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Old 12 January 2017, 08:29 PM   #61
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You do know that pretty much all 2012 watches were reserved within 5 hours of release, and countless others are waiting for someone to back out, right? I hate to break it to you, but given how successful this was, you can expect many more releases like this from not just Omega, but many other watch brands. You might as well flip your Seamasters now for one or two Rolexes, and swear off ever buying an Omega to save yourself some more grief down the road.

I do somewhat agree with you that they didn't need to come up with an "anniversary" to justify this watch. I could care less about most "anniversaries" that watches are meant to celebrate, so I just ignore them and judge the watch on its merits.




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Personally, I've lost a little bit of respect for Omega over this watch.

Omega have always been criticised for producing too many 'Special Editions' of the Speedmaster.

I've never previously had a problem with that as I've always felt that they were justified as they were generally to commemorate certain anniversaries of the space missions etc.

This watch however is something quite different.

What is it actually celebrating? The fact that a lot of people subscribe to a website??? WOW!

To me it smacks of 'Cashing in' or 'making a quick buck'

No disrespect to anyone that's ordered one, but to me the watch itself looks cheap - that thin brown strap looks nasty.

The fact that it can only be purchased online also makes it a bit 'Gimmicky' to me.

I'm sorry Omega but Rolex would never do such a thing.

It actually hurts me to write this post as I always previously loved Omega (I own 2 Sea masters) but this has taken the edge off a bit...
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Old 12 January 2017, 10:35 PM   #62
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You do know that pretty much all 2012 watches were reserved within 5 hours of release, and countless others are waiting for someone to back out, right? I hate to break it to you, but given how successful this was, you can expect many more releases like this from not just Omega, but many other watch brands. You might as well flip your Seamasters now for one or two Rolexes, and swear off ever buying an Omega to save yourself some more grief down the road.

I do somewhat agree with you that they didn't need to come up with an "anniversary" to justify this watch. I could care less about most "anniversaries" that watches are meant to celebrate, so I just ignore them and judge the watch on its merits.


Agree.

I don't do #SpeedyTuesday, never have. But that is darn nice looking Speedy and thus I had to get it.

Some Rolex lovers are very conservative...


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Old 13 January 2017, 01:55 AM   #63
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Old 13 January 2017, 02:22 AM   #64
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I'm planning to put mine on a bracelet. It looks damn nice.
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Old 13 January 2017, 05:41 AM   #65
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Old 13 January 2017, 06:16 AM   #66
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No brainer for me.
I think it's a fantastic looking watch that checks all the right boxes in the specs department. Say what you will about LE's, but this one is beautifully done.

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Old 13 January 2017, 06:21 AM   #67
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Personally, I've lost a little bit of respect for Omega over this watch.

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It actually hurts me to write this post as I always previously loved Omega (I own 2 Sea masters) but this has taken the edge off a bit...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.....but there is a lot of firm reasoning behind this specific watch:

1) The history of Speedy Tuesday in the watch enthusiast community is not some small following.....they have comprehensive articles embraced by all Speedmaster fans and has helped to educate/cover many Speedmasters in the complex history of the line up. Any real Speedmaster fan is almost guaranteed to have read a couple of the articles at least one point or another.

2) The changes from a Speedy Pro on this watch are definitely nods to Speedmaster fans and what they clamor for.....subtle font differences, matte case, radial subdials, reverse panda etc.....these are what people been begging for observing the history/evolution of different Speedy models.

3) The Speed Tuesday articles from Fratello is like you say, based on online social media. That's why the distribution/marketing of this piece was specifically targeted as such. Even the timing was based in UK where the article originates.

I do agree with you I'm not a fan of constant limited editions....but I can't deny the latest limited editions have got more things right than wrong on the watches (Apollo 45th Snoopy, CK2998, SM300 Spectre etc) versus the ones in the past. I for one do not care for the aftermarket sale of this because I am a Speedmaster fan and the changes appeal to me and I understand where they pulled them from (makes me want it more). The only fault I can see with this whole ordeal was having no warning prior to release....only the guys @ Fratello and Omega insiders knew about this. None of the boutiques had any idea either.

One thing I do like about this distribution method and I think it could work well for Omega going forward would be the control of pricing deflation on their limited pieces. This method guarantees distribution via boutiques without the grey/ad discounts.

Seeing that you own 2 Seamasters....perhaps the Speedy isn't for you (nor the Speedy Tuesday articles for that matter I guess)......but the watch I think is a rock solid release.
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Old 13 January 2017, 07:39 AM   #68
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One thing I do like about this distribution method and I think it could work well for Omega going forward would be the control of pricing deflation on their limited pieces. This method guarantees distribution via boutiques without the grey/ad discounts.
I'm sure ADs are thrilled. Omega supplies them with a lot of watches that will never sell and then releases this which would actually sell well but doesn't give them access to it.
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Old 13 January 2017, 07:39 AM   #69
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Mostly that it doesn't come with that stupid huge box.
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Old 13 January 2017, 10:10 AM   #70
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion.....but there is a lot of firm reasoning behind this specific watch:

1) The history of Speedy Tuesday in the watch enthusiast community is not some small following.....they have comprehensive articles embraced by all Speedmaster fans and has helped to educate/cover many Speedmasters in the complex history of the line up. Any real Speedmaster fan is almost guaranteed to have read a couple of the articles at least one point or another.

