Does this look authentic?

[jackass266]

At the risk of other potential bidders waking up and also placing a bid.
My eye has caught an auction by antiquorom of a tiffany dial 1675.

I know antiquorom doesn't have a very good reputation to say the least so thats why I'm asking the more knowlageable people here to take a look at below pictures to tell me if the tiffany 1675 is a fake or genuine.

My bancaccount thanks you in advance for your thoughts.

[MonBK]

Looks way off.

Perhaps another R. Moron special?

[jackass266]

Any other thoughts?
Hate to miss up on this one just cause one person tells me to run.

BTW they also have a blueberry for auction.

[droptopman]

No Tiffany expert but the Tiffany print looks sloppy and off compared to others I have seen. Like it was an afterthought and put on later. The rest of the dial looks genuine but can't place the model. Possibly a service dial?
Case looks OK, crown guards look real good and the insert is very nice.
Questions on the dial would put me off.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge will post.

[Toronto Soup King]

Would Tiffany have let a printing job like that get past them? That "T" looks like a different guy applied it from the "IFFANY". And you know Tiffany dials are only accepted as legit if you have the Tiffany paperwork to go with the watch.

Also no less than TWO occlusions from hands, covering bits of the printing. If you're showcasing the Tiffany dial it seems unusual you'd take pics with the hands covering the logo.

I'm no expert but I would recommend against this purchase.

WRT Blueberry, the gents here will tell you allll about those

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by jackass266

Any other thoughts?
Hate to miss up on this one just cause one person tells me to run.

BTW they also have a blueberry for auction.

If you like it (inspite of the warnings) then by all means buy it.

[gtnator]

The T in Tiffany looks off and the second F looks misaligned. At minimum I would ask more questions of the seller, but if it were me I'd walk away.


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[dysondiver]

Originally Posted by jackass266

Any other thoughts?
Hate to miss up on this one just cause one person tells me to run.

BTW they also have a blueberry for auction.

when mon says run ,,, the only question you need to ask ,,,,









is can i stop now.





and by then you should be a long way from where you started ,,, hth.

[Hpozzuoli]

My neighbor has that same watch. I just asked him when I could come by to take some pics. I haven't heard back yet so that means he might not be around. He answers quickly unless he can't answer. I can 100% tell you the Tiffany sign doesn't look like that. His T sits higher exactly like the image I found in Google. Despite the age everything is still crisp and sharp on his lettering.

I usually don't chime in on these threads, but I have seen this watch 100's of times on him and wore it myself. Personally I don't like how Tiffany is done and how Rolex at the top is done.

[77T]

Tiffany's silk screen skills were far better than that.
Perhaps do some quick research on bona fide Tiffany's of that era. The fonts and paints did vary a bit over time but I've never seen such a bad one.


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[77T]

And if it helps any, here's an era-correct Tiffany dial albeit on a Sub. The screening should look like this whether it was a GMT or Sub during that timeframe.




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[jackass266]

Was afraid of this. Just wanted a bit more confirmation as to run.

Thnx guys,

My piggybank thnx you aswell.

[offrdmania]

Also, is there any paperwork for the watch pertaining to Tiffany? A receipt from Tiffany showing the serial number? If there is nothing other than the sellers word, I would walk away. Why pay a premium for something that is commonly faked. The fat I and the distorted Y in Tiffany look way off to me. The lugs on that case look very overly polished too.

[joli160]

Many different Tiffany printing around and usually not so refined.
For me the only way I would buy a Tiffany dial if it comes with all the Tiffany and Rolex paperwork and than only from a respected seller

[watchgroupcorp]

It looks to me like it is hand painted under magnification. A pad printer wouldn't have done such scraggly work unless the artwork designer using Adobe Illustrator or a CAD program didn't understand the extremely easy process of ensuring that letters stay on one line. Hand engravers do some great work under scopes. I would bet that this is either added on after the fact by somebody with some really good hand painting skills - that don't come close to the precision of pad printing - or it's been refinished. Just doesn't seem to make sense to only refinish the T&C logo, though. In this situation, scraggly = #notgood

[Porter]

For a Tiffany's Rolex I wouldn't buy without paperwork.
If you are really happy buying this one, go for it!...without risk, without glory!!
Good luck.

[njs22]

Just looked at another Tiffany GMT for sale on the net and it looks nothing like this one sorry. The "T" is way off, have a look at this one.

[Phllox]

Owning a 1680 Tiffany & Co. I can only confirm that OP's 1675 does not have a genuine Tiffany dial

[mdw3]

Actually, there were many different Tiffany stampings over the long period in which Tiffany & Co was an authorized Rolex dealer (c. 1950-1990). In my experience, those Tiffany stampings shown by many of the posters on this thread are not correct for the period of the 1675 GMT in the upcoming auction. In fact, the Tiffany stamping of this GMT is, in my opinion, one of the accepted types for a Rolex model dating from the late 1960s. Please see attached two different examples of Daytona "Paul Newman" from the same period and bearing the same stamp.

Michael

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by njs22

Just looked at another Tiffany GMT for sale on the net and it looks nothing like this one sorry. The "T" is way off, have a look at this one.

This watch is mighty strange - a fake/Franken??.

GMT master yet the GMT hand is sandwiched????
Seconds hand also looks too short?

Adam

[Michael M.]

As Michael noted above, Tiffany stampings have been known to differ in terms of fonts used throughout the 1950's-1990's. The font seen on the 1675 in question does indeed appear to be correct.

The fonts other posters have referenced are from later era's (1970's-1980's).

[brandonwahl]

Originally Posted by jackass266

I know antiquorom doesn't have a very good reputation to say the least

I think you said everything you needed to say there. Buy the seller.

[Phllox]

OK that's a fact, fonts have changed, but with this 1675 letters are not even aligned

[fizz]

Shouldn't the 9 be open?

[Michael M.]

Originally Posted by Phllox

OK that's a fact, fonts have changed, but with this 1675 letters are not even aligned

While it may seem surprising, this font is commonly accepted by collectors and dealers as being correct for a watch produced in the 1960's.

The article below documents identical Tiffany & Co. signatures on watches produced in the 1960's.

http://www.watchprosite.com/?page=wf...476&pi=2864926

[mdw3]

Originally Posted by fizz

Shouldn't the 9 be open?

Does that bear on the authenticity of the Tiffany stamping on the dial?

[fizz]

Originally Posted by mdw3

Does that bear on the authenticity of the Tiffany stamping on the dial?

Unlikely, but that is a long E MK1 dial which should have open 9's as far as I know. So perhaps a replacement date wheel?

[mdw3]

Originally Posted by fizz

Unlikely, but that is a long E MK1 dial which should have open 9's as far as I know. So perhaps a replacement date wheel?

We are discussing the originality of a retailer stamp on what would be a $20K+ watch. I wouldn't get too hung up on a date wheel in this case.

Michael

[springer]

Originally Posted by fizz

Unlikely, but that is a long E MK1 dial which should have open 9's as far as I know. So perhaps a replacement date wheel?

I can't help but wonder and ask...are you really serious? You are really concerned about a date wheel?