tudors...
At that price could have had a really nice 1680 Red Sub

oldLeatherNeck · 4 July 2016, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max72

Still can't have love for Tudors...
At that price could have had a really nice 1680 Red Sub

Right on.

They came with the 290 movement, and they are a B to find parts and get serviced.

Don't know about the OP statement about the price "climbing quick" though. Perhaps because he's got one for sale since March?

harry in montreal · 4 July 2016, 02:09 PM

No, a 60s Tudor sub came with a 390 not a 290. I don't think Fleurier ever made a 290. Maybe on your planet where Tudor subs have not jumped in value over the past year. Are 1675s also still $3500 there too?

crowncollection · 4 July 2016, 02:28 PM

myself I would spent my money on something else but that's just me

Ticknaway · 4 July 2016, 03:08 PM

It does seem very high,but auctions can get crazy.

moyrules · 4 July 2016, 03:13 PM

Wow, it is crazy. I would prefer a lot of watches, even vintages, with that money

El éxito es 1% inspiración y 99% transpiración

Max72 · 4 July 2016, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

No, a 60s Tudor sub came with a 390 not a 290. I don't think Fleurier ever made a 290. Maybe on your planet where Tudor subs have not jumped in value over the past year. Are 1675s also still $3500 there too?

I guess it's a matter of personal preference, Tudors leave me indifferent, for
9K I'd have gotten a 1675

In the end a Rolex will always be a Rolex and a Tudor will never be a Rolex

harry in montreal · 4 July 2016, 03:20 PM

It seems nuts to me as well. Doesnt make sense.

jban5 · 4 July 2016, 03:48 PM

I think the price seems nuts too but how many of that particular variation are around? For a person who wants to collect different things I can see how a couple of people who are tired of waiting for the right example to come along.

Wouldn't be on my short list of things I'd want to drop $19,000 on.

zapokee · 4 July 2016, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max72

Still can't have love for Tudors...
At that price could have had a really nice 1680 Red Sub

But when you already have a really nice 1680 Red Sub, you have to take the collection somewhere...This price might look like a crazy bargain 10 years from now. Or even less.

TickTopia · 4 July 2016, 04:06 PM

There is now way that I'd be dropping 19k on a Tudor. Vintage or not, to me It doesn't make the slightest amount of sense.

oldLeatherNeck · 4 July 2016, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

No, a 60s Tudor sub came with a 390 not a 290. I don't think Fleurier ever made a 290. Maybe on your planet where Tudor subs have not jumped in value over the past year. Are 1675s also still $3500 there too?

That was a typo . Movement in the 7928 is indeed 390 not 290

eco8gator · 4 July 2016, 10:57 PM

I have this feeling some dishonest bidding took place...

No one that knows anything would pay that kind of money for that watch...EBay is a vile place for watch sales.

shawndww · 5 July 2016, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eco8gator

I have this feeling some dishonest bidding took place...

No one that knows anything would pay that kind of money for that watch...EBay is a vile place for watch sales.

7 different bidders in the end. You will know in a month from now if it is relisted. In the meantime go TUDOR go :)

BawlaDK · 7 July 2016, 10:51 PM

There is no sense in shelling out 19K on a Tudor.... But then again there is no sense in shelling out twice that amount or more for a vintage manual Daytona with a Valjoux 72 caliber either...Same thing. Vintage has never made sense and never will.... As long as there is less supply than demand, prices will always rise.

linesiders · 7 July 2016, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BawlaDK

There is no sense in shelling out 19K on a Tudor.... But then again there is no sense in shelling out twice that amount or more for a vintage manual Daytona with a Valjoux 72 caliber either...Same thing. Vintage has never made sense and never will.... As long as there is less supply than demand, prices will always rise.

So true

We are not doing this out of necessity, we are doing this out of want and passion and pleasure.

As for a Tudor making no sense: Pffffttt! Just because it is not in your wheelhouse does not make it worth not purchasing or desirable.

I would spend 9k on a Gilt Chapter Ring Tudor sub before a comparable 9K valued 1675 (Long E, small arrow, first gen matte) 4 out 5 days a week. It is preference.

As someone that is more Tudor obsessed than most, 19k was far too much for that watch based on the info on the auction.

Toronto Soup King · 7 July 2016, 11:59 PM

On the one hand I'm happy vintage prices keep going up making my modest collection worth more, on the other hand it is going to cost me more for that AK for my sister and WG DD for me, if/when I finally track down the ones I want!

On the gripping hand all these high values for physical-item investments make me worry about my stocks...

kyle L · 8 July 2016, 01:08 AM

Besides the condition, there might have been some tropical dial influence on the price as well...

