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Old 19 November 2022, 02:39 PM   #1
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Icon20 Fake or real 1970 datejust 1601

Hi Everyone new here . I got a guys selling me a datejust 1970 1601 .

But no papers and no box . I know first red flag . However wanna share some pictures and see what you guys think . I ve been checking and re checking movement and all just to confirm it but would like a couple of opinions
Thanks

My main concerns are
the minute and hour hands
No luminous (but i think some dial models of this era were non luminous )
The crown looks a bit off to me
The registered design inscriptions seems a bit different from others
The obvious …no papers

Cheers and thanks for the input will be very helpful
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Old 19 November 2022, 04:34 PM   #2
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Better pictures needed
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Old 20 November 2022, 02:03 AM   #3
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Better pics yeah- but it looks legit- what's the weight? Show a closeup of the mechanism- especially the spring.
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Old 16 December 2022, 11:19 PM   #4
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Hard to tell without really good pics, but from what you've posted that looks very close to my 1968(ish) 1603.

I can't see someone going to the effort of faking the movement for a watch that's not that popular or valuable. At the worst I'd guess it's a franken.
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Old 17 December 2022, 05:32 AM   #6
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Just to add that the absence of papers on a watch that old is NOT a red flag. Very uncommon to have them still around.
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Old 17 December 2022, 06:20 AM   #7
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Also remember: Fakes of that era were pretty bad.
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Just to add that the absence of papers on a watch that old is NOT a red flag. Very uncommon to have them still around.
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