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Old 16 May 2019, 03:22 AM   #211
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I'm of the opinion, based on the fact the dude admits to being in a hole, that he has no intention of doing the right thing. Best to start a civil suit in small claims court which allows you to claim up to $10K. Not expensive to file but the problem will be representation. Either fly and attend yourself (adding costs to the suit) or hire a representative who will act on your behalf.
I don't think anything else you suggested will have any clout and get results.
You canít squeeze blood out of a Turnup.Itís obvious this Guy has fallen on hard times so he robbed the OP.Sadly the OP isnít going to recover a dime even if he spends thousands on an Attorney.
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Old 16 May 2019, 03:29 AM   #212
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may have some good news pretty soon.

will keep you guys posted!
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Old 16 May 2019, 03:32 AM   #213
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i am pretty sure that losing a job almost immediately and having a record is doing him no good.

so the smarter way would be to pay me, even if its in separate payments.

it's my money anyway.
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Old 16 May 2019, 04:01 AM   #214
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I hope this all gets sorted in your favour OP. The thief really is either an idiot or shameless as heís still lurking on this thread.

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Unfortunately, small claims court action will likely yield no monetary compensation. Most likey, he won't show up on the hearing date and the OP will be awarded a default judgement. So now this guy has legal judgement on his record, but there is no enforcement mechanism. There are no debtor prisons in the U.S. The judgement may dog his future efforts at employment but those of his ilk don't worry about that.

Being in business, I've been down the small claims route before and frankly I wouldn't even consider it again. It's pretty much a waste of time unless you feel that having a judgement against him is satisfying.
Iím curious about this. The small claims court on this side of the pond has the power to authorise seizure of goods from people against whom judgements are awarded and these seizures are carried out by ďsheriffsĒ (bailiffs) who have pretty wide ranging powers which include forcing entry into commercial premises and impounding vehicles. Iím surprised to hear you guys donít have anything similar. It kind of begs the question, whatís the point of pursuing anything via the small claims court?
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Old 16 May 2019, 04:08 AM   #215
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I hope this all gets sorted in your favour OP. The thief really is either an idiot or shameless as heís still lurking on this thread.



Iím curious about this. The small claims court on this side of the pond has the power to authorise seizure of goods from people against whom judgements are awarded and these seizures are carried out by ďsheriffsĒ (bailiffs) who have pretty wide ranging powers which include forcing entry into commercial premises and impounding vehicles. Iím surprised to hear you guys donít have anything similar. It kind of begs the question, whatís the point of pursuing anything via the small claims court?
I wish it worked that way here, but unfortunately not so. The only time small claims works out here is if the defendant doesnít want a judgement hanging over their head and showing up on a credit report. Most of them just donít care!
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Old 16 May 2019, 04:10 AM   #216
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i am pretty sure that losing a job almost immediately and having a record is doing him no good.

so the smarter way would be to pay me, even if its in separate payments.

it's my money anyway.
I hope he sees sense and you get your funds returned. Knowing his employer def works in your favor. One call to his HR would yield quick repercussions.
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Old 16 May 2019, 04:16 AM   #217
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I wish it worked that way here, but unfortunately not so. The only time small claims works out here is if the defendant doesnít want a judgement hanging over their head and showing up on a credit report. Most of them just donít care!
Some useful info in case it gets to the point of making a claim
http://apps.americanbar.org/abastore...350234_ch5.pdf

If seller has assets, like home ownership, cars, other items of value, the amount awarded can be recovered. Worth checking the property tax records.
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Old 16 May 2019, 05:21 AM   #218
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Crazy story. Good luck OP. I bet he still reads this thread. I'll help by putting some key words on this page for future google searches:

Young Oh, felon, scammer, Bank of Hope, Los Angeles, California, IT Manager, fraud
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Old 16 May 2019, 05:35 AM   #219
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You should edit the title, so it doesn't show blame on Fedex

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Old 16 May 2019, 05:37 AM   #220
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This. Replace FedEx with Young Oh
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Old 16 May 2019, 05:58 AM   #221
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Is there a proof the system was really down?
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Old 16 May 2019, 06:02 AM   #222
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Is there a proof the system was really down?
At this point can't we likely conclude that the fedex excuse was a lie? This guy wouldnt be on other forums begging for quick cash if it was really the fault of FedEx.

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Old 16 May 2019, 06:11 AM   #223
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Young Oh should be more worried about his employer pressing criminal charges against him for using bank documents to commit fraud internationally than the OP bringing him to small claims court. He obviously didn't think this one through.
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Old 16 May 2019, 06:27 AM   #224
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Young Oh should be more worried about his employer pressing criminal charges against him for using bank documents to commit fraud internationally than the OP bringing him to small claims court. He obviously didn't think this one through.
Agreed,The Police and Court System are just about useless.
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Old 16 May 2019, 06:29 AM   #225
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By the time he gets out of prison will they be calling him Old Oh?
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Old 16 May 2019, 06:34 AM   #226
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What a nightmare... keep us updated OP. Sending you good thoughts.
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Old 16 May 2019, 06:43 AM   #227
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may have some good news pretty soon.

will keep you guys posted!