Perpetual74 · 8 July 2016, 01:14 AM

in my opinion the watch is very beautiful and rare ... original chapter ring dial (very rare), pcg case, correct bezel and crown... the real problem of this watch may be the caliber 390 , the spare parts are unavailable or very expensive..
in any case it is a very rare watch in this configuration , perhaps rarer than the rich brother Rolex (which however in the same configuration would cost almost twice .. more or less )..

Frogman4me · 8 July 2016, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BawlaDK

There is no sense in shelling out 19K on a Tudor....

I will gladly shell out 19k for a Tudor 7031/32 or a 7922/24. All day long

Dan Pierce · 8 July 2016, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max72

I guess it's a matter of personal preference, Tudors leave me indifferent, for
9K I'd have gotten a 1675

In the end a Rolex will always be a Rolex and a Tudor will never be a Rolex

Some actually prefer watches over status.
dP

linesiders · 8 July 2016, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle L

Besides the condition, there might have been some tropical dial influence on the price as well...

Agree on the tropical as some of the Ebay photos have had that and Tropical has had a premium over regular - just difficult to tell on the shown photos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman4me

I will gladly shell out 19k for a Tudor 7031/32 MK1 or a 7922/24 BC. All day long

Me too

jdmi32 · 8 July 2016, 01:41 AM

Imagine the howls regarding the price if a 7928 with square crown guards had been sold.

Gina Marie · 8 July 2016, 01:43 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I remember when my uncle sold a Dino to a guy in Vancouver for 36k in the early 90's.....36k CAD. He thought he got one over on that guy.......he thinks about that car every day since. Tudors have gotten a lot more popular recently.....look at prices. I recall a post where someone was complaining where a snowflake full set sold for 8800.....well how many have you seen since and before....they don't come up often. Is this a bubble...i am not sure. I do know that these collectibles trade like a combination of stocks and gold but with less liquidity so you expect higher returns then with either of the previously mentioned......but there are a lot of issues out there so i go to guys like JR and Springer to help me much like i would listen to buffet or munger when discussing the economy (not that i am putting them in that pantheon but you know what i mean). Buy what you love and love what you buy.....they are not making any more of them....well hopefully not.

TudorSnowflake · 8 July 2016, 02:15 AM

A rising tide lifts all boats.

harry in montreal · 8 July 2016, 02:23 AM

Thank you for the comments. Put this up because I felt it sold for Double or triple what I felt it was worth. You guys know I have one that is incomplete. I just had a very hard time valuing it. Even when you can accept that it is worth what someone will offer... Tudurs seem like low production. As more Rolex guys gain interest I suppose the market moves. Earlier it was low demand and low supply. Seems like demand is picking up

Gina Marie · 8 July 2016, 02:29 AM

Coming from a rolex guy that has caught the tudor cold.....yes, demand is up but we should start seeing a rash of put together tudors hitting the market soon.....just like the 1680 reds that "appeared" when demand picked up...be diligent out there.

Recall also that Dino was the little, less produced brother of ferrari....who would put a v6 in a ferrari they said....well how many nice dinos are there and what is their value vs a 1979 308....

4 July 2016, 11:05 AM	#1
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Tudor Submariner 1961 just sold for $19k I am pretty shocked that this tudor got so far up there. It had an old C&I band. The Insert seemed correct and the dial was original. The hands seemed Somewhat too good to be true and the paddle was a bit small. The case was really original. I know Tudors have been climbing quick , but this seems to be really high http://www.ebay.com/itm/131859677189...torefresh=true

4 July 2016, 01:39 PM	#4
Max72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Chicago Watch: Explorer II 1655 Posts: 220	Tudor Submariner 1961 just sold for $19k Still can't have love for Tudors... At that price could have had a really nice 1680 Red Sub __________________ Greetings from Chicago

4 July 2016, 02:28 PM	#7
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	myself I would spent my money on something else but that's just me __________________ watches many

4 July 2016, 11:51 AM	#2
Gina Marie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Baby! Posts: 1,068	Yuuup. I thought 13.5 was it.....i was wrong Let us see if the sale stands.

4 July 2016, 01:06 PM	#3
RCAFBuster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Australia Watch: Too many to list Posts: 103	Stupid money. A much better one just sold for $9k and that was slightly high. Buster

4 July 2016, 02:09 PM	#6
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	No, a 60s Tudor sub came with a 390 not a 290. I don't think Fleurier ever made a 290. Maybe on your planet where Tudor subs have not jumped in value over the past year. Are 1675s also still $3500 there too?

4 July 2016, 03:08 PM	#8
Ticknaway "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: Dave Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,028	It does seem very high,but auctions can get crazy.

