Selling hulk to fund AP ceramic diver

[chad362wiley]

Hey all,

So, after getting my RG offshore it’s taken up all of my wrist time. I had to sell off 3 watches to get it, leaving me with 3 (hulk, skyd blue and the RG44). I haven’t worn my skyd except one day at work, and only wore my hulk as I didn’t want to scratch up the RG on a 4th of July quick vacation.

It got me thinking. What if I sold my green sub to fund the ceramic diver? I could wear the diver without worrying about scratches, and the hulk is trading at a massive premium now.

I do fear redundancy with two offshores, but I mean, I just love the pieces.

Have also consider adding back a royal oak on a bracelet. 15400, miss my white dial.

Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks all. I am not interested in really ever selling my skyd, it’s my favorite Rolex, so that’s kinda out of the question.

[LAFLARE]

I can get behind selling a hulk for funding another AP. I also think keeping the blue sky is a great move as the blue dial is by far the best dial out of the SS sky's.

Personally I think a 15400 adds more variety to your collection than a CE diver but they are pretty different in terms of casual versus formal styling, however it can be argued that their roles would be fine reversed as well. Both awesome pieces and I don't think you would go wrong either way flipping the hulk for an AP.

[PJ S]

Surely you can come to a decision yourself, based on what you’ve written above there?
Where’s the redundancy? You’ve two Rolex, at present, with intentions on changing one dive watch to another, never mind the fact the other is a metal cased chronograph, with not even a hint of orange.
You’ve already had a 15400, sold it (for whatever reason), so why would you buy the same watch again instead of experiencing something different, like a GP Laureato or Bvlgari Octo – to stick to the integrated bracelet theme?

[bayerische]

Less is more IMHO.

[HK Islandboy]

I like my Hulk...LOVE my CE Diver. I’m happy to have both, but if in had to choose, I’d go for the AP every time.

I don’t find any redundancy among the 44 (I’ve got the CE) and the Diver - the diver is great for weekend wear, whereas the 44 gets most of its wrist time in the office

[aproo]

I would sell the Hulk and get the AP. No regrets.

[Trailboss516]

I sold my Hulk to help pay for my 44mm Ceramic ROO. No regrets at all.

[AK797]

I love my LVC but sounds like you're really in the tank for an AP so go for it, CED is very cool.

[bruinmd]

Man, Idk. I'm a huge Hulk fan, but I'm also a recent convert to AP, awaiting my 15400 with more anticipation than any watch I've ever had.

If you love the offshore that much, go for it. This is definitely the best time to sell the LVC for sure. For me, however, I know I would miss it too much. I love the way the Hulk pops in the sunlight and under other lighting.
I love your RG offshore, and if I had the wrist size to pull it off, would be all over that watch myself.

[V25V]

I wouldn't sell my Hulk for it but if you need to move something to justify the purchase, go for it. I have 3 offshores, to chrono's and a FC Diver. I am looking to sell one of the ROO's but definitely plan on keeping the other along with the diver, they are surely different enough, especially if you do with the ceramic.

I say go for it, can always get a Hulk again later if you lust for the diver changes, relatively easy to move and can pocket the difference.

[chad362wiley]

Thanks for the input. I’m gonna wear the hulk more over the course of the next few weeks and then see if I’m still feeling like parting with it.

[GB-man]

Both great watches. I’d argue the LVc is more versatile but the diver c is more unique and badass. You probably won’t get hurt either way if you want to reverse it.

[redsubby]

Keep the Hulk if you can, I really miss it.
By the way, the ceramic does get scratches.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by chad362wiley

Thanks for the input. I’m gonna wear the hulk more over the course of the next few weeks and then see if I’m still feeling like parting with it.

Alternatively, put the Rolex well away (out of sight, out of mind) for a few weeks, then see if you feel any pull to bring it out of hiding.
Chances are that you’ll forget about it, which would be indicative of how you’d feel long term, with the FC to choose from too.

Originally Posted by redsubby

By the way, the ceramic does get scratches.

No it doesn’t.
Well... only if you sit with carborundum (sapphire), tungsten carbide, or diamond, and rub them over the surface — otherwise, you’re mistaking material transfer for scratches.

[2nastie]

All are quality watches... but always quality over quantity.

I would reduce the collection and get the ceramic diver. It's pretty unique amongst the ROO line.

I like the idea of the 15400 too ;)

[chad362wiley]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Alternatively, put the Rolex well away (out of sight, out of mind) for a few weeks, then see if you feel any pull to bring it out of hiding.
Chances are that you’ll forget about it, which would be indicative of how you’d feel long term, with the FC to choose from too.



