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cbalster · 27 May 2020, 04:45 AM

I have spent some time contemplating my first Patek and the references that speaks to me.

I know I want a yellow gold Patek with a display back and a date aperture on strap, 36-40mm. References 5117-J and 5053-J sing to me. Would the Patek experts here recommend any other references worth considering?

I don't want to go into complications since I prefer a simple dial and I already have a JLC Reverso Triple Calendar Moonphase in Rose Gold. However perhaps I can be swayed towards 5015-J and/or 5054-J though I am a bit concerned the dial is too busy. I do like this movement.

Flex368 · 27 May 2020, 06:03 AM

What about a 5711J? Ticks all the boxes.

3 Putt · 27 May 2020, 06:15 AM

Also...5127J. Made over a limited time frame, display back, calendar and 37mm. Similar to the 5117J without a hobnail bezel. OCROLEXGUY, a trusted seller, has one for sale now.

cbalster · 27 May 2020, 06:24 AM

thx for the suggestions. regarding 5711, don't think it's my thing. 5711 in my mind has to be steel, and the bracelet is such a big part of what the watch is. I am not that into steel bracelets.

5127J is very nice but I find the dials of 5053 and 5117 more attractive. The officer's caseback of the 5053 in particular is a selling point.

cbalster · 27 May 2020, 06:28 AM

Sorry I meant 5153 and not 5053 this whole time

ts3 · 27 May 2020, 06:41 AM

Pity they didn't make the 5296 in yellow gold IIRC... How about the 5227J though?

I find the combination of crown guards and hobnail bezel on the 5117 a little weird and much prefer the 5107 and 5127 as well as 5153 out of those that tick your boxes.

B01fan · 27 May 2020, 12:02 PM

5107 or 5127 would be a nice classic choice.

5153 also a good option with the 38mm size and hinged back. Could probably get a deal on that one as I doubt demand is that high.

jd57 · 28 May 2020, 01:09 AM

Will echo the suggestion of the 5227j. The concave bezel makes it wear a little small which is a negative for me but a positive for some. Certainly if 36-40 is your range this will be in the sweet spot. The intricate case, trapezoidal indices, pilot feature of the case back, and lacquer dial are relatively unique and I think the lacquer dial of the j actually looks brighter and better than the r (which appears more beige) or g (which looks a bit green).

Murcielagoboy2 · 28 May 2020, 01:28 AM

5227j beautiful but a touch expensive and maybe a bit too big
5107j lovely but the bezel is a touch large and controversial. Looks best in P format.
5119j great beautifully designed watch but very formal.
5127j meets all criteria - some don’t like the crown guards.

I went with the final option myself

jon_jon · 28 May 2020, 02:23 AM

A Calatrava in YG will always be a classic, even though YG dress watches are not as popular as they used to.

The 5153 is a nice watch. It has the officer's caseback and also a deployant clasp. Not many Calatravas come with a deployant clasp and these are a few thousand dollar extra. So the list price for the 5153 has traditionally been higher than most other Calatravas.

I own a 5153G LE and it is a good size on the wrist, compared to some of the smaller Calatravas.

If you can try on these watches, it may make the decision easier for you.

ts3 · 28 May 2020, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murcielagoboy2

5227j beautiful but a touch expensive and maybe a bit too big
5107j lovely but the bezel is a touch large and controversial. Looks best in P format.
5119j great beautifully designed watch but very formal.
5127j meets all criteria - some don’t like the crown guards.

I went with the final option myself

Nice summary!

I ever get a second (halfway) modern Calatrava it may well be the stealthy 5107P.

yessir69 · 28 May 2020, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3 Putt

Also...5127J. Made over a limited time frame, display back, calendar and 37mm. Similar to the 5117J without a hobnail bezel. OCROLEXGUY, a trusted seller, has one for sale now.

Link to ocrolexguys’s 5127j?

AK797 · 28 May 2020, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbalster

thx for the suggestions. regarding 5711, don't think it's my thing. 5711 in my mind has to be steel, and the bracelet is such a big part of what the watch is. I am not that into steel bracelets.

5127J is very nice but I find the dials of 5053 and 5117 more attractive. The officer's caseback of the 5053 in particular is a selling point.

I wore a 5711J for a while and was very impressed with the strap, very nice quality and yet was robust, it would not put me off if you like the Nautilus style over the Calatravas, feels very much like a dress piece.

3 Putt · 28 May 2020, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yessir69

Link to ocrolexguys’s 5127j?

