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Old 12 July 2019, 09:57 AM   #31
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Only makes sense if you actually want that YG GMT II and can get at least a little bit of a discount on it.
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Old 12 July 2019, 10:08 AM   #32
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Old 12 July 2019, 10:17 AM   #33
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If you really want the GMT YG then its a great deal. Like others have said....I would try and get a little discount on the GMT. I would personally ask for a WG or YG Daytona....have him give you the YG Daytona with green dial = bonus
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Old 12 July 2019, 10:19 AM   #34
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Spend $33k to be allowed to spend another $12k? Absolute lunacy.
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Old 12 July 2019, 10:23 AM   #35
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i would never let an ad tell me i have to spend 33k in order to spend another 12k on another watch.

These tactics are laughable.


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Old 12 July 2019, 10:38 AM   #36
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They wonít discount the GMT at all which is why Iím even hesitating on this. Iíve been trying to get a black dial for quite awhile now.
I would do this deal.

All gold GMT II looks great imo, and market value of those are not that far off of the sticker price tbh.
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Old 12 July 2019, 10:40 AM   #37
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Did he at least offer some lube? Don't buy what you don't want to get something you do. Silly.
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Old 12 July 2019, 10:46 AM   #38
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Tell them yes, but you need to ring it up in two transactions on a different card each time. Size and pay for the Daytona first. Then say youíve changed your mind on the other piece and just leave. Two can play at that game.

Or Iíll just buy the gmt off you for $10k
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Old 12 July 2019, 10:49 AM   #39
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I have been on the Daytona list for 2 years and today got the call asking if I wanted the next one that comes in. The catch is it involves a "leveraged" transaction. If I pass I will probably never see another one from this AD. Other ADs that I have been on "the list" have lost their AD status. Tough call
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Old 12 July 2019, 10:57 AM   #40
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Just left the AD. Went in to discuss the logistics and pricing to try to negotiate a discount on the GMT and was told they already sold the Daytona to someone else.

What a horrible experience
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Old 12 July 2019, 11:48 AM   #41
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But did that someone else have to buy the GMT?
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Old 12 July 2019, 11:50 AM   #42
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If you like both of them, go for it!
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Old 12 July 2019, 11:53 AM   #43
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Itís funny how everyone thinks bundling is such a bad word... VIPs are VIPs because theyíve bundled plenty of watches... bundled them over time.
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Old 12 July 2019, 12:01 PM   #44
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I never thought I'd say this but I think I'd rather pay the $22k for just the black Daytona from a grey than to pay almost $50k at an AD. But if you really want that GMT and was gona get one anyway, then go for it.
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Old 12 July 2019, 12:24 PM   #45
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Lol, what? Get a better AD.
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Old 12 July 2019, 01:58 PM   #46
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Just left the AD. Went in to discuss the logistics and pricing to try to negotiate a discount on the GMT and was told they already sold the Daytona to someone else.

What a horrible experience
I'm sorry, man. It was a bad deal anyway and they saved you the trouble of ever doing business with them again. Really, a terrible way to treat a potential $50k purchase.
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Old 12 July 2019, 02:05 PM   #47
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Lol, what? Get a better AD.

You have one to recommend the poor guys here who canít get a Daytona or GMT without bundling or relationship building?

Or you just enjoy sounding smug?


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Old 12 July 2019, 02:28 PM   #48
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If you may afford it then do not hesitate. You also have to be fond of 116718. I personally like it a lot plus it was discontinued recently. I would have gone into it immediately!
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Old 12 July 2019, 02:31 PM   #49
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Just left the AD. Went in to discuss the logistics and pricing to try to negotiate a discount on the GMT and was told they already sold the Daytona to someone else.

What a horrible experience
You shouldnít be worried. They will get another Daytona sooner than you expect. Now even you may try to get some discount on the GMT. Though do it in advance.
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Old 12 July 2019, 03:15 PM   #50
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Those offers really irritate me as they prove how stupid some ADs are!!!

Technically, if you agree and move forward with the deal then went the following morning to return the PM GMT, no one can tell you anything!!
Of course that would ruin any relationship with the AD and I personally wouldnít do it but they are really playing it dirty!!

Finally Iím starting to think that Rolex USA has a direct or indirect role in this by putting pressure on ADs to sell a certain number of PM watches and thatís the they they can unload them!!

I would only move forward with that deal if I want both watches!!


