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Old 28 June 2017, 01:47 PM   #31
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Thanks Adam, I positioned my watch crown down last night and today it is 1-2 seconds slower than yesterday going by time.is as a reference.

The issue is however, I want my watch to gain time if anything instead of losing time...so tonight I'll try the dial up position as you suggest and see if there is any change.

I agree with what you say that modern Rolex do not vary as much as say the 16XX series movements as a result of overnight positioning.
Interestingly enough, I've been using this method of "regulation" for as long as I've been on the forum and while slowing down my watches seems to work beautifully from my DD40 and DBlue to my 16710 and 16610, trying to speed up a watch has almost rarely shown sigficant difference.
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Old 28 June 2017, 01:58 PM   #32
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Why would some watches in a given resting position gain time, while other watches (with the same movement) lose time in that same position????
An interesting question Stav.

I check all my watches on my TimeGrapher1000 and note the positions that give me the highest and lowest gain so I can apply that as a correction.

I have found that there is some inconsistency with the variance in positions when compared to the Rolex chart.

I did find that watches I tested (old and new) had more positional variation as the beat error increased.

That could answer a part of your question.

I also think that the condition of the movement has an effect.

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Old 28 June 2017, 02:05 PM   #33
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How to rest overnight on the crown?

My brand new Rolex Sub 114060 responds exactly as that older Rolex paperwork says it should. I can generally keep this piece bang on time by gauging how much I am over ( it runs about a bout a second fast every day give or take) and choosing which side to lay it on overnight to correct it. Works very nicely for me.


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Old 28 June 2017, 03:16 PM   #34
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Many here say this no longer works with the modern movements. True or False. That little paper is a relic of the past.
Resting position noticeably affects my DD40 with the 3255 movement. Face up at night = between one or two seconds lost over a week. Crown up = between 4-5 seconds lost over a week.

Haven't tried it crown down as I'd rather not lay it down that way (I know it won't hurt anything...)

The other interesting thing I noticed is that 40 complete (visually) winds from dead gets almost 72 of run time untouched with the dial up. Same with the crown up gets ~2 hours less.
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Old 30 June 2017, 06:00 PM   #35
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Interestingly enough, I've been using this method of "regulation" for as long as I've been on the forum and while slowing down my watches seems to work beautifully from my DD40 and DBlue to my 16710 and 16610, trying to speed up a watch has almost rarely shown sigficant difference.
OK well that may be the answer because no matter what position I put my SubC overnight it seems to lose between 2-3 seconds.......


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An interesting question Stav.

I check all my watches on my TimeGrapher1000 and note the positions that give me the highest and lowest gain so I can apply that as a correction.

I have found that there is some inconsistency with the variance in positions when compared to the Rolex chart.

I did find that watches I tested (old and new) had more positional variation as the beat error increased.

That could answer a part of your question.

I also think that the condition of the movement has an effect.

What do you mean by 'condition of the movement'? My watch is less than 12 months old, so are you saying if it was older it would respond more to positional placement?

I think in my case the answer is to take the watch to Rolex and ask them to do a timing adjustment. In my experience Rolex will do that under warranty and ensure that the watch is running every so slightly fast, that way as Chadridv has said above it is more so possible to retard the timing by positional placement overnight.
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Why would some watches in a given resting position gain time, while other watches (with the same movement) lose time in that same position????
Steve please do not get anal about a second or so there is enough OCD on forum now.But many things effect mechanical watches the movement is constantly affected by the earth's gravity, metal expansion and contraction, temperature variations, subtle changes in lubrication and friction,mainspring-power reserve, shocks, and so on.But different resting positions could effect a difference of one or two seconds out of 86400 in a day.
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