4 July 2016, 03:13 PM	#9
moyrules "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Moises Location: Oviedo (SPAIN) EU Watch: Some Zenith watche Posts: 26	Wow, it is crazy. I would prefer a lot of watches, even vintages, with that money El éxito es 1% inspiración y 99% transpiración

4 July 2016, 03:20 PM	#11
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	It seems nuts to me as well. Doesnt make sense.

4 July 2016, 03:48 PM	#12
jban5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: 5513~1675x2~1680~ Posts: 523	I think the price seems nuts too but how many of that particular variation are around? For a person who wants to collect different things I can see how a couple of people who are tired of waiting for the right example to come along. Wouldn't be on my short list of things I'd want to drop $19,000 on.

4 July 2016, 04:06 PM	#14
TickTopia 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Wild West, USA Posts: 1,406	There is now way that I'd be dropping 19k on a Tudor. Vintage or not, to me It doesn't make the slightest amount of sense.

4 July 2016, 10:57 PM	#16
eco8gator "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida Watch: 5060/a Posts: 1,119	I have this feeling some dishonest bidding took place... No one that knows anything would pay that kind of money for that watch...EBay is a vile place for watch sales.

7 July 2016, 10:51 PM	#18
BawlaDK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Morten Location: Denmark Watch: 16800 Submariner Posts: 265	There is no sense in shelling out 19K on a Tudor.... But then again there is no sense in shelling out twice that amount or more for a vintage manual Daytona with a Valjoux 72 caliber either...Same thing. Vintage has never made sense and never will.... As long as there is less supply than demand, prices will always rise.

7 July 2016, 11:59 PM	#20
Toronto Soup King "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Pete Location: Toronto, Canada Watch: 1016. Posts: 687	On the one hand I'm happy vintage prices keep going up making my modest collection worth more, on the other hand it is going to cost me more for that AK for my sister and WG DD for me, if/when I finally track down the ones I want! On the gripping hand all these high values for physical-item investments make me worry about my stocks...

8 July 2016, 01:08 AM	#21
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	Besides the condition, there might have been some tropical dial influence on the price as well...

8 July 2016, 01:14 AM	#22
Perpetual74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Rome Posts: 91	in my opinion the watch is very beautiful and rare ... original chapter ring dial (very rare), pcg case, correct bezel and crown... the real problem of this watch may be the caliber 390 , the spare parts are unavailable or very expensive.. in any case it is a very rare watch in this configuration , perhaps rarer than the rich brother Rolex (which however in the same configuration would cost almost twice .. more or less )..

8 July 2016, 01:41 AM	#26
jdmi32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Ky Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16570 Posts: 2,362	Imagine the howls regarding the price if a 7928 with square crown guards had been sold.

8 July 2016, 01:43 AM	#27
Gina Marie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Baby! Posts: 1,068	Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I remember when my uncle sold a Dino to a guy in Vancouver for 36k in the early 90's.....36k CAD. He thought he got one over on that guy.......he thinks about that car every day since. Tudors have gotten a lot more popular recently.....look at prices. I recall a post where someone was complaining where a snowflake full set sold for 8800.....well how many have you seen since and before....they don't come up often. Is this a bubble...i am not sure. I do know that these collectibles trade like a combination of stocks and gold but with less liquidity so you expect higher returns then with either of the previously mentioned......but there are a lot of issues out there so i go to guys like JR and Springer to help me much like i would listen to buffet or munger when discussing the economy (not that i am putting them in that pantheon but you know what i mean). Buy what you love and love what you buy.....they are not making any more of them....well hopefully not.

8 July 2016, 02:15 AM	#28
TudorSnowflake "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Erf Watch: Heritage Ranger Posts: 225	A rising tide lifts all boats.

8 July 2016, 02:23 AM	#29
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Thank you for the comments. Put this up because I felt it sold for Double or triple what I felt it was worth. You guys know I have one that is incomplete. I just had a very hard time valuing it. Even when you can accept that it is worth what someone will offer... Tudurs seem like low production. As more Rolex guys gain interest I suppose the market moves. Earlier it was low demand and low supply. Seems like demand is picking up

8 July 2016, 02:29 AM	#30
Gina Marie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Baby! Posts: 1,068	Coming from a rolex guy that has caught the tudor cold.....yes, demand is up but we should start seeing a rash of put together tudors hitting the market soon.....just like the 1680 reds that "appeared" when demand picked up...be diligent out there. Recall also that Dino was the little, less produced brother of ferrari....who would put a v6 in a ferrari they said....well how many nice dinos are there and what is their value vs a 1979 308....

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