2) The changes from a Speedy Pro on this watch are definitely nods to Speedmaster fans and what they clamor for.....subtle font differences, matte case, radial subdials, reverse panda etc.....these are what people been begging for observing the history/evolution of different Speedy models.

3) The Speed Tuesday articles from Fratello is like you say, based on online social media. That's why the distribution/marketing of this piece was specifically targeted as such. Even the timing was based in UK where the article originates.

I do agree with you I'm not a fan of constant limited editions....but I can't deny the latest limited editions have got more things right than wrong on the watches (Apollo 45th Snoopy, CK2998, SM300 Spectre etc) versus the ones in the past. I for one do not care for the aftermarket sale of this because I am a Speedmaster fan and the changes appeal to me and I understand where they pulled them from (makes me want it more). The only fault I can see with this whole ordeal was having no warning prior to release....only the guys @ Fratello and Omega insiders knew about this. None of the boutiques had any idea either.

One thing I do like about this distribution method and I think it could work well for Omega going forward would be the control of pricing deflation on their limited pieces. This method guarantees distribution via boutiques without the grey/ad discounts.

Seeing that you own 2 Seamasters....perhaps the Speedy isn't for you (nor the Speedy Tuesday articles for that matter I guess)......but the watch I think is a rock solid release.
I appreciate all the reasons you've described for Omega to think it a 'valid reason' to produce yet another LE Speedmaster but I just think in this instance they've somewhat dropped the ball.

They are supposed to be a luxury brand, but to me at least this whole 'internet only' sales idea has made it look cheap.

Part of the buying 'experience' of going to an AD and actually trying on the watch and seeing how it wears on the wrist and feeling the quality etc is totally gone. It seems very sterile.

Omega need to decide where they are going with this. They have spent the last 40 odd years dining out on the NASA connection and making sure everyone knows their watch was the first to be worn on the Moon and every LE version since has been space related.

This however is a total departure from that...what next, are they going to change the Speedmaster nickname from Moonwatch to Internetwatch?

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Old 13 January 2017, 10:36 AM   #71
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I appreciate all the reasons you've described for Omega to think it a 'valid reason' to produce yet another LE Speedmaster but I just think in this instance they've somewhat dropped the ball.

They are supposed to be a luxury brand, but to me at least this whole 'internet only' sales idea has made it look cheap.

Part of the buying 'experience' of going to an AD and actually trying on the watch and seeing how it wears on the wrist and feeling the quality etc is totally gone. It seems very sterile.

Omega need to decide where they are going with this. They have spent the last 40 odd years dining out on the NASA connection and making sure everyone knows their watch was the first to be worn on the Moon and every LE version since has been space related.

This however is a total departure from that...what next, are they going to change the Speedmaster nickname from Moonwatch to Internetwatch?

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You seem to have missed the boat on this one.

A) The internet only distribution was a smart move and I fully expect the other top line brands to follow. It is a much more transparent and fair way of allotting limited edition pieces.

B) The AD is a dying, or at least shrinking business. Very coveted models are being distributed by brand-boutiques only so the watch maker can control price, margins, buying experience, etc. Meanwhile ADs are forced to distribute the mass-produced stuff while margins are narrowing and rents are going up.

C) Internet doesn't have to "sterile", it can also be about social/community. This is what this edition celebrate - the #SpeedyTuesday movement. If you are not part of that community, don't use Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, etc. Then this watch is not for you.

D) I'd be the first one to agree with you that Omega has way too many limited edition watches, especially when it comes to the Speedmaster series, but this particular one I really like, and I think it was a very smart move. I think a lot of the other brands are taking notice.
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Old 13 January 2017, 10:50 AM   #72
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IMO opinion it's another bad attempt at creating false scarcity and hype (read Daytona-C, limited edition speedmasters, PP nautilus, etc.)

I would have wanted one, I think it looks cool. But, oh, there are not available anymore? Sorry Omega, some other, more decent brand will get my hard earned money.

The Swiss watch industry seems not to notice or care the crisis they are in. They should start treating their customers better.


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Old 13 January 2017, 10:51 AM   #73
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You seem to have missed the boat on this one.

A) The internet only distribution was a smart move and I fully expect the other top line brands to follow. It is a much more transparent and fair way of allotting limited edition pieces.

B) The AD is a dying, or at least shrinking business. Very coveted models are being distributed by brand-boutiques only so the watch maker can control price, margins, buying experience, etc. Meanwhile ADs are forced to distribute the mass-produced stuff while margins are narrowing and rents are going up.

