Which is your favourite PP World Timer

[KarlS]

Just a bit of fun as the 5110 has a really strong fan base and the 5130 has a lot of haters due to the hands. I am not convinced the new 5230 has "hit it on the head" but seems to have gone back to the 5110 rots. Yes I know the 5110P is wonderful and I am sure someone is going to post that they love the 5575...but those aren't the choices!!

[SearChart]

The 5110 because it's smaller and I like the dial better than the 5130 and 5230. But the 5230 is a lot nicer than the 5130, especially the dial and hour hand. I like the new case design also.

[mps354]

I'd rank them 5110, 5230, 5130

[vecioalpinn]

5130 more soft

[archer75]

How do you handle DST (daylight saving time) adjustments with these worldtimers?

[subtona]

5110 of those choices.

The white dials are significantly easier to read than black.

Side note the hands on the 5930 are my clear favorite.

[belk7]

5110 for me. They just go so much right with this one.

[blcblc]

5110, but 5230 is growing on me

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by archer75

How do you handle DST (daylight saving time) adjustments with these worldtimers?

I just adjust the time again as +1 on UTC to local time as I will do tomorrow. This is only 24 time zones. The VC has all of them!

[archer75]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I just adjust the time again as +1 on UTC to local time as I will do tomorrow. This is only 24 time zones. The VC has all of them!

Yes. But how it will work with the locations where they do not use DST. For instance, London-Dubai time difference is 4 hours today but it will be 3 hours tomorrow. According to city ring, isn't it fixed as 4 hours difference?

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by archer75

Yes. But how it will work with the locations where they do not use DST. For instance, London-Dubai time difference is 4 hours today but it will be 3 hours tomorrow. According to city ring, isn't it fixed as 4 hours difference?

Click the button until the ring shows the correct time in London after BST. Then pull the crown out and adjust the hands to local time in say Dubai. When you click to get the ring to Dubai you will find the hand have also moved and then I adjust backwards. Seems to work I remember from last time but will find out tomorrow!!

[archer75]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Click the button until the ring shows the correct time in London after BST. Then pull the crown out and adjust the hands to local time in say Dubai. When you click to get the ring to Dubai you will find the hand have also moved and then I adjust backwards. Seems to work I remember from last time but will find out tomorrow!!

I don't hv a WT to try it out but it is good to see there is a way to do it. I appreciate if you can take a picture of dial today and after you adjust tomorrow to post here.


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[Fiery]

None of those. I'd pick the brand new 5930G instead :) Or the 5575...

[thomaspp]

5110. But would really try to stretch for the P.


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[KarlS]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Click the button until the ring shows the correct time in London after BST. Then pull the crown out and adjust the hands to local time in say Dubai. When you click to get the ring to Dubai you will find the hand have also moved and then I adjust backwards. Seems to work I remember from last time but will find out tomorrow!!

Crumpets you may be correct. I just got back from business trip and it had stopped and no matter what you do its 3 hours difference which does make sense if yo just count the number of zones away from London. So it wont pick up any daylight saving including australia...I know i asked the same question on buying and they confirmed that it didnt but must have been pure fluke that it was on the right zone and hence always looked correct. so basically its correct 50% of the year

[archer75]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Crumpets you may be correct. I just got back from business trip and it had stopped and no matter what you do its 3 hours difference which does make sense if yo just count the number of zones away from London. So it wont pick up any daylight saving including australia...I know i asked the same question on buying and they confirmed that it didnt but must have been pure fluke that it was on the right zone and hence always looked correct. so basically its correct 50% of the year

Thanks for checking this out. I was suspicious on this that was the reason why I questioned. I did not find any reference at PP website either. Some WT'ers in fact handle it, I hv not seen how it works but will check out. For your reference, there is an example. You can see cities with the dst applicable, a line and a star is next to the those cities. I will find out if the complication handle it by adjusting city mark to this star or you just manually read it by knowing it is summer time so calculate the time difference.



I am bit frusturated to see PP can not handle it, may be there is a way that we do not know but the solution by other manufactures is not there at PP dial.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by archer75

Thanks for checking this out. I was suspicious on this that was the reason why I questioned. I did not find any reference at PP website either. Some WT'ers in fact handle it, I hv not seen how it works but will check out. For your reference, there is an example. You can see cities with the dst applicable, a line and a star is next to the those cities. I will find out if the complication handle it by adjusting city mark to this star or you just manually read it by knowing it is summer time so calculate the time difference.



