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Old 23 February 2016, 11:41 AM   #1
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New 114060 not keeping good time

Hi folks,
Thanks for all your help so far. My watch is picking up more than a couple of seconds per day, been keeping track below. What should I do?

I bought it BNIB from a trusted seller a couple of weeks ago so I guess I'm a grey market buyer. The warranty card has a stamp but the Purchaser field has lines through it.

Should I squeeze my name above it as the seller told me to do?

Should I send it in to the Dallas service center as suggested?

Thanks for your help, appreciate it and love my watch.

Time
2 seconds behind 7am 2/17
10 seconds ahead 6:05am 2/18
10 seconds ahead 7:30am 2/19
12 seconds ahead 7:20am 2/21
Wound watch 10:50pm 2/21
17 seconds ahead 7:30am 2/22
22 seconds ahead 7:30pm 2/22



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Old 23 February 2016, 11:49 AM   #2
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Are you wearing it everyday?
How often do you wear it?
When winding...40 FULL turns clockwise?
What are you timing the watch to?
Try www.time.gov it is official NIST US time, also compensated for network delay.
Give the watch a full month to monitor results, THEN if you are under/over -4+6 then consider calibration.
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Old 23 February 2016, 11:54 AM   #3
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Are you wearing it everyday?

How often do you wear it?

When winding...40 FULL turns clockwise?

What are you timing the watch to?

Try www.time.gov it is official NIST US time, also compensated for network delay.

Give the watch a full month to monitor results, THEN if you are under/over -4+6 then consider calibration.

Yes, I'm wearing it every day. I did a full 40 turns yesterday and yes going against the time.gov.
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:01 PM   #4
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Yes, I'm wearing it every day. I did a full 40 turns yesterday and yes going against the time.gov.
To be honest, not sure RSC will accept that warranty card. By Rolex requirements, it is not properly filled out. The date format is wrong, lines through the name spot. I don't think this will fly as far as warranty service.
If it needs regulation, I have a reputable source that will regulate it for a small fee.
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:10 PM   #5
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To be honest, not sure RSC will accept that warranty card. By Rolex requirements, it is not properly filled out. The date format is wrong, lines through the name spot. I don't think this will fly as far as warranty service.

If it needs regulation, I have a reputable source that will regulate it for a small fee.

I feel like I just want to sell it and buy one from am AD with a warranty. Ugh.
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:25 PM   #6
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I feel like I just want to sell it and buy one from am AD with a warranty. Ugh.
So how much time is it gaining per day on average? More than 6 seconds?
don't get discouraged and sell the watch. Even if you have to pay for a regulation, it is not an expensive fee.
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:28 PM   #7
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At the end of 6 days is the watch 22 seconds faster than when you first set it or did it gain almost a minute in 6 days?

I'm no expert, but I wouldn't write anything on that card. Leave it as is.
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:28 PM   #8
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I think the warranty should be ok. I've had RSC warranty work done on watches with cards that had no name on, and the dates are often filled out in different formats.
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:49 PM   #9
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So how much time is it gaining per day on average? More than 6 seconds?

don't get discouraged and sell the watch. Even if you have to pay for a regulation, it is not an expensive fee.

It's averaging 4 seconds per day

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At the end of 6 days is the watch 22 seconds faster than when you first set it or did it gain almost a minute in 6 days?

It gained 24 seconds in 6 days = 4 sec/day

I'm no expert, but I wouldn't write anything on that card. Leave it as is.

I won't do anything with it right now thanks
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:52 PM   #10
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I think the warranty should be ok. I've had RSC warranty work done on watches with cards that had no name on, and the dates are often filled out in different formats.

You have no idea how good it is to hear that. After following a couple of warranty strings I haven't felt too good. But hearing this from you makes me feel a lot better thanks. Sleep well...or have a good morning ex-pat : )
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:57 PM   #11
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I am surprised that you are an experienced member and you should know that 4 sec per day is absolutely acceptable. I have a sub and a DSSD which both gain 6 secs a day.
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:58 PM   #12
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If the watch is +4 per day it is within Cosc specs. It is fine. Just wear and enjoy!
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Old 23 February 2016, 12:58 PM   #13
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Try storing it face down for a while while running at night. It should lose a few seconds
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+4 seconds per day is well within COSC standards (-4/+6 sec per day).
Why regulate something that works properly? I would just relax and enjoy that beauty to the most!
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Old 23 February 2016, 01:00 PM   #15
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Try storing it face down for a while while running at night. It should lose a few seconds

I'll try that and see how it goes thanks
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I'll try that and see how it goes thanks
Try laying it sideways, winding crown up or down, overnight (rather than face down). This is a method of self-regulation that works quite well on older Rolex movements, but you might not experience a significant difference with your Sub.
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Old 23 February 2016, 01:05 PM   #17
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+4 seconds per day is well within COSC standards (-4/+6 sec per day).

