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adiorandomhero93 · 4 January 2016, 11:00 AM

Just purchased this 1601 and got a pretty good deal on it. Once I received it I found a couple things that concerned me. First are the endlinks, definitely not what the oval jubilee originally came with. Are these endlinks Tudor?

Another thing that I noticed is that the serial and reference number look to be re-engraved on the case. The stamping on the caseback also looks re-engraved as well. I doubt it could have been double stamped?

The second hand is also bent at the end. Surprisingly the oval link jubilee isn't in terrible shape, I have had other ones that were much more stretched then this one. And the clasp and buckle doesn't look too bad either.

The date wheel appears to be correct for this period, fat font with hooked 7's and closed 6, 9, 16, 19, 26, and 29.

Anything else I am missing? I always appreciate the help of trf.

Thanks
Shane

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UNLVino · 4 January 2016, 11:13 AM

Curious- what drew you to that watch?

adiorandomhero93 · 4 January 2016, 11:21 AM

The price and bracelet condition. I have another 1601 I can use the bracelet on and if the extra dial was authentic I was going to get them swapped when serviced. Pretty much an impulse buy, just trying to justify buying another watch lol

jmv831 · 4 January 2016, 11:54 AM

Can you post a Pic of the movement?

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adiorandomhero93 · 4 January 2016, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jmv831

Can you post a Pic of the movement?

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Sorry about that, I just added them to the album.

UNLVino · 4 January 2016, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by adiorandomhero93

The price and bracelet condition. I have another 1601 I can use the bracelet on and if the extra dial was authentic I was going to get them swapped when serviced. Pretty much an impulse buy, just trying to justify buying another watch lol

Been there - i do all my best research after purchase

springer · 4 January 2016, 03:34 PM

Are you sure that date wheel is genuine Rolex?

crowncollection · 4 January 2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by adiorandomhero93

Sorry about that, I just added them to the album.

The New extra pics show a few problems, USA bands have unmarked end pieces IMHO, you have the steel band clasp, spare dial is resprayed as per my statement in the watchout post

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Solicitor · 4 January 2016, 06:52 PM

I might be mistaken, but aren't 1601s supposed to be an all steel Datejust with white gold bezel? (1603 being the 2 tone?)

crowncollection · 4 January 2016, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Solicitor

I might be mistaken, but aren't 1601s supposed to be an all steel Datejust with white gold bezel? (1603 being the 2 tone?)

No they come in steel and two tone and solid gold. The last digit refers to the bezel type

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Solicitor · 4 January 2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

No they come in steel and two tone and solid gold. The last digit refers to the bezel type

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Thanks

TimeToGo · 4 January 2016, 08:51 PM

Looks good to me! Congrats on the purchase..

adiorandomhero93 · 4 January 2016, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

The New extra pics show a few problems, USA bands have unmarked end pieces IMHO, you have the steel band clasp, spare dial is resprayed as per my statement in the watchout post

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Thanks David. Are you sure the clasp is not correct? It says 14k trim on it and it is an exact match to another clasp that came with a two tone USA oval I have. I knew the endlinks were not correct, possibly tudor? Do you see any problems with the case, caseback, or the movement? Case and caseback look re-engraved to me. Thanks again David.

crowncollection · 5 January 2016, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by adiorandomhero93

Thanks David. Are you sure the clasp is not correct? It says 14k trim on it and it is an exact match to another clasp that came with a two tone USA oval I have. I knew the endlinks were not correct, possibly tudor? Do you see any problems with the case, caseback, or the movement? Case and caseback look re-engraved to me. Thanks again David.

If is states 14k trim its fine I must have missed that , looking on an iPhone only sorry it's fine.

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adiorandomhero93 · 5 January 2016, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

If is states 14k trim its fine I must have missed that , looking on an iPhone only sorry it's fine.

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Thanks David always appreciate your help

Pchohan88 · 12 January 2016, 03:19 AM

Hi I've just purchased a similar watch my 6 and 9 markers are doubled up?

Is this original or an aftermarket face ?

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4 January 2016, 11:00 AM	#1
adiorandomhero93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Harrisburg pa Posts: 387	Just purchased this 1601 with box, have a couple concerns.... Just purchased this 1601 and got a pretty good deal on it. Once I received it I found a couple things that concerned me. First are the endlinks, definitely not what the oval jubilee originally came with. Are these endlinks Tudor? Another thing that I noticed is that the serial and reference number look to be re-engraved on the case. The stamping on the caseback also looks re-engraved as well. I doubt it could have been double stamped? The second hand is also bent at the end. Surprisingly the oval link jubilee isn't in terrible shape, I have had other ones that were much more stretched then this one. And the clasp and buckle doesn't look too bad either. The date wheel appears to be correct for this period, fat font with hooked 7's and closed 6, 9, 16, 19, 26, and 29. Anything else I am missing? I always appreciate the help of trf. Thanks Shane http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/ad...x%20New%201601

4 January 2016, 03:34 PM	#7
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,197	Are you sure that date wheel is genuine Rolex? __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

4 January 2016, 11:13 AM	#2
UNLVino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Tim Location: Left Coast USA Watch: 15203 & 18038 Posts: 384	Curious- what drew you to that watch?

4 January 2016, 11:21 AM	#3
adiorandomhero93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Harrisburg pa Posts: 387	The price and bracelet condition. I have another 1601 I can use the bracelet on and if the extra dial was authentic I was going to get them swapped when serviced. Pretty much an impulse buy, just trying to justify buying another watch lol

4 January 2016, 11:54 AM	#4
jmv831 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Joel Location: Monterey CA Posts: 42	Can you post a Pic of the movement? Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

4 January 2016, 06:52 PM	#9
Solicitor "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 317	I might be mistaken, but aren't 1601s supposed to be an all steel Datejust with white gold bezel? (1603 being the 2 tone?)

4 January 2016, 08:51 PM	#12
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,593	Looks good to me! Congrats on the purchase..

12 January 2016, 03:19 AM	#16
Pchohan88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: England Posts: 18	Hi I've just purchased a similar watch my 6 and 9 markers are doubled up? Is this original or an aftermarket face ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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