He is a trusted seller on this forum. https://www.ocwatchguy.com/products/32

MadSpaniard · 29 May 2020, 04:50 AM

5227 although I'd recommend it in R, which I think suits this reference particularly well (and is the version I own). The larger 39mm size of the 5227 also wears well both now and into the future.

Previously I owned a 5015R which is nice, but at 35mm small by today's standards and frankly I didn't find it very comfortable on the wrist either, which is why I got the 5227R (the hinge case back being a standout feature on the 5015 and especially on the 5227).

27 May 2020, 04:45 AM	#1
cbalster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Hillsborough Posts: 729	Yellow Gold on Strap with Date Aperture I have spent some time contemplating my first Patek and the references that speaks to me. I know I want a yellow gold Patek with a display back and a date aperture on strap, 36-40mm. References 5117-J and 5053-J sing to me. Would the Patek experts here recommend any other references worth considering? I don't want to go into complications since I prefer a simple dial and I already have a JLC Reverso Triple Calendar Moonphase in Rose Gold. However perhaps I can be swayed towards 5015-J and/or 5054-J though I am a bit concerned the dial is too busy. I do like this movement.

27 May 2020, 06:15 AM	#3
3 Putt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida/China Watch: All of them Posts: 240	Also...5127J. Made over a limited time frame, display back, calendar and 37mm. Similar to the 5117J without a hobnail bezel. OCROLEXGUY, a trusted seller, has one for sale now. __________________ “If you drink, don’t drive. Don’t even putt.” ― Dean Martin

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27 May 2020, 06:03 AM	#2
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 2,973	What about a 5711J? Ticks all the boxes.

27 May 2020, 06:24 AM	#4
cbalster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Hillsborough Posts: 729	thx for the suggestions. regarding 5711, don't think it's my thing. 5711 in my mind has to be steel, and the bracelet is such a big part of what the watch is. I am not that into steel bracelets. 5127J is very nice but I find the dials of 5053 and 5117 more attractive. The officer's caseback of the 5053 in particular is a selling point.

27 May 2020, 06:28 AM	#5
cbalster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Hillsborough Posts: 729	Sorry I meant 5153 and not 5053 this whole time

27 May 2020, 06:41 AM	#6
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,221	Pity they didn't make the 5296 in yellow gold IIRC... How about the 5227J though? I find the combination of crown guards and hobnail bezel on the 5117 a little weird and much prefer the 5107 and 5127 as well as 5153 out of those that tick your boxes.

27 May 2020, 12:02 PM	#7
B01fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: World traveler Posts: 95	5107 or 5127 would be a nice classic choice. 5153 also a good option with the 38mm size and hinged back. Could probably get a deal on that one as I doubt demand is that high.

28 May 2020, 01:09 AM	#8
jd57 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 564	Will echo the suggestion of the 5227j. The concave bezel makes it wear a little small which is a negative for me but a positive for some. Certainly if 36-40 is your range this will be in the sweet spot. The intricate case, trapezoidal indices, pilot feature of the case back, and lacquer dial are relatively unique and I think the lacquer dial of the j actually looks brighter and better than the r (which appears more beige) or g (which looks a bit green).

28 May 2020, 01:28 AM	#9
Murcielagoboy2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: London Posts: 431	5227j beautiful but a touch expensive and maybe a bit too big 5107j lovely but the bezel is a touch large and controversial. Looks best in P format. 5119j great beautifully designed watch but very formal. 5127j meets all criteria - some don’t like the crown guards. I went with the final option myself

28 May 2020, 02:23 AM	#10
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,341	A Calatrava in YG will always be a classic, even though YG dress watches are not as popular as they used to. The 5153 is a nice watch. It has the officer's caseback and also a deployant clasp. Not many Calatravas come with a deployant clasp and these are a few thousand dollar extra. So the list price for the 5153 has traditionally been higher than most other Calatravas. I own a 5153G LE and it is a good size on the wrist, compared to some of the smaller Calatravas. If you can try on these watches, it may make the decision easier for you.

29 May 2020, 04:50 AM	#15
MadSpaniard "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Atlanta Posts: 343	5227 although I'd recommend it in R, which I think suits this reference particularly well (and is the version I own). The larger 39mm size of the 5227 also wears well both now and into the future. Previously I owned a 5015R which is nice, but at 35mm small by today's standards and frankly I didn't find it very comfortable on the wrist either, which is why I got the 5227R (the hinge case back being a standout feature on the 5015 and especially on the 5227).

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