Be careful Darryll. These kinds of guys will say whatever you want to hear just to stall you a bit more. Stick to your resolve of skewering him if he doesnít meet your deadline.


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Old 16 May 2019, 06:57 AM   #228
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I got good news, at least i have won half the battle.

the seller agreed to give me the hulk instead of wire because he doesn't have the funds at all. he could have told he didn't have it and i would give him some time but instead he chose the stupid way and kept me running in circles.

got my friend to meet him up in Gardena LA, retrieve the watch from him.

now its in the safe hands of my friend.

i am happy to have gotten many text messages from all the friends i have made here. thank you all who contributed your input.

Now, on to phase 2, trying to find out what happened to the BLNR because seller claims that he has sent it for sure, went to fedex and got them to investigate.
so i told him to give me a update on it, via email.

let's see how it turns out
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Old 16 May 2019, 06:58 AM   #229
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i can't.

but still the real case is the BLNR is still missing.

nothing was received.
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Old 16 May 2019, 07:00 AM   #230
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I really question he dropped the watch at FedEx.
Did you check with FedEx to see if they had an outage on the days he said he dropped it off?
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Old 16 May 2019, 07:00 AM   #231
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I got good news, at least i have won half the battle.

the seller agreed to give me the hulk instead of wire because he doesn't have the funds at all. he could have told he didn't have it and i would give him some time but instead he chose the stupid way and kept me running in circles.

got my friend to meet him up in Gardena LA, retrieve the watch from him.

now its in the safe hands of my friend.

i am happy to have gotten many text messages from all the friends i have made here. thank you all who contributed your input.

Now, on to phase 2, trying to find out what happened to the BLNR because seller claims that he has sent it for sure, went to fedex and got them to investigate.
so i told him to give me a update on it, via email.

let's see how it turns out
That's good news for now. I'm happy you have the hulk at least.

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Old 16 May 2019, 07:02 AM   #232
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I really question he dropped the watch at FedEx.
Did you check with FedEx to see if they had an outage on the days he said he dropped it off?
my local fedex is running the cctv and system log as we speak.

they have done the checks in Singapore, no abnormalities.

now they're moving to the US ship centre for investigation
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Old 16 May 2019, 07:03 AM   #233
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That's good news for now. I'm happy you have the hulk at least.

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Old 16 May 2019, 07:16 AM   #234
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hope the Lv is not a fake, i would have it checked out,unless your friend knows what he is looking at, never know with people. just my 2cents
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Old 16 May 2019, 07:26 AM   #235
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Wow! I wonder what happen on his end for him to do this. Based on his credit history, my WAG is that he's living beyond his means.
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Old 16 May 2019, 07:29 AM   #236
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hope the Lv is not a fake, i would have it checked out,unless your friend knows what he is looking at, never know with people. just my 2cents
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Old 16 May 2019, 07:35 AM   #237
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hope the Lv is not a fake, i would have it checked out,unless your friend knows what he is looking at, never know with people. just my 2cents
Exactly my thoughts.Maybe it took him a week for the knockoff to arrive which is why he stalled?
Hopefully this isn't the case, though.
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Old 16 May 2019, 07:37 AM   #238
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Stolen watch by Fedex Outlet at California Gardena

If heís really that strapped for cash, this guy had no business trying to keep a Hulk. Iíd rather have zero possessions than to feel backed into a financial corner.


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Old 16 May 2019, 07:39 AM   #239
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I cannot read all of this thread. It hurts my head.

Last year I bought a watch (by wire) from a trusted seller here. The seller didn't have the wire within 2 hours and I texted him a screen capture from my bank account's app that showed the amount of the wire deducted from my bank account and the wire confirmation from my bank. It was not some hand-written document that anybody could have done. There are a lot of methods of proving that you've sent funds - the seller didn't provide anything of substance.

I'm glad that the OP got (or is getting) a watch from this. My guess is that will be all he gets. And hopeful that the watch is legitimate.
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Old 16 May 2019, 07:46 AM   #240
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Sad story indeed.
So you got a LV from him, hopefully it is genuine. Did he offer any explanation for giving you a fake bank wire document days ago? The same guy who facetime'd you and lied to your face... capable of anything.

I suspect he has given you a fake watch and I am in doubt he even had a BLNR in the first instance.

I hope you get this resolved, next time (if there is one) you must buy from a trusted seller.
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