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Old 4 December 2021, 09:47 AM   #1
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Trade multiple Rolex watches for Patek 5167A-001?

Like many, I have been eyeing a 5167A-001 Aquanaut. However, it won't happen through an AD. The thought of paying secondary prices is a bit much, but I am considering consolidating my collection to fund one. You never know what the market will bring, but if the trend continues, I believe the Aquanaut will be permanently out of reach for me, much like the Nautilus is now. I am in scrubs or casual wear 99% of the time and I think the watch would get plenty of use.

My question is this, would you sell a 14060m submariner 2-liner, 16520 Daytona (White dial - Zenith movement), and a 216570 Explorer ii Polar to mostly fund the purchase?

Current collection also includes a YM42, Explorer (39mm), Grand Seiko Skyflake, JLC Reverso Duoface, Omega SMP 300M, and Pepsi on Jubilee. I'm thrilled with my current collection. However, in same breath, I'd like to consolidate a bit.

Thanks in advance for the pros and cons.
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Old 4 December 2021, 09:58 AM   #2
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Trade multiple Rolex watches for Patek 5167A-001?

Personally, I’d hate to part with the Sub. How can you not have a black dial sub in the collection? Having said that, I’m not a big PP fan. As for consolidating, I probably have over 50 watches in my own collection, though mostly mid tier pieces.


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Old 4 December 2021, 10:03 AM   #3
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I would never ever sell a 14060M or a 16520 Zenith Daytona. Just my opinion.
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Old 4 December 2021, 10:29 AM   #4
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First, oh heck no and i had the PP.

This type of trade has been discussed a few times, I think most don't do it. If you do decide on the PP anyway and take the loss, make sure it is less than three years old or has been factory serviced by PP within the past three years. If it's a really old model, you might not be able to easily get a bracelet.

Anywho, imho I would never ever do that trade knowing......
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Old 4 December 2021, 10:40 AM   #5
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First, oh heck no and i had the PP.

This type of trade has been discussed a few times, I think most don't do it. If you do decide on the PP anyway and take the loss, make sure it is less than three years old or has been factory serviced by PP within the past three years. If it's a really old model, you might not be able to easily get a bracelet.

Anywho, imho I would never ever do that trade knowing......
Thanks for the advice. Helpful coming from someone who has owned an aquanaut.
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Old 4 December 2021, 11:34 AM   #6
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I’ve owned the 5167 and it was my go to watch for a good 2-3 years.

At current market price it’s hard to recommend this trade face value. That said, I understand how you can decide you want something and from there it’s just math.

If the zenith is unpolished or close to it try and hold that one. Sell others.
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Old 4 December 2021, 12:04 PM   #7
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Not a chance at current prices. I've been (or maybe not) on the list for a 5167 for a couple of years now, and would happily buy at retail, but it's one of those watches that I think will tank if the general watch market drops. It's like you couldn't get a 5711 so you got this instead, so the keeper factor could be pretty volatile.

Kind of like if the bottom falls out of the market, DD's, AK's, Milgauss, Exp etc will be the first to suffer the greatest loss.

Having said that, if you really want it and the numbers work out in your favor, go for it.
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Old 4 December 2021, 12:11 PM   #8
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Yes I would. I will only keep the pepsi and the rest of the Rolex can go to fund whatever I want.
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Old 4 December 2021, 12:18 PM   #9
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I wouldn’t do it.
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Old 4 December 2021, 12:18 PM   #10
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Absolutely not. People say all the time that the Daytona isn’t a $40k watch. I have one and, while I love it, would completely agree. But at least to me, the Daytona is much more of a $40k watch than the Aquanaut is a $70k watch. I mean, that price is just laughable to me. (In fact, I’d take the Daytona straight up over the Aquanaut, but obviously that’s not the question. But I certainly wouldn’t trade yours for the 5167.)
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Old 4 December 2021, 12:26 PM   #11
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Old 4 December 2021, 12:26 PM   #12
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I would not simply because I value the watches you are willing to trade over what you want to keep. I understand your desire to consolidate but I would trade else where.
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Old 4 December 2021, 12:40 PM   #13
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Do what makes you happy.
You have a large collection, some of the watches may get no wrist time, so why keep them if you cannot enjoy them. One of the benefits of this forum is the FS section. When we get sick of a piece we can sell it and move on. On the other hand, buying the Aquanaut in the grey market is really a stretch, at least for me. Hard call either way.
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Old 4 December 2021, 12:44 PM   #14
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I tend to side with op. I'm in a position myself where I'm searching for a 'one ring to rule them all'. About to trade a Batgirl and Explorer for a VC 4500v.