C) Internet doesn't have to "sterile", it can also be about social/community. This is what this edition celebrate - the #SpeedyTuesday movement. If you are not part of that community, don't use Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, etc. Then this watch is not for you.

D) I'd be the first one to agree with you that Omega has way too many limited edition watches, especially when it comes to the Speedmaster series, but this particular one I really like, and I think it was a very smart move. I think a lot of the other brands are taking notice.
I'll be convinced when Patek Philippe release an internet only LE...

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Old 13 January 2017, 10:51 AM   #74
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I really like it. How much will they be?
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Old 13 January 2017, 11:04 AM   #75
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I really like it. How much will they be?
$6500 is the msrp.
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Old 13 January 2017, 11:43 AM   #76
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Old 13 January 2017, 11:50 AM   #77
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I would love one! Unfortunately, it is all spoken for.
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I have #0566, but the price is steep and I'm seriously bummed that it doesn't come with a bracelet. I can be convinced to part ways with it, if anyone's interested.
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Old 13 January 2017, 04:24 PM   #79
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IMO opinion it's another bad attempt at creating false scarcity...
At just over 2000 pieces, I'd say the scarcity is real.
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Old 13 January 2017, 06:16 PM   #80
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IMO opinion it's another bad attempt at creating false scarcity and hype (read Daytona-C, limited edition speedmasters, PP nautilus, etc.)

I would have wanted one, I think it looks cool. But, oh, there are not available anymore? Sorry Omega, some other, more decent brand will get my hard earned money.

The Swiss watch industry seems not to notice or care the crisis they are in. They should start treating their customers better.


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No offense but what is the point of making a limited edition watch, if at one point they would not be available anymore? Daytona-C and PP Nautilus watches are not limited. You just need some patience and money to reach them.
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I for one doesnt mind the many limited editions. There is the reason for limited quantity, in which the chances of me sitting right next to someone owning the same watch is almost nil. Same cannot be said with popular models such as a sub or daytona. Just the other day, i was in a gathering. 3 dudes wear the same daytona. Yikes.
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Old 14 January 2017, 08:27 AM   #83
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Eh I tried for a half hour and no luck. Only 1 for my AD so far but they are hopeful for a second since they will be attending baselworld. Fingers crossed for me.
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How was your AD able to get one? As far as I know they would've needed to go through the same reservation system as a regular customer and pay the same price... are they already planning on selling it for above the price MSRP?
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How was your AD able to get one? As far as I know they would've needed to go through the same reservation system as a regular customer and pay the same price... are they already planning on selling it for above the price MSRP?
Your understanding is correct. I have a terrific relationship with 2 boutiques local to me that I frequent/buy watches/jewelry from.....this release is confirmed by them to be online only in reservation.....none of the employees (except a couple managers that got a hint but didn't know exactly) knew anything about this thing prior to release. Doesn't matter if you have VIP status @ the boutiques as of now in terms of obtaining one without reservation online. Best hope @ this point is to join the waiting list and see the ones pop up that don't get paid when the time comes this summer.
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Your understanding is correct. I have a terrific relationship with 2 boutiques local to me that I frequent/buy watches/jewelry from.....this release is confirmed by them to be online only in reservation.....none of the employees (except a couple managers that got a hint but didn't know exactly) knew anything about this thing prior to release. Doesn't matter if you have VIP status @ the boutiques as of now in terms of obtaining one without reservation online. Best hope @ this point is to join the waiting list and see the ones pop up that don't get paid when the time comes this summer.
Appreciate the response. I was one of the few West Coasters that was able to reserve one on day one of the reservation period. Pretty stoked on that.

I'm more or less curious to see how Omega would react if an AD reserved one and then flipped it to a customer above a particular amount. At the point they would become "the grey market" which always a touchy point amongst AD and OBs. I presume they don't care but from a PR perspective, may not look so good?
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i woke up tuesday morning and though... nahhh... then changed my mind and by the time i did, they were all spoken for. now i'm on a waiting list.

if i get one, great. if not, i have several other speedies that will suffice for the moment.
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Not a big fan of most Omega LEs and to be perfectly honest, the idea of a LE based on a social media trend is incredibly gimmicky, but.... BUT!!... I really like the look of this watch. Very cool vintage vibe.
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Old 15 January 2017, 10:45 AM   #88
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It looks like now you can put yourself on a waitlist for the watch, which I did. I'm hoping that those who've reserved already will be asked to either put a signifiant deposit or pay in full for their watch if they really want one. This seems like it would thin out the reservations a bit and hopefully give those who really want one a shot at it, as I suspect there's pretty large percentage of those who reserved the watch strictly to flip for a profit. Forcing buyers to pay in full up-front might cause some of the speculators to bail out.
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Hello. I recently acquired a CK 2998. Agreed with the all LE stuff!

But i just love the look of #speedytuesday LE. So I am no.1651 :-)
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