No it doesn’t.
Well... only if you sit with carborundum (sapphire), tungsten carbide, or diamond, and rub them over the surface — otherwise, you’re mistaking material transfer for scratches.

Great point. Thats why i considered selling it in the first place, i only reached for the offshore or the skyd. it was rather out of mind.

[tubojunk]

I’ve had my diver for almost one month now. Taken it off 3x in that period when I had to wear suits. Other than that it stays on, I feel it is very versatile and even more so than the LVc.

If you are not feeling the LVc I would go for the CE diver if you can find a good example as they are becoming harder to source. You will always be able to find the LVc again the diver not so much.

[arosado]

Keep the green sub and save for the 15400. No rush, no regrets.

[Eiso]

Do it. I have the 44RG and Ceramic Diver too. Would do it in a heartbeat, sell the hulk and teh sky dweller blue and get the ceramic diver. Done.

[redsubby]

Originally Posted by PJ S

No it doesn’t.
Well... only if you sit with carborundum (sapphire), tungsten carbide, or diamond, and rub them over the surface — otherwise, you’re mistaking material transfer for scratches.

Here you go. The scratch at 12 o'clock was done by a steel Seiko watch, wasn't even a hard impact. The one at 7 o'clock no idea where it came from. The watch has never hit anything hard or near any diamond like material.

[Jp28]

I have been thinking of going to a RG44 + ceramic 44 also, and having the same thought on overlap too. I did have two 42ROO for a while and it did not work out too bad.
Another option could be RG+ Ti. Ti is also light and has a bit more contrast between case and bezel also.

[chad362wiley]

Originally Posted by Jp28

I have been thinking of going to a RG44 + ceramic 44 also, and having the same thought on overlap too. I did have two 42ROO for a while and it did not work out too bad.
Another option could be RG+ Ti. Ti is also light and has a bit more contrast between case and bezel also.

Yea, I tried on the TI but just couldnt bond with the gray dial.

[bluebeamer]

i'd keep the hulk, but that's just me :P

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by redsubby

Here you go. The scratch at 12 o'clock was done by a steel Seiko watch, wasn't even a hard impact. The one at 7 o'clock no idea where it came from. The watch has never hit anything hard or near any diamond like material.

Presumably you’re unknowlegable regarding each material’s relative hardness?
Using the Mohs scale (which isn’t linear!), ceramic (zirconium oxide) is at 8, steel (tempered and annealed for watch cases) is around 5.
As such, it’s impossible for a softer material to scratch a harder one, since a scratch, by definition, is the result of permanent material removal.

Get yourself some Brasso and a cotton rag — rub the “scratches” with the brushed grain. Wash with a mild detergent when they’re gone, and dry.
All shiny and new again — job’s a good un!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=457445

[Jp28]

Originally Posted by chad362wiley

Yea, I tried on the TI but just couldnt bond with the gray dial.

Good to know. Thanks. Just going to have to try them all on and see !!

[chad362wiley]

Originally Posted by Jp28

Good to know. Thanks. Just going to have to try them all on and see !!

The rose gold is the the most stunning 44 in my opinion, tried it on at the boutique and immediately moved 3 of my pieces to get it.

if i didnt get the rg 44, i wouldve gotten a ceramic 44. considering the diver ceramic as i cant swing 2 44's $ wise.

[lt114]

I'd go with the 15400. It's more versatile. You really can't go wrong with the ceramic diver though, especially if you don't have to wear a suit everyday. If you do, stick with the hulk or get the 15400.

[solrac6262]

I don't like the green lol, do it, one daily driver and the other for the weekend

[Urooj]

I would recommend getting a ceramic 44 it’s an incredible piece...and you will have a brilliant pair....

[Tomas Eriksson]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Presumably you’re unknowlegable regarding each material’s relative hardness?
Using the Mohs scale (which isn’t linear!), ceramic (zirconium oxide) is at 8, steel (tempered and annealed for watch cases) is around 5.
As such, it’s impossible for a softer material to scratch a harder one, since a scratch, by definition, is the result of permanent material removal.

Get yourself some Brasso and a cotton rag — rub the “scratches” with the brushed grain. Wash with a mild detergent when they’re gone, and dry.
All shiny and new again — job’s a good un!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=457445

I would like to confirm that it is definitely possible to scratch/damage the brushed parts of the bezel. You can call them non-elastic dislocation of material if you want but to the naked eye they are scratches/marks. Then due to the case shape it is quite easy to get chipping in the ceramic from softer material.