Why regulate something that works properly? I would just relax and enjoy that beauty to the most!

I read on another thread that the new COSC standards are -2/+2, and here is the article it referred to. I wasn't concerned at first because I originally thought -4/+4 was okay, but since I read about Rolex revising that I was expecting it to be tighter.
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/rolex-ex...n-house-tests/
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Old 23 February 2016, 01:07 PM   #18
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Try laying it sideways, winding crown up or down, overnight (rather than face down). This is a method of self-regulation that works quite well on older Rolex movements, but you might not experience a significant difference with your Sub.

Will do that tonight thanks.
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Find a Rolex-certified watchmaker to regulate the watch. It's not uncommon for new watches to need a regulation after awhile and it can be done under warranty.

I've done this with all my Rolex watches.

I had my Explorer serviced by a local Rolex watchmaker in September and now it's running a bit out of COSC.

It has a warranty from the service, so I'll just take it in and have it regulated by the same guy who serviced it.
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I purchased over a dozen brand new Rolex time pieces last year. I have noticed with new watches that it takes a while for them to settle in and become consistant. My sub C date, for example, took almost 4 months. At first it was all over the place...usually fast 10 - 15 sec per 24 hour period. Now, it is averaging 1 or 2 seconds per day fast. Sometimes its spot on to the atomic clock. Depends how I leave it at night. It was the same for the DJ II, DSSD, SD4k, Exp I...etc.

I would wear and enjoy it, in a few months, you might notice its keeping very good time.

Just my 2 cents... Cheers!
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I purchased over a dozen brand new Rolex time pieces last year. I have noticed with new watches that it takes a while for them to settle in and become consistant. My sub C date, for example, took almost 4 months. At first it was all over the place...usually fast 10 - 15 sec per 24 hour period. Now, it is averaging 1 or 2 seconds per day fast. Sometimes its spot on to the atomic clock. Depends how I leave it at night. It was the same for the DJ II, DSSD, SD4k, Exp I...etc.

I would wear and enjoy it, in a few months, you might notice its keeping very good time.

Just my 2 cents... Cheers!

Thanks for the info, I'll let it settle in
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I read on another thread that the new COSC standards are -2/+2, and here is the article it referred to. I wasn't concerned at first because I originally thought -4/+4 was okay, but since I read about Rolex revising that I was expecting it to be tighter.
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/rolex-ex...n-house-tests/
No, COSC standards have not changed.

But. COSC is irrelevant as that is a test done by an independent organization and not Rolex standards. It is Rolex standards that have recently changed from -1/+5 to -2/+2.

If your watch is not running in accordance with YOUR standards, send it in for regulation or find a Dealer with a watchmaker on staff to do it for you.
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I bought a new sub last July .At first it was shocking ,+10 to +12 a day.
I nearly sent it in for regulation but left it to see if it would settle.Im glad I did,it's running at +1 to +2 now,took a couple of months though.
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I bought a new sub last July .At first it was shocking ,+10 to +12 a day.

I nearly sent it in for regulation but left it to see if it would settle.Im glad I did,it's running at +1 to +2 now,took a couple of months though.

Thanks. Good to know, appreciate your help
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I read the same article and also thought the new models would be compliant to the +/- 2 seconds. FWIW my 114060 dated 12/2015 is running +1 second after 6 days using the NIST website and it would bug me if it ran out of COSC spec. But I'd also be hesitant on sending a fairly new watch to be opened to be regulated so quickly, so maybe worth waiting as most people here had luck on tightening over time.
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Great watch, Give it some time and enjoy your purchase.
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No, COSC standards have not changed.

But. COSC is irrelevant as that is a test done by an independent organization and not Rolex standards. It is Rolex standards that have recently changed from -1/+5 to -2/+2.

If your watch is not running in accordance with YOUR standards, send it in for regulation or find a Dealer with a watchmaker on staff to do it for you.
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Don't worry, enjoy it.
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A trusted seller here should take it back and regulate for you. I've been in the same boat and the seller has regulated for me to within COSC.
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A trusted seller here should take it back and regulate for you. I've been in the same boat and the seller has regulated for me to within COSC.
OP's watch is within COSC spec. It is only gaining 4 seconds/day. I'm sure SohAIS is not taking the watch back for this.
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