That would be the route i went lol. I donít really need the ADs but i wouldnít mind a Daytona. I had a conversation today with a friend about how gross Rolex is getting. Obviously this isnít Rolex doing but when itís an AD, the lines feel blurred. Itís used car sales.




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Old 12 July 2019, 03:30 PM   #51
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One ad asked me to bundle a black submariner with a $14k lady dj. They are getting more ridiculous these days.


That is beyond ridiculous. 14k for a lady DJ just to get a Sub? Forget it.


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Old 12 July 2019, 03:34 PM   #52
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Just left the AD. Went in to discuss the logistics and pricing to try to negotiate a discount on the GMT and was told they already sold the Daytona to someone else.

What a horrible experience


That AD is a POS in my opinion. Drop a ridiculous deal on you and when you walk in to entertain it they F you with ďitís soldĒ I better not see a F$&#% YG GMT on display anywhere or ill would have caused a scene.


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Old 12 July 2019, 03:35 PM   #53
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The gods have spoken. Wasnít meant to be for you and sounds like the transaction was not going to be in your favor at all. Honestly, spend the extra $9k and get it grey. Think about it this way, with taxes it would be like $13.5k at the AD anyway. You wouldíve taken a $10k hit on a gold watch like that or a lady DJ anyway and would have to kiss up to those scumbags. With some of these greys, theyíre no BS. Get it and never look back. If youíre buying to keep and not to flip whatís the diff what it costs? Eventually itíll be worth more anyway.


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Old 12 July 2019, 03:47 PM   #54
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My AD is offering me a Black Dial Daytona, but I have to purchase a yellow gold GMT Master II 116718LN at MSRP $33,000 as well. Do you think this is a good bundle deal?

Definitely not , would you go into your local car dealer and buy two cars when you only wanted one
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Old 12 July 2019, 04:10 PM   #55
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It just goes to show PM Rolexs are difficult to sell.
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Old 12 July 2019, 04:18 PM   #56
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My AD is offering me a Black Dial Daytona, but I have to purchase a yellow gold GMT Master II 116718LN at MSRP $33,000 as well. Do you think this is a good bundle deal?
Yes. Good deal. Youre buying a discontinued watch whilst getting a rare watch.

No brainer. Send that over if you're not getting it
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Old 12 July 2019, 04:51 PM   #57
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You are not a valued customer if this is how they want to deal. Walk.
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Old 12 July 2019, 05:18 PM   #58
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This is what Ferrari has been doing for as long as I can remember, and it makes great sense for a business to operate in this way with regard high demand products.

Seems like a reasonable deal to me. Buy both watches and the immediate financial hit you take on the GMT is offset by the immediate gain you get on the Daytona.

If you donít want the GMT and you flip it immediately, then you are affectively buying the Daytona at a grey price, but from an AD with your name on the card, and youíre starting a relationship for the future.

Iíd consider it, but if make it very clear that I want to be considered a good and valued customer when it comes to jewellery purchases for my wife (my AD gives me good discounts on jewellery) and on future watch purchases (on the list for high demand, and good discounts on easy to get stock)

I find it curious that people believe that customers can pick and choose who they buy from to get the best deal for themselves, but ADís shouldnít pick and choose who they sell to in order to get the best deal for themselves.


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Old 12 July 2019, 05:21 PM   #59
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Can you explain the Ferrari similarity?

I thought they had a prequalifying requirement then resale rules?
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This is what Ferrari has been doing for as long as I can remember, and it makes great sense for a business to operate in this way with regard high demand products.

Seems like a reasonable deal to me. Buy both watches and the immediate financial hit you take on the GMT is offset by the immediate gain you get on the Daytona.

If you donít want the GMT and you flip it immediately, then you are affectively buying the Daytona at a grey price, but from an AD with your name on the card, and youíre starting a relationship for the future.

Iíd consider it, but if make it very clear that I want to be considered a good and valued customer when it comes to jewellery purchases for my wife (my AD gives me good discounts on jewellery) and on future watch purchases (on the list for high demand, and good discounts on easy to get stock)

I find it curious that people believe that customers can pick and choose who they buy from to get the best deal for themselves, but ADís shouldnít pick and choose who they sell to in order to get the best deal for themselves.


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Where have you been hiding with these sensible replies?!

Seems fine to me ; nobody is forcing anybody to be a Rolex customer
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