I am bit frustrated to see PP can not handle it, may be there is a way that we do not know but the solution by other manufactures is not there at PP dial.

The JLC on this and the previous model had the same star. Sadly the JLC photographs better than in the person. The only solution is that when we have UTC + 1 is that we presume London=Paris and when we go back to UTC it reverts to London. This is the same as having a little * above Paris I guess. The strangest thing is that it ignores India and a huge market but then I guess that's to stop the dial becoming even more complicated like the Vacheron. Also cities changing timen zones making the watch obsolete is an issue which VC have sorted through a purchase of a new city dial whenever this changes which the PP cannot do.

[archer75]

Originally Posted by KarlS

The JLC on this and the previous model had the same star. Sadly the JLC photographs better than in the person. The only solution is that when we have UTC + 1 is that we presume London=Paris and when we go back to UTC it reverts to London. This is the same as having a little * above Paris I guess. The strangest thing is that it ignores India and a huge market but then I guess that's to stop the dial becoming even more complicated like the Vacheron. Also cities changing timen zones making the watch obsolete is an issue which VC have sorted through a purchase of a new city dial whenever this changes which the PP cannot do.

I agree on JLC- it is better looking at the photos.
London=Paris could one solution but what abt others? Then, u need to know if your destination is on summer time or not. I also agree VC which hv 37 zones has a busy dial.
I started to think maybe dual times are better in use than WT's.
There are also some dual times with city ring or city names suc as Lange 1 Time zone and JLC Geographic and I understand JLC handles summer time.

[KarlS]

I had the JLC Geographicbut it's really a GMT. Also I couldn't read the hands but loved the watch. Obviously those without summer time changes will be accurate it others won't. Guess u would have to know Brisbane has e.g. But definitely will chat to Patek guys when I go see the mock up the 5930 on the 12th. Function over Form is imperative!!

[archer75]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I had the JLC Geographicbut it's really a GMT. Also I couldn't read the hands but loved the watch. Obviously those without summer time changes will be accurate it others won't. Guess u would have to know Brisbane has e.g. But definitely will chat to Patek guys when I go see the mock up the 5930 on the 12th. Function over Form is imperative!!

Yes, Geographic and Timezone are dual times not WT and the only addition from a normal dual zone is that you can set the destination time by changing to city names similiar to WT.
Pls ask PP guys, still the best looking WT's are from PP and I hope they hv the function as well.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by archer75

Yes, Geographic and Timezone are dual times not WT and the only addition from a normal dual zone is that you can set the destination time by changing to city names similiar to WT.
Pls ask PP guys, still the best looking WT's are from PP and I hope they hv the function as well.

look at Breguet Hora Mundi

[archer75]

Originally Posted by KarlS

look at Breguet Hora Mundi

Very good but still prefer PP WT to work at the way I wanted it to be 😊

[HauteHorlogerie]

5131g

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by archer75

Thanks for checking this out. I was suspicious on this that was the reason why I questioned. I did not find any reference at PP website either. Some WT'ers in fact handle it, I hv not seen how it works but will check out. For your reference, there is an example. You can see cities with the dst applicable, a line and a star is next to the those cities. I will find out if the complication handle it by adjusting city mark to this star or you just manually read it by knowing it is summer time so calculate the time difference.



I am bit frusturated to see PP can not handle it, may be there is a way that we do not know but the solution by other manufactures is not there at PP dial.

Wow.

[Russell996]

This!




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[Russell996]

This!



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[el1125]

This one in J. Followed by the 5575...

[KarlS]

Def agree on 5575 and my favourite. But to spend $100k on a watch that wasn't particularly rare and has Moscow in the wrong time zone doesn't work for me!

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Def agree on 5575 and my favourite. But to spend $100k on a watch that wasn't particularly rare and has Moscow in the wrong time zone doesn't work for me!

5575 is a lovely watch - I guess PP will finish deliveries of the 1300 pieces quite soon?

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by Russell996

5575 is a lovely watch - I guess PP will finish deliveries of the 1300 pieces quite soon?

Final delivered last year!