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Zhanger · 18 January 2016, 01:55 AM

I was shopping for a 16618 and some of these shops offered a lower price than what is found here, or said they could check with their dealer. But I just get an overall sleazy feeling from these shops. Is authenticity a concern with them, even with papers? And I'm curious who their Rolex dealers are, is it possible some are AD's that want to unload old or pre-owned stock?

s14roller · 18 January 2016, 02:50 AM

Nope

climbwithahelmet · 18 January 2016, 02:54 AM

No

Tools · 18 January 2016, 02:55 AM

It's impossible to answer your questions.

Deal with a reputable business and you shouldn't have any issues. Paperwork does not "authenticate" anything.

anothernewphone · 18 January 2016, 02:56 AM

If you can fake a passable watch, you can fake "paperwork."

FTX I · 18 January 2016, 02:59 AM

Love that place. You can find good deals there if you have some experience, but you must do your homework first.

beshannon · 18 January 2016, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhanger

I was shopping for a 16618 and some of these shops offered a lower price than what is found here, or said they could check with their dealer. But I just get an overall sleazy feeling from these shops.

Then why shop there? Only buying a "deal"?

Buy the seller.

GoingPlaces · 18 January 2016, 03:15 AM

As they say, buy the seller first. Truer words can't be said.

Daytona88 · 18 January 2016, 03:23 AM

Buy the seller or at least trust them without hesitation

subtona · 18 January 2016, 03:25 AM

Trust your "feeling."

You will find shark infested waters that I would not try to navigate without having a highly referenced and recommended 1st hand resource.

Toony · 18 January 2016, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Trust your "feeling."

You will find shark infested waters that I would not try to navigate without having a highly referenced and recommended 1st hand resource.

I second this. I'm sure there are good/reputable dealers there but if you don't know who they are you might be sold something that's not up to snuff. I'm in NYC all the time and trust a few of the trusted sellers here so much more.

jefe1999 · 18 January 2016, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FTX I

Love that place. You can find good deals there if you have some experience, but you must do your homework first.

I was just in NYC last week, and spent a few hours in the Diamond District on 47th St. Had a blast. I have made a couple of purchases there in the past with satisfaction, and saved a bunch of money. On Thursday, I bought a difficult-to-find Day Date dial from none other than John Buckley; guess that makes it a Buckley dial!

HL65 · 18 January 2016, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Trust your "feeling."

You will find shark infested waters that I would not try to navigate without having a highly referenced and recommended 1st hand resource.

travisb · 18 January 2016, 04:16 AM

I wouldn't. It's nice to look though.

DCheeta · 18 January 2016, 04:29 AM

You can see just about every model there, but the pervading sense of sleaziness keeps me from interacting with anyone there.

ltmgeller · 18 January 2016, 04:41 AM

I've dealt with John Bukley @ Tuscany Rose many times. He taught me a lot about watches when I was just starting out as a WIS. http://tuscanyrose.com/contactus.html. He's very nice and been around a long time. He's a forum member but hasn't been active in quite some time. He deals with vintage Rolex mostly but can put you in touch with reputable people in the district. There are a lot of sharks down there so it's nice finding someone you can trust.

Seaswirl · 18 January 2016, 04:44 AM

I think the DD is a blast. Combat shopping at its finest. I've never heard of fakes being sold there, but Franken watches are not uncommon- particularly on older models. My biggest gripe is that everything seems over polished.

ltmgeller · 18 January 2016, 04:51 AM

Here's a link to a thread about him. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8858

Cowboyish1 · 5 January 2020, 08:47 AM

Has anyone done business with Sky Diamonds in 47th St in New York? They currently have a Rolex that I want, but I don't know much about them. Thanks.

Cowboyish1 · 5 January 2020, 08:48 AM

Has anyone done business with Sky Diamonds on 47th St in New York? They currently have a Rolex that I want, but I don't know much about them. Thanks.

fsprow · 5 January 2020, 09:27 AM

I suggest Gabriel Allen, Watches Off Fifth, honest and a great fellow.

Brny11 · 5 January 2020, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhanger

I was shopping for a 16618 and some of these shops offered a lower price than what is found here, or said they could check with their dealer. But I just get an overall sleazy feeling from these shops. Is authenticity a concern with them, even with papers? And I'm curious who their Rolex dealers are, is it possible some are AD's that want to unload old or pre-owned stock?

Think of diamond district like TRF marketplace. Some sellers are reputable and others are not. My guess is the reputable dealers will have normal pricing. Being able to haggle face to face might have some benefits but I would not buy a watch in a deal that is too good to be true.

BigBoy17 · 5 January 2020, 10:19 AM

Too many storys of mix and match real/fake franken watches. I say no

BillA · 5 January 2020, 10:56 AM

Motion in Time has a big selection.
I dont know whether to buy from them or not, but they have a huge inventory

cerendigit · 5 January 2020, 11:05 AM

No. Don't be tempted by those "good deals", be patient, and get it from a reputable dealer.