Yes he's trading multiple pieces but he's leveling up and getting such a versatile watch.

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Old 4 December 2021, 01:15 PM   #15
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No way, I wouldn’t.
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Old 4 December 2021, 01:38 PM   #16
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I tend to side with op. I'm in a position myself where I'm searching for a 'one ring to rule them all'. About to trade a Batgirl and Explorer for a VC 4500v.

Yes he's trading multiple pieces but he's leveling up and getting such a versatile watch.

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Good luck. I’ve been playing that game for the better part of 10 years lol

If I can quote Sean Carter “Ain’t nothing changed but the numbers on the range”
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Old 4 December 2021, 01:51 PM   #17
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Sell them ALL. Buy your grail PP and a Timex & call it a day.
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Old 4 December 2021, 02:02 PM   #18
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No. I would try to get down to Sub, Daytona and maybe add the PP if you want. Just bought a 5167 and while it’s ok, it’s very delicate and sometimes the horizontal lines on the dial don’t seem level to me. But like poster said above, get the new style with integrated strap.
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Old 4 December 2021, 02:46 PM   #19
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I already gave my opinion privately, but I will repeat it publicly. The Patek 5167A-001 was an entry level timepiece until the hype began. It will return to that status soon when the hype subsides. It’s the lowest level of a watch family that admittedly has some unbelievably special pieces of which the aquanaut will always be the red headed stepchild. Conversely, The zenith Daytona is an iconic watch with true history. The sub and the pepsi are arguably the most famous wristwatches on planet earth. I think that you’ll seriously regret this trade after the novelty quickly erodes.
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No, I would not. I don’t get the hype on the Aquanaut, it’s a weird looking watch imho.
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Old 4 December 2021, 02:59 PM   #21
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I already gave my opinion privately, but I will repeat it publicly. The Patek 5167A-001 was an entry level timepiece until the hype began. It will return to that status soon when the hype subsides. It’s the lowest level of a watch family that admittedly has some unbelievably special pieces of which the aquanaut will always be the red headed stepchild. Conversely, The zenith Daytona is an iconic watch with true history. The sub and the pepsi are arguably the most famous wristwatches on planet earth. I think that you’ll seriously regret this trade after the novelty quickly erodes.
Well, I have asked for advice, a handful of times, and I appreciate and value these responses. Thank you all for contributing - helps to settle it in my mind. While I may still try to hunt down an Aquanaut, it won't be via my Daytona or Sub.
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No, I would not. 5167 is just an entry level Patek and not worth it
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Yes I would. I will only keep the pepsi and the rest of the Rolex can go to fund whatever I want.
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I am surprised someone is willing to do that trade though?
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Old 4 December 2021, 03:15 PM   #24
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I am surprised someone is willing to do that trade though?
Would require cash on top...
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Old 4 December 2021, 03:42 PM   #25
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I’d keep the Pepsi and Daytona sell the rest and get that Patek.
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Old 4 December 2021, 04:45 PM   #28
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For all of y'all that keep arguing about the value when the 'market will settle' I'm sorry but you really remind me of my real estate clients that have been telling me for the last four years how the prices will drop. Yes I've lived 2008 and was an active realtor.

Point is we're trying to answer a question that's never been answered. What actually happens when luxury goods that are affordable by middle class thin on the ground.

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Ane perhaps OP as many of us may have secretly asked ourselves is wondering if Rolex is at the top market price and is it time to sell. I would argue that yes it is.

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Well, I have asked for advice, a handful of times, and I appreciate and value these responses. Thank you all for contributing - helps to settle it in my mind. While I may still try to hunt down an Aquanaut, it won't be via my Daytona or Sub.
Definitely the right choice, you have some incredible pieces there and given the extra heat in the market currently, financially putting all your eggs in one basket could be a mistake when the market cools.

Plus comparatively the Aquanaut is a bit meh compared to the Rolex pieces you were thinking of trading
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