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soundserious · 12 January 2018, 04:27 PM

The cheaper one for me, couldn't afford the 12.

cstar · 12 January 2018, 09:36 PM

I can see no love for the 26, aka 5726?

tyler1980 · 12 January 2018, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Custom02

The fact of the matter is this! Many 5712 owners- if they are honest with themselves would really quite like to have been 5711 owners if availability had allowed but couldn't be bothered with the wait/hassle. Up until 2/3 years ago blue 5712's (and blue 5980's) were much much easier to come by and for the person craving an instant Nautilus hit many hovered up this model instead.

I agree in the fact that strong resale has made the 12 more attractive recently since it won't lose money on a flip maybe pushing those on the fence into a purchase. It has made it more popular to buy based on financials no question. I doubt very many people though got one or the other that they didn't want because it was the only one they could get. Some people like both and cant decide and get the available one sure, but settling for 2nd choice I wouldn't do that and cant imagine many would.

tng11 · 12 January 2018, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Custom02

The fact of the matter is this! Many 5712 owners- if they are honest with themselves would really quite like to have been 5711 owners if availability had allowed but couldn't be bothered with the wait/hassle. Up until 2/3 years ago blue 5712's (and blue 5980's) were much much easier to come by and for the person craving an instant Nautilus hit many hovered up this model instead.

Not here. The 5711 never really interested me. When I was looking for the next iconic piece, it came down to between the 5711 and 15202 when the 5711 was still obtainable. I chose the 15202 in the end as the 5711 didn't excite me.

Given the choice today if offered both by an AD and money aside, I would easily pick the 5712. I like the "collected chaos" of the dial, the 240 movement, and the fact that there's more going on (less likely to be bored in the long run.) I only wish I decided to pull the trigger earlier on, and I regret passing on the few opportunities I've had to buy them since they've skyrocketed in price. In September, I thought 36K was too much to pay for BNIB sealed, but how wrong I was.

goog53 · 12 January 2018, 11:08 PM

The 5711 is many times a first Patek bought because Rolex Sports models dominate the industry and those potential owners who look for a versatile and sporty option within the brand have limited choices. The Nautilus is a gateway drug to get into the brand and higher complications. I dont believe guys are settling on a 5712 because they cant get a 5711 especially when it is $8360 more.

AK797 · 12 January 2018, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tng11

Not here. The 5711 never really interested me. When I was looking for the next iconic piece, it came down to between the 5711 and 15202 when the 5711 was still obtainable. I chose the 15202 in the end as the 5711 didn't excite me.

Given the choice today if offered both by an AD and money aside, I would easily pick the 5712. I like the "collected chaos" of the dial, the 240 movement, and the fact that there's more going on (less likely to be bored in the long run.) I only wish I decided to pull the trigger earlier on, and I regret passing on the few opportunities I've had to buy them since they've skyrocketed in price. In September, I thought 36K was too much to pay for BNIB sealed, but how wrong I was.

What's the price now?

codecow · 13 January 2018, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

The 5711 is many times a first Patek bought because Rolex Sports models dominate the industry and those potential owners who look for a versatile and sporty option within the brand have limited choices. The Nautilus is a gateway drug to get into the brand and higher complications. I dont believe guys are settling on a 5712 because they cant get a 5711 especially when it is $8360 more.

No way is one "settling" for a 5712 with the complications and the 240 movement.

The dial is not for everyone, but I love it.

goog53 · 13 January 2018, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by codecow

No way is one "settling" for a 5712 with the complications and the 240 movement.

The dial is not for everyone, but I love it.

I love it as well! A gentleman on here stated most people who have the 5712 bought because they could not get a 5711 which I politely disagree with.

goog53 · 13 January 2018, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ak797

what's the price now?

5711: $24,846
5712: $33,227

tng11 · 13 January 2018, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

What's the price now?

Grey prices are now in the 40s.

I am hopeful however, that I will get one at MSRP from an AD that told me they could deliver by year-end.

dr35mm · 13 January 2018, 12:51 AM

White dial 5711

AK797 · 13 January 2018, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tng11

Grey prices are now in the 40s.

I am hopeful however, that I will get one at MSRP from an AD that told me they could deliver by year-end.

I thought oh, that's very good... until I realised we are in Jan.

Well above $45K here.

AK797 · 13 January 2018, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

5711: $24,846
5712: $33,227

Once were so beautiful... and yet many times in the past have I railed against paying that much for a basic steel three-hander... times they sure are a changing.

tyler1980 · 13 January 2018, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tng11

I am hopeful however, that I will get one at MSRP from an AD that told me they could deliver by year-end.

you are the new Lapince. The incoming that just kept going on and on.

tng11 · 13 January 2018, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

you are the new Lapince. The incoming that just kept going on and on.

Shall I make a new thread announcing the lead up to the incoming?

Of course, knowing my luck, I'll have the rug pulled under me, or it'll come in and it'll have to be served up a-la-mode.

tyler1980 · 13 January 2018, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tng11

Shall I make a new thread announcing the lead up to the incoming?

Of course, knowing my luck, I'll have the rug pulled under me, or it'll come in and it'll have to be served up a-la-mode.

your 5712 journey would make for excellent reading, as long as it comes in the end

rossi46 · 13 January 2018, 03:34 AM

5711 for me - it's the closest thing we have to Genta's original masterpiece.

Too bad current market prices means I'll never be an owner.

codecow · 13 January 2018, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

I love it as well! A gentleman on here stated most people who have the 5712 bought because they could not get a 5711 which I politely disagree with.

Haha that's nutty they're not really even similar other than the case.

slashd0t · 13 January 2018, 05:37 AM

I love both, but I ended up going with a 5712.... For me, the dial is unique, I quite like the moon complication and the micro rotor/movement is just more interesting.

That said, the 5711 really drives the "less is more" value IMO .. There is something to be said for how perfectly straight forward that watch is.. Completely under the radar, but if you study it, you realize it's far from straight forward/simple and actually incredibly detailed..

Both are incredible pieces, but I go 12 :)

Jareddad · 13 January 2018, 05:47 AM

I was lucky enough to get a 5711 already. Getting a 5712 hopefully soon. I'm feeling like I'm going to keep both watches and continue my Patek obsession.... also have a 5164 now. My goodness this sickness is BAD!!!

Helmi · 13 January 2018, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jareddad

I was lucky enough to get a 5711 already. Getting a 5712 hopefully soon. I'm feeling like I'm going to keep both watches and continue my Patek obsession.... also have a 5164 now. My goodness this sickness is BAD!!!

That is exactly my plan too. These are the kings of SS watches. Awesome

tyler1980 · 13 January 2018, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jareddad

I was lucky enough to get a 5711 already. Getting a 5712 hopefully soon. I'm feeling like I'm going to keep both watches and continue my Patek obsession.... also have a 5164 now. My goodness this sickness is BAD!!!

good luck

That would make a great trio of Patek sports watches.

onmyhand · 14 January 2018, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jareddad

I was lucky enough to get a 5711 already. Getting a 5712 hopefully soon. I'm feeling like I'm going to keep both watches and continue my Patek obsession.... also have a 5164 now. My goodness this sickness is BAD!!!

I understand what you're going through. Within a short period, I have accumulated quite a number of PP. Yes, seems like an obsession........but PP watches are all so nice. First I started with a 5726. Then a 5711. Of course, if you have a 5711, you must have a 5712.

onmyhand · 14 January 2018, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jareddad

I was lucky enough to get a 5711 already. Getting a 5712 hopefully soon. I'm feeling like I'm going to keep both watches and continue my Patek obsession.... also have a 5164 now. My goodness this sickness is BAD!!!

I understand your feeling. Seems like an obsession too to me but PP watches are all so nice.
I think most would not stop at one. I started off with 5726. Then 5711. When you have the 5711, you must have the 5712.
And then PP start creating something nice and your yearning begin again....ha ha.....

greatmattsby · 14 January 2018, 03:19 AM

I remember being drawn into the dial of the 5712 at a time that I didn’t yet appreciate the nautilus. A number of years and a couple of Pateks later, I had to have it. Seems like the little guy might have the same experience!

I can confirm that 60m WR is suitable for slobber!

Jareddad · 14 January 2018, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by onmyhand

I understand your feeling. Seems like an obsession too to me but PP watches are all so nice.
I think most would not stop at one. I started off with 5726. Then 5711. When you have the 5711, you must have the 5712.
And then PP start creating something nice and your yearning begin again....ha ha.....

Haha. Yes, an obsession. I'm already thinking after I have these 3 sports models, what's next??? Gotta be a strap model, maybe a chrono?? AC?

nyc2la · 14 January 2018, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jareddad

Haha. Yes, an obsession. I'm already thinking after I have these 3 sports models, what's next??? Gotta be a strap model, maybe a chrono?? AC?

This, and call it a day.

Jareddad · 14 January 2018, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nyc2la

This, and call it a day.

I've seen your pic like 20 times and I am amazed every single time!!! That is a brilliant watch sir! But that is some serious $$$! This may be the choice!

charcoal6666 · 17 January 2018, 07:59 PM

This is like asking if you wanna chop off your right hand or left hand, you only get to keep one....

Hairdude1 · 19 January 2018, 11:40 AM

I prefer the 11

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12 January 2018, 04:27 PM	#61
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	The cheaper one for me, couldn't afford the 12. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

12 January 2018, 11:08 PM	#65
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,060	The 5711 is many times a first Patek bought because Rolex Sports models dominate the industry and those potential owners who look for a versatile and sporty option within the brand have limited choices. The Nautilus is a gateway drug to get into the brand and higher complications. I dont believe guys are settling on a 5712 because they cant get a 5711 especially when it is $8360 more. __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

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13 January 2018, 03:34 AM	#77
rossi46 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: CT, by a lake Watch: shopping Posts: 1,465	5711 for me - it's the closest thing we have to Genta's original masterpiece. Too bad current market prices means I'll never be an owner. __________________ A watch is about the entire package, not just its appearance. Any large watch company not making its own movement is not making a watch at all; they’re just playing dress-up. --The Watch Snob

12 January 2018, 09:36 PM	#62
cstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Sydney Posts: 69	I can see no love for the 26, aka 5726?

13 January 2018, 05:37 AM	#79
slashd0t "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Jamie Location: Edmonton, AB Watch: This & That Posts: 771	I love both, but I ended up going with a 5712.... For me, the dial is unique, I quite like the moon complication and the micro rotor/movement is just more interesting. That said, the 5711 really drives the "less is more" value IMO .. There is something to be said for how perfectly straight forward that watch is.. Completely under the radar, but if you study it, you realize it's far from straight forward/simple and actually incredibly detailed.. Both are incredible pieces, but I go 12 :) __________________ /.

13 January 2018, 05:47 AM	#80
Jareddad "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 326	I was lucky enough to get a 5711 already. Getting a 5712 hopefully soon. I'm feeling like I'm going to keep both watches and continue my Patek obsession.... also have a 5164 now. My goodness this sickness is BAD!!!

17 January 2018, 07:59 PM	#89
charcoal6666 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Cambridge Posts: 59	Universal Dilemma..... This is like asking if you wanna chop off your right hand or left hand, you only get to keep one....

19 January 2018, 11:40 AM	#90
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	I prefer the 11 __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

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