ArtNouveau · 5 January 2020, 11:33 AM

I wouldn’t have any doubts about authenticity but I wouldn’t expect any bargains either. I second Motion in Time, it’s one of the few watch only places and it recently did a remodel/enlargement so must be doing okay. Boris is the owner/principle.

Patton250 · 5 January 2020, 11:43 AM

Absolutely not. I had a horrible experience there. I almost lost 20k.

cerendigit · 5 January 2020, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Patton250

Absolutely not. I had a horrible experience there. I almost lost 20k.

Interesting. Was that online or in-store?

Patton250 · 5 January 2020, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cerendigit

Interesting. Was that online or in-store?

Both. I had met them and then went home to Florida and called them 3 months later. It’s a long story but my CC company saved the day.

18 January 2016, 01:55 AM	#1
Zhanger "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 14060M Submariner Posts: 104	Anyone recommend buying Rolex in Diamond District, New York? I was shopping for a 16618 and some of these shops offered a lower price than what is found here, or said they could check with their dealer. But I just get an overall sleazy feeling from these shops. Is authenticity a concern with them, even with papers? And I'm curious who their Rolex dealers are, is it possible some are AD's that want to unload old or pre-owned stock?

18 January 2016, 02:55 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,040	It's impossible to answer your questions. Deal with a reputable business and you shouldn't have any issues. Paperwork does not "authenticate" anything. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

18 January 2016, 03:25 AM	#10
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,988	Trust your "feeling." You will find shark infested waters that I would not try to navigate without having a highly referenced and recommended 1st hand resource. __________________

5 January 2020, 11:43 AM	#27
Patton250 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Brett Location: Florida Watch: 5205R Posts: 5,158	Absolutely not. I had a horrible experience there. I almost lost 20k. __________________ Morality does not derive from consensus. It only comes from one place. Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall. Often times unbelief is disguised as wisdom Instagram - patton250

18 January 2016, 02:50 AM	#2
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,245	Nope

18 January 2016, 02:54 AM	#3
climbwithahelmet "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: new york Posts: 76	No

18 January 2016, 02:56 AM	#5
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	If you can fake a passable watch, you can fake "paperwork."

18 January 2016, 02:59 AM	#6
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,652	Love that place. You can find good deals there if you have some experience, but you must do your homework first.

18 January 2016, 03:15 AM	#8
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,341	As they say, buy the seller first. Truer words can't be said.

18 January 2016, 03:23 AM	#9
Daytona88 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5712 Posts: 2,595	Buy the seller or at least trust them without hesitation

18 January 2016, 04:16 AM	#14
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,192	I wouldn't. It's nice to look though.

18 January 2016, 04:29 AM	#15
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,180	You can see just about every model there, but the pervading sense of sleaziness keeps me from interacting with anyone there.

18 January 2016, 04:41 AM	#16
ltmgeller 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 21,355	I've dealt with John Bukley @ Tuscany Rose many times. He taught me a lot about watches when I was just starting out as a WIS. http://tuscanyrose.com/contactus.html. He's very nice and been around a long time. He's a forum member but hasn't been active in quite some time. He deals with vintage Rolex mostly but can put you in touch with reputable people in the district. There are a lot of sharks down there so it's nice finding someone you can trust.

18 January 2016, 04:44 AM	#17
Seaswirl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 1,761	I think the DD is a blast. Combat shopping at its finest. I've never heard of fakes being sold there, but Franken watches are not uncommon- particularly on older models. My biggest gripe is that everything seems over polished.

18 January 2016, 04:51 AM	#18
ltmgeller 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 21,355	Here's a link to a thread about him. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8858

5 January 2020, 08:47 AM	#19
Cowboyish1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: California Posts: 7	Has anyone done business with Sky Diamonds in 47th St in New York? They currently have a Rolex that I want, but I don't know much about them. Thanks.

5 January 2020, 08:48 AM	#20
Cowboyish1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: California Posts: 7	Has anyone done business with Sky Diamonds on 47th St in New York? They currently have a Rolex that I want, but I don't know much about them. Thanks.

5 January 2020, 09:27 AM	#21
fsprow "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Frank Location: Dallas,NY,Colo. Watch: Patek 5168, 5170P Posts: 2,398	I suggest Gabriel Allen, Watches Off Fifth, honest and a great fellow.

5 January 2020, 10:19 AM	#23
BigBoy17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Nik Location: NYC Posts: 1,166	Too many storys of mix and match real/fake franken watches. I say no

5 January 2020, 10:56 AM	#24
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,608	Motion in Time has a big selection. I dont know whether to buy from them or not, but they have a huge inventory

5 January 2020, 11:05 AM	#25
cerendigit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Seattle Watch: Casio digital Posts: 1,076	No. Don't be tempted by those "good deals", be patient, and get it from a reputable dealer.

5 January 2020, 11:33 AM	#26
ArtNouveau 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NWA, USA Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s Posts: 4,950	I wouldn’t have any doubts about authenticity but I wouldn’t expect any bargains either. I second Motion in Time, it’s one of the few watch only places and it recently did a remodel/enlargement so must be doing okay. Boris is